Will the next two games (Luton and Birmingham away) go ahead? (1 Viewer)

SkyBlueGuy · Sep 12, 2022

Just saw the news that Arsenals midweek game has been canceled. Not as a mark of respect, but because of policing demands.

The article I was reading in the Guardian suggested that police forces around the country will be sending officers to London to support arrangements for this/ next week. The assertion is that the larger forces elsewhere around the country will be depleted as a result. They suggested Manchester games may be affected.

Really hope they go ahead as the fixture congestion is already looking a killer!

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

Well, after Derby last season, plod have a ready made excuse.

Don't think we will be postponed, but they can quote that twat in the grey tracksuit as a reason.

Nick · Sep 12, 2022

Don't football teams pay the police?

David O'Day · Sep 12, 2022

luton game should go ahead

blues not to sure as wmp like to boost their ot by having far too many dibble there than needed

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

SkyBlueGuy said:
Just saw the news that Arsenals midweek game has been canceled. Not as a mark of respect, but because of policing demands.

The article I was reading in the Gaurdian suggested that police forces around the country will be sending officers to London to support arrangements for this/ next week. The assertion is that the larger forces elsewhere around the country will be depleted as a result. They suggested Manchester games may be affected.

Really hope they go ahead as the fixture congestion is already looking a killer!

One extra internet point for that beauty.

Only just noticed it.

alexccfc99 · Sep 12, 2022

Luton yes, I’d be amazed if Blues goes ahead though

AOM · Sep 12, 2022

Fergusons_Beard · Sep 12, 2022

Yes.

end of thread.

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Deleted member 2477 · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
One extra internet point for that beauty.

Only just noticed it.

Your first mistake is reading the Guardian.
wmp are supplying officers the London on mutual aid and cancelling rest days. They will be depleted but perhaps if our idiots behaved then it wouldnt be an issue. Dont blame the police, blame our pricks

Johhny Blue · Sep 12, 2022

marcusp said:
Your first mistake is reading the Guardian.
wmp are supplying officers the London on mutual aid and cancelling rest days. They will be depleted but perhaps if our idiots behaved then it wouldnt be an issue. Dont blame the police, blame our pricks

You do what you want but I refuse to blame my prick

SkyblueDad · Sep 12, 2022

Think Luton will but I’d put Blues at 50/50 down to decision from West Midlands police.
I doubt any London fixture will.
Just heard Brentford v Arsenal is going ahead but with an earlier kick-off

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

marcusp said:
Your first mistake is reading the Guardian.
wmp are supplying officers the London on mutual aid and cancelling rest days. They will be depleted but perhaps if our idiots behaved then it wouldnt be an issue. Dont blame the police, blame our pricks

Where should I get my news?

I source the BBC for relative objectivity.

The Gruaniad because it ally's with my general worldview.

The Daily Mail so I can see what the enemy is thinking.

The Sun for Dear Deidre.

SBT for LOL's

Where else would you suggest?

Skyblueweeman · Sep 12, 2022

The club are liaising with WMP and are waiting on them to come back.

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
The Gruaniad because it ally's with my general worldview.

Does your world view include drinking a lot before typing ?

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Does your world view include drinking a lot before typing ?

clint van damme · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
Where should I get my news?

I source the BBC for relative objectivity.

The Gruaniad because it ally's with my general worldview.

The Daily Mail so I can see what the enemy is thinking.

The Sun for Dear Deidre.

SBT for LOL's

Where else would you suggest?

You know he's going to recomend Breibart!

Hutch11 · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
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That told you Harry

Sick Boy · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
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In reality The Mail is far worse.

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
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My bad - although you still fucked up 'ally's'

Call it 1-1 !

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
My bad - although you still fucked up 'ally's'

Call it 1-1 !

I'll take that on Wednsday (sic).

napolimp · Sep 12, 2022

JAM See said:
Where should I get my news?

I source the BBC for relative objectivity.

The Gruaniad because it ally's with my general worldview.

The Daily Mail so I can see what the enemy is thinking.

The Sun for Dear Deidre.

SBT for LOL's

Where else would you suggest?

What they meant to say is "your first mistake is reading". marcusp doesn't, never learnt.

JAM See · Sep 12, 2022

napolimp said:
What they meant to say is "your first mistake is reading". marcusp doesn't, never learnt.

