Well I wish Chaplin had the same agent.
How many clubs with genuine ambition sell their best player without first securing an adequate replacement.
It’s simple really, you have to play hard ball and tell Mcnulty he’s not leaving until we’ve signed another striker.
Robins bleating on about agents is pathetic, and just deflecting the blame off himself. And all the fans just suck it up.
I didn’t say we should keep him, if you actually read my post, I very clearly stated that you tell him he’s not leaving UNTIL a replacement has been found.So you want to keep an unhappy sulking player? Risk disrupting team spirit and forcing a player in to the team? He wasnt bleating he was stating a fact. If it wasnt for the agent he wouldnt have had his head turned so much. We were offered good money for a player who wanted to leave so why keep him and risk having an unhappy player and no buyer?
I didn’t say we should keep him, if you actually read my post, I very clearly stated that you tell him he’s not leaving UNTIL a replacement has been found.
It would appear that Chaplin has been told as much, ironically.
So you say we shouldn't keep him but tell him he is staying when he doesn't want to.., logic right there! We got a very good offer for an unhappy player. Correct decision contrary to your apparent tantrum about itI didn’t say we should keep him, if you actually read my post, I very clearly stated that you tell him he’s not leaving UNTIL a replacement has been found.
It would appear that Chaplin has been told as much, ironically.
The OP obviously thinks players play for noughtIn terms of splashing money about. I think offering more than other League One teams for Ogogo on a 3 year deal is better than Henderson, Ramage and Hunt on a 6 month deal.
It isn't just about transfer fees, a lot of it is about offering the better players a decent deal to come here.
Not really NickWould you rather McNulty went towards the end of the window after spending pre season with us or that he went as soon as possible rather than potentially disrupting the others? It then gives us a month to get a replacement. (rather than a couple of days or hours).
It's not really pathetic, it's highlighting just how much power and sway agents have nowadays.
I would far rather he stayed until a replacement was found, However long that took, Surely that’s got to be better than potentially starting the season without an experienced and proven striker.Would you rather McNulty went towards the end of the window after spending pre season with us or that he went as soon as possible rather than potentially disrupting the others? It then gives us a month to get a replacement. (rather than a couple of days or hours).
It's not really pathetic, it's highlighting just how much power and sway agents have nowadays.
I wouldn't say we're "scrambling around" trying to find a replacement AT ALL. We're in talks with Pompey over Chaplin. And besides, the majority of the squad AND the manager are in Spain. Can you honestly say you were expecting us to make any signings while we were over there? Talking nonsense if you think we would of.Can someone tell me why we sold Marc Mcnulty without having a replacement in position ready to sign? We did not want to sell the player so therefore the deal should have been done at our speed. It's not as though it was the eve of the season and Reading needed him straight away .Now we are scrambling around getting a goal scorer in.Not very professional.
I prefer him not turning everyone else’s heads better to let him leave and then robins can change targetsI would far rather he stayed until a replacement was found, However long that took, Surely that’s got to be better than potentially starting the season without an experienced and proven striker.
We can accept he wants to leave, and if that’s the case we move on, but we should conduct the buisiness on our terms, not his.
Portsmouth have shown how it should be done.
Window closes before the season starts for permanent signings. Only loans up til the end of August.I wouldn't say we're "scrambling around" trying to find a replacement AT ALL. We're in talks with Pompey over Chaplin. And besides, the majority of the squad AND the manager are in Spain. Can you honestly say you were expecting us to make any signings while we were over there? Talking nonsense if you think we would of.
I'm not worried yet, 3 weeks til the 1st game yet and 7 til the window closes. No problems. Robins has it in hand.
Please re read my previous post.So you want to keep an unhappy sulking player? Risk disrupting team spirit and forcing a player in to the team? He wasnt bleating he was stating a fact. If it wasnt for the agent he wouldnt have had his head turned so much. We were offered good money for a player who wanted to leave so why keep him and risk having an unhappy player and no buyer?
And?? Like I said, still have 7 weeks to replace McNulty. What's the worry?Window closes before the season starts for permanent signings. Only loans up til the end of August.
I did and it didn't makes sense. You want to keep a player who is clearly unhappy yet haven't factored in that any buyers may disappear. We may then buy a replacement and have him still on our books and possibly spending money we cant then recoup. Seems very strange logic.Please re read my previous post.
There was a big difference then £200,000 came in them £200,000 was spent to bring players in ,now if £200,000 comes in your lucky to see half spent on replacements.
How 7 weeks? You want us to replace him with a loan only??And?? Like I said, still have 7 weeks to replace McNulty. What's the worry?
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Why not?? If he's a good enough player then why spend money on somebody that might not be?!?! I'd prefer to secure a player on a 2 or 3 year deal but if we were offered an Adam Armstrong esque player on loan for the season then what's the problem??How 7 weeks? You want us to replace him with a loan only??
Very unlikely though. For every Armstrong there is an Andre Wright or Folivi. The meltdown on here would be sizable if we don't replace him with a permanent signing.Why not?? If he's a good enough player then why spend money on somebody that might not be?!?! I'd prefer to secure a player on a 2 or 3 year deal but if we were offered an Adam Armstrong esque player on loan for the season then what's the problem??
