Will CCFC vanish ? (1 Viewer)

Voice_of_Reason · Dec 23, 2013

Is it possible that CCFC will be liquidated and as such vanish from League Football under SISU's "stewardship" ?

cochese · Dec 23, 2013

Only if the supporters give up on the club

jimmyhillsfanclub · Dec 23, 2013

Err...dunno.

but you could read some of the millions of other dull-as-fuck threads that have already discussed this hypothesis to death already.

No offence....happy xmas.

theferret · Dec 23, 2013

I think there is a very good chance of that. The fans won't support the club at Sixfields, the club steadfastly refuse to return without freehold ownership, ACL/CCC will not sell to SISU (freehold or leasehold in my opinion). It's a game of brinkmanship that will not end well because nobody seems prepared to give an inch. We're hurtling head first towards extinction, and some people would welcome that.

mrtrench · Dec 23, 2013

What a silly question. Is it possible? Yes.

Is it possible that Liverpool and Man U will merge? Yes

Is it possible that Nick Clegg will be the next Prime Minister? Yes...

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 23, 2013

I think it's absolutely possible.

John_Silletts_Nose · Dec 23, 2013

Anything is possible but the probability is virtually zero.

Bill Glazier · Dec 23, 2013

It's the time of year for hope. Is Joy a Christian by the way? Many tea party Americans are, though we don't even know this much about her. Maybe, like Scrooge, she'll find some compassion.

Happy Christmas Joy and to everyone else.

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 23, 2013

She is a Christian. Interested to read virtually no chance. Why do you think that?

italiahorse · Dec 23, 2013

It may happen, but it is up to us to support what is left and get us back where we belong.
Just got to wait for Sisu to leave or come to the party.
PUSB

Happy Xmas

DazzleTommyDazzle · Dec 23, 2013

cochese said:
Only if the supporters give up on the club

Well put.

Wouldn't want any blame going against those nice chaps (and the nice chapess) from SISU.

chiefdave · Dec 23, 2013

If liquidating CCFC somehow gives SISU the best return then I don't think they'd think twice about doing it. Our hope has to be that CCFC is worth more to them as a going concern, or at least what's left of one, that through being liquidated.

ajsccfc · Dec 23, 2013

It hasn't happened already? But there have been so many RIP CCFC posts here.

Monkeyface · Dec 23, 2013

A football club is more than whoever holds the worthless Golden share or it's current group of players, its the fans and the community. So whatever happens, if there's a group of fans willing to go there will be a club.

shmmeee · Dec 23, 2013

Well we've been liquidated once and got away with it...

stupot07 · Dec 23, 2013

shmmeee said:
Well we've been liquidated once and got away with it...

Although it wasn't that simple with bits of the football club straddling 2 companies. If everything was in 1 company we'd have been thrown at the league.

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shmmeee · Dec 23, 2013

stupot07 said:
Although it wasn't that simple with bits of the football club straddling 2 companies. If everything was in 1 company we'd have been thrown at the league.

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Do you think?

Where do you think we'd end up?

skybluealan · Dec 23, 2013

Words from "Sir Bobby Robson" says it all

What is a club in any case?
Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it.
It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes.
It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city.
It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love."

italiahorse · Dec 23, 2013

ajsccfc said:
It hasn't happened already? But there have been so many RIP CCFC posts here.

We are on life support at the moment, could go either way.

RFC · Dec 23, 2013

cochese said:
Only if the supporters give up on the club

Precisely!

stupot07 · Dec 23, 2013

shmmeee said:
Do you think?

Where do you think we'd end up?

I think we'll end up back at the Ricoh but with a long leasehold.

Edit: just realised I'd misinterpreted your question. I think if we were liquidated (the whole club) then we'd be expelled out of the football league and probably have to start in the league below the conference at best.

It's a difficult one to judge as no league clubs have been liquidated since the Admin rules changed, the likes of Chester and Darlington were already in the conference when they were dissolved and not under the FL jurisdiction.

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shmmeee · Dec 23, 2013

stupot07 said:
I think we'll end up back at the Ricoh but with a long leasehold.

Edit: just realised I'd misinterpreted your question. I think if we were liquidated (the whole club) then we'd be expelled out of the football league and probably have to start in the league below the conference at best.

It's a difficult one to judge as no league clubs have been liquidated since the Admin rules changed, the likes of Chester and Darlington were already in the conference when they were dissolved and not under the FL jurisdiction.

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I think you might be right, and personally I'd take that for a fresh start, certainly over a Phoenix Club.