Speaking of reading, probably the wrong thread and I know we have a music thread and a TV thread on here, but do we have a books thread?

I may start one if we haven't.

Shuggie Bain. Absolute class!

SuperFred · Sep 13, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
The club are liaising with WMP and are waiting on them to come back.

Any indication as to which way it might go? You'd think we'd get a definitive answer by the end of today.

ThievingScally · Sep 13, 2022

Both games will go ahead.

The Daily mail is a vile.

TSx

lordy_87 · Sep 13, 2022

You'd expect a decision on the blues game today/tomorrow surely ?

Pricey1984 · Sep 13, 2022

club have tweeted they expect it to be on

Skyblueweeman · Sep 13, 2022

SuperFred said:
Any indication as to which way it might go? You'd think we'd get a definitive answer by the end of today.

Not from me I'm afraid as I've not spoken to anyone at the club other than via email about Luton tomorrow.

A post below though seems positive that it'll be on.

Skyblueweeman · Sep 13, 2022

Just spoke to Sutton who are at home on Saturday to Hartlepool and I asked if their fixture was at danger of being called off as they're Met Police and they normally only have 18 police for a game so they're fine. He said that Chelsea/Liverpool on Sunday was due to have 650 police and being on Sunday, that's a large number so that's why that one's off.

He said that he thinks an average championship game would have 200-300 police - I guess with a local rivalry, it'll be the top end of that so I guess WMP must be confident that they can allocate that resource. Had the game been on Sunday, might have been a different matter.

Grendel · Sep 13, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Just spoke to Sutton who are at home on Saturday to Hartlepool and I asked if their fixture was at danger of being called off as they're Met Police and they normally only have 18 police for a game so they're fine. He said that Chelsea/Liverpool on Sunday was due to have 650 police and being on Sunday, that's a large number so that's why that one's off.

He said that he thinks an average championship game would have 200-300 police - I guess with a local rivalry, it'll be the top end of that so I guess WMP must be confident that they can allocate that resource. Had the game been on Sunday, might have been a different matter.

Brentford Arsenal goes ahead doesn’t it?

Skyblueweeman · Sep 13, 2022

Grendel said:
Brentford Arsenal goes ahead doesn’t it?

At the moment, yes. Perhaps less police required at that game? I don't know, I'm not the Met Police G. Just passing on what I've been told.

South West Sky Blue · Sep 13, 2022

Skyblueweeman said:
Just spoke to Sutton who are at home on Saturday to Hartlepool and I asked if their fixture was at danger of being called off as they're Met Police and they normally only have 18 police for a game so they're fine. He said that Chelsea/Liverpool on Sunday was due to have 650 police and being on Sunday, that's a large number so that's why that one's off.

He said that he thinks an average championship game would have 200-300 police - I guess with a local rivalry, it'll be the top end of that so I guess WMP must be confident that they can allocate that resource. Had the game been on Sunday, might have been a different matter.

I’ve previously worked in security at Championship and League One level games. There was never anywhere near those figures. I’m surprised by the Sutton figures.
About a third would have 3-4 police officers. The higher profile games (Saturday with Leeds or Milwall ….etc) would generally get around 100. You could add another 50 if they knew in advance people were coming looking for trouble rather than just anticipating it.
I’d be guessing that our B’ham game would have just over 100.
Problem is that only riot trained police can work these games and they are the ones that are being sought for the security operation in London.

Skyblueweeman · Sep 13, 2022

South West Sky Blue said:
I’ve previously worked in security at Championship and League One level games. There was never anywhere near those figures. I’m surprised by the Sutton figures.
About a third would have 3-4 police officers. The higher profile games (Saturday with Leeds or Milwall ….etc) would generally get around 100. You could add another 50 if they knew in advance people were coming looking for trouble rather than just anticipating it.
I’d be guessing that our B’ham game would have just over 100.
Problem is that only riot trained police can work these games and they are the ones that are being sought for the security operation in London.

Ah ok. Well it was the Vice-Chairman of Sutton who I was speaking to and he's the one dealing with the police for their games and he heard the 650 figure for the Chelsea/Liverpool game from the Met Police.

I thought the 200-300 was a bit high but he's got more experience of dealing with it for his clubs and from speaking to others.

Finham · Sep 13, 2022

All the Old Bill redeployed to The Smoke, eh? Could see a bit of a crime spree.

Johhny Blue · Sep 13, 2022

SBB just scored for Blackburn

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