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Well I wish Chaplin had the same agent.
How many clubs with genuine ambition sell their best player without first securing an adequate replacement.
It’s simple really, you have to play hard ball and tell Mcnulty he’s not leaving until we’ve signed another striker.
Robins bleating on about agents is pathetic, and just deflecting the blame off himself. And all the fans just suck it up.
Yep absolutely bang onIf I were the manager and I knew a player was wanting out, the last thing I would want is him around pre-season training unsettling others, who would be full of feelgood factor following promotion.
For the love of god, how thick are you?I did and it didn't makes sense. You want to keep a player who is clearly unhappy yet haven't factored in that any buyers may disappear. We may then buy a replacement and have him still on our books and possibly spending money we cant then recoup. Seems very strange logic.
You think we only sign DUDS on loan?? So we loan a dud and pay a %of his wages or we sign a dud on a 3 year deal, pay his signing on fee, a fee to buy him AND his full wages for 3 years.Very unlikely though. For every Armstrong there is an Andre Wright or Folivi. The meltdown on here would be sizable if we don't replace him with a permanent signing.
For the love of god, how thick are you?
I’ll spell it out just for you Garry,
I’ve never once suggested we keep Mcnulty, or any other player who expresses a wish to leave. If they want to go, they go. Simple.
(Are you still with me?)
What I did say was that no player as vital as our top scorer, should be allowed to leave UNTIL I repeat, UNTIL and adequate replacement has been found.
(Hint, the clue is in the word UNTIL)
Which is exactly what Portsmouth have said to Chaplin and his agent.
While here at city, he could go as soon as Reading hit a certain fee, which meant that money was Far more important than the impact on the team.
IMHO, (You are of course at liberty to disagree, but please don’t misquote me in future)
You don’t have to keep the player around the first team though, you have other options, such as leaving him behind from tour (like Stokes) sending him to train with the academy or at the memorial park like mcsheffrey etc did. (Just an example, that one)If I were the manager and I knew a player was wanting out, the last thing I would want is him around pre-season training unsettling others, who would be full of feelgood factor following promotion.
Whatever they have said, they certainly appear to be holding all the cards.Is that what they have said to Chaplin and his agent then?
Seems like Portsmouth keep moving the goalposts to me and just trying to get more money themselves....
Whatever they have said, they certainly appear to be holding all the cards.
I’m getting a bit pissed off with Portsmouth, but I can’t blame them for holding out for the best deal for them. And it looks like they want another striker in before letting Chaplin go ...... who would of thought?
Oh well. Nothing but good wishes for Portsmouth after what they’ve been through but it’s possible for us to be right in how we sold McNulty and for them to be right in holding on to Chaplin.Whatever they have said, they certainly appear to be holding all the cards.
I’m getting a bit pissed off with Portsmouth, but I can’t blame them for holding out for the best deal for them. And it looks like they want another striker in before letting Chaplin go ...... who would of thought?
No! No! No! We’re utter bastards and Pompey are run like a well oiled machine!Oh well. Nothing but good wishes for Portsmouth after what they’ve been through but it’s possible for us to be right in how we sold McNulty and for them to be right in holding on to Chaplin.
Whatever they have said, they certainly appear to be holding all the cards.
I’m getting a bit pissed off with Portsmouth, but I can’t blame them for holding out for the best deal for them. And it looks like they want another striker in before letting Chaplin go ...... who would of thought?
The difference is Chaplin is not a first team regular in their team. They know we have some money and therefore will try to inflate the price. It’s nothing to do with a replacement it’s cashing in
If the money we received for McNulty is true we have maximised revenue well. Imagine if we’d have been the club who gave him away to be cashed in 12 months later for over a million. You’d be then accusing sisu of selling on the cheap.
McNulty and his agent have all the cards as he was integral to the team. Chaplin isn’t so he is now a pawn in Portsmouth’s game.
Another who’s bang onThe difference is Chaplin is not a first team regular in their team. They know we have some money and therefore will try to inflate the price. It’s nothing to do with a replacement it’s cashing in
If the money we received for McNulty is true we have maximised revenue well. Imagine if we’d have been the club who gave him away to be cashed in 12 months later for over a million. You’d be then accusing sisu of selling on the cheap.
McNulty and his agent have all the cards as he was integral to the team. Chaplin isn’t so he is now a pawn in Portsmouth’s game.
Can someone tell me why we sold Marc Mcnulty without having a replacement in position ready to sign? We did not want to sell the player so therefore the deal should have been done at our speed. It's not as though it was the eve of the season and Reading needed him straight away .Now we are scrambling around getting a goal scorer in.Not very professional.
Can someone tell me why we sold Marc Mcnulty without having a replacement in position ready to sign? We did not want to sell the player so therefore the deal should have been done at our speed. It's not as though it was the eve of the season and Reading needed him straight away .Now we are scrambling around getting a goal scorer in.Not very professional.
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