But like you say, it hasn't really happened to a club our size, in our circumstances, before. I wouldn't be surprised if either some deal similar to when Otium took over is arranged with a new owner, or we end up a league or two down with a points deduction.

Edit: I'd take the Ricoh situation as a win as well.

covkid53 · Dec 23, 2013

SISU and MR Clarke 100% to blame if it happens, and it could.

SkyBlueSid · Dec 23, 2013

cochese said:
Only if the supporters give up on the club

Sadly, I think a large proportion already have. Once you are out of the habit of going to the match, it is very difficult to get back into it. And it will never get better while we are playing outside the city.

So I can only conclude that the most likely outcome in the next 3 years or so is the club ceasing to exist. The fans will not go to Northampton, the club will not return to the Ricoh, and I believe the new stadium to be pie-in-the-sky. So what other alternative is there to liquidation?

I just hope I'm wrong!

Norman Binns · Dec 23, 2013

cochese said:
Only if the supporters give up on the club

RFC said:
Precisely!

...and why would supporters give or are giving up and who has it in their power to prevent this?

ajsccfc · Dec 23, 2013

italiahorse said:
We are on life support at the moment, could go either way.

Behave yourself.

bigfatronssba · Dec 23, 2013

If you were doing odds on next league club to vanish I imagine we would be top.

jesus-wept · Dec 23, 2013

covkid53 said:
SISU and MR Clarke 100% to blame if it happens, and it could.

I am glad you mentioned Mr Clarke who was in tandem with the likes of O nye, Dulieu, Brody, Clouting, Fisher to name a few A so called CCFC die-hard he must know the sisu master plan, seemed to jump ship just before this ground share rubbish started.

skybluetony176 · Dec 23, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
If you were doing odds on next league club to vanish I imagine we would be top.

aint that the sad truth.

cochese · Dec 23, 2013

Norman Binns said:
...and why would supporters give or are giving up and who has it in their power to prevent this?

Supporters will still be there long after SISU are gone. Not supporting a club because you don't like the owners just sounds silly, regardless of what they have done because eventually the owners of the club WILL change. If you don't go to home games then go to away games. Go stand on the hill. Keep pressuring SISU and the council to find a deal that suits both parties to return to the Ricoh. Write to Tim Fisher, write to Ann Lucas, sign petitions, march from the old Highfield road to the City. If the club really means that much to the fans then they will find a way to support them in which ever way they can. If the best people can do is do nothing and stay away then were you really that passionate about the club in the first place?

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 23, 2013

VOR- I wrote this on another thread only yesterday, apologies for duplication. There are two probable outcomes.
SISU get the stadium freehold or the club are liquidated. Until the full JR review think we'll just have to make do as fans with scraps from the table.
JR verdict will lead to a conclusion based on above. If SISU lose I suspect they will take the ball home...wherever that it is these days?

Desperate times.

martcov · Dec 23, 2013

Bill Glazier said:
It's the time of year for hope. Is Joy a Christian by the way? Many tea party Americans are, though we don't even know this much about her. Maybe, like Scrooge, she'll find some compassion.

Happy Christmas Joy and to everyone else.

She is a devout Christian, and loves her family. Great. Doesn't give a toss about CCFC apart from it's monetary value though. Last year as things were looking brighter ( another false dawn ) we got a Christmas message if I recall correctly.

Looking forward to this year's message.

I don't like people who tell us they are religious, as Joy did in her interview, because religion is a good cloak to hide beind and implies - to some people, e.g. American Christians -, that you have better morals than non-religious people. I don't go for that and prefer to judge people like Joy on her actions rather than her words.

Astute · Dec 23, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
If you were doing odds on next league club to vanish I imagine we would be top.

I would put us second to Portsmouth. They have had a bigger and swifter fall than us. And we have seen how much help they got from the FA and FL.

Bill Glazier · Dec 23, 2013

Joy, again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.

theferret · Dec 23, 2013

martcov said:
I don't like people who tell us they are religious, as Joy did in her interview, because religion is a good cloak to hide beind and implies - to some people, e.g. American Christians -, that you have better morals than non-religious people. I don't go for that and prefer to judge people like Joy on her actions rather than her words.

Agree with that, but the same can be said of non-religious people too. There are many who consider themselves morally superior simply by virtue of which political party they vote for. You only have to look at some of the pond-life writing for the Guardian; people who are never shy to use their political ideology to mask the fact that, in reality, they are detestable shits.

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