Wilson goal (4 Viewers)

curly_tom · Apr 21, 2023

Every game has moments where the ref gets it wrong, it's part of the game. We should have had a penalty against Watford but didn't and Blackpool against us. That's why they brought VAR in but there's still loads of controversy. I prefer the game without VAR, I like the mess and the mistakes by refs. There could have been sendings off in this match and other fouls or penalties. The ref could never see the handball and even if there was VAR I'm not sure it would be conclusive enough to disallow the goal. For me it makes it all the sweeter after Blackburn rolling around on the floor and kicking the ball away, their fans holding on to the ball etc.

ProfessorbyGrace · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
But this is the point surely? Football supporters are totally biased and can’t assess a referees performance

The stoke offside goal is an example of the officials being labelled corrupt and cheating when it actually proved to be a correct decision - which at the time I couldn’t believe was

Of course, it’s easy to fall into a biased mindset, and in truth, Fadz and Travis should have seen red, respectively. In an objective, unbiased perspective.

Although Travis infuriated me with his gamesmanship and aggression, I did think to myself after the game, that we could do with a player like that at times.

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 21, 2023

ProfessorbyGrace said:
Of course, it’s easy to fall into a biased mindset, and in truth, Fadz and Travis should have seen red, respectively. In an objective, unbiased perspective.

Although Travis infuriated me with his gamesmanship and aggression, I did think to myself after the game, that we could do with a player like that at times.

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skyblueelephant76 · Apr 21, 2023

curly_tom said:
Every game has moments where the ref gets it wrong, it's part of the game. We should have had a penalty against Watford but didn't and Blackpool against us. That's why they brought VAR in but there's still loads of controversy. I prefer the game without VAR, I like the mess and the mistakes by refs. There could have been sendings off in this match and other fouls or penalties. The ref could never see the handball and even if there was VAR I'm not sure it would be conclusive enough to disallow the goal. For me it makes it all the sweeter after Blackburn rolling around on the floor and kicking the ball away, their fans holding on to the ball etc.

The Sky referee review said there was no evidence to disallow the goal and they would have gone with the on field decision

Behind the Whistle: Chris Foy explains latest EFL decisions including Andy Carroll's red card and Coventry calls

Former Premier League referee Chris Foy examines decisions from the Championship and also in League One games between Accrington and Peterborough and Ipswich and Port Vale, plus matches in League Two featuring Gillingham and Leyton Orient and Stevenage and Doncaster

www.skysports.com

Speedie's Head · Apr 21, 2023

curly_tom said:
Every game has moments where the ref gets it wrong, it's part of the game. We should have had a penalty against Watford but didn't and Blackpool against us. That's why they brought VAR in but there's still loads of controversy. I prefer the game without VAR, I like the mess and the mistakes by refs. There could have been sendings off in this match and other fouls or penalties. The ref could never see the handball and even if there was VAR I'm not sure it would be conclusive enough to disallow the goal. For me it makes it all the sweeter after Blackburn rolling around on the floor and kicking the ball away, their fans holding on to the ball etc.

If we must have VAR then it should have a margin of error built in, like cricket does, to support the on-field decision - unless it's obviously wrong. I like the umpire's call bit. Getting the Atomic Force Microscope out to measure offside is just a nonsense. I'm not sure how you would do that with VAR I've never thought about it really but it's important to keep the game flowing, American Football was ruined for a time by ridiculous over-use of the replays (just because they could) until they found a happier medium. A one hour game still takes over three hours to complete!

Johhny Blue · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
On their forum there’s a behind goal still by still. It’s obvious it did.

I don’t see why people try and deny it.

Their fans seem more annoyed that Mcfazdean wasn’t sent off. For what I have no idea

That was the angle that convinced me it wasn’t handball. After all the Blackburn antics I would feel better if it was.
Fadz was a lucky boy to stay on.

Robinshio · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
That was the angle that convinced me it wasn’t handball. After all the Blackburn antics I would feel better if it was.
Fadz was a lucky boy to stay on.

maybe, but not half as lucky as Travis for them
on a yellow, he makes a straight red challenge

PVA · Apr 21, 2023

Fadz was trying to hook his leg round to get the ball. It absolutely was not an intentional rake of the studs down his leg.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Apr 21, 2023

skyblueelephant76 said:
The Sky referee review said there was no evidence to disallow the goal and they would have gone with the on field decision

Behind the Whistle: Chris Foy explains latest EFL decisions including Andy Carroll's red card and Coventry calls

Former Premier League referee Chris Foy examines decisions from the Championship and also in League One games between Accrington and Peterborough and Ipswich and Port Vale, plus matches in League Two featuring Gillingham and Leyton Orient and Stevenage and Doncaster

www.skysports.com

So if the Sky referee is undecided with all the camera angles then no wonder the referee didn't see it.

Sick Boy · Apr 21, 2023

Boosh said:

It’s almost like there isn’t some kind of referee conspiracy against us.

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 21, 2023

skyblueelephant76 said:
The Sky referee review said there was no evidence to disallow the goal and they would have gone with the on field decision

Behind the Whistle: Chris Foy explains latest EFL decisions including Andy Carroll's red card and Coventry calls

Former Premier League referee Chris Foy examines decisions from the Championship and also in League One games between Accrington and Peterborough and Ipswich and Port Vale, plus matches in League Two featuring Gillingham and Leyton Orient and Stevenage and Doncaster

www.skysports.com

What was Carroll shaking his head about

Johhny Blue · Apr 21, 2023

PVA said:
Fadz was trying to hook his leg round to get the ball. It absolutely was not an intentional rake of the studs down his leg.

Are you his Mum?

PVA · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
Are you his Mum?

Not the last time I checked, no.

But it's not very clear in that gif. The multiple angles showed he was trying to get to the ball. It was clumsy, but not intentional.

rexo87 · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
Oh - well there you go

Its not a red. The guy was in the way of the ball after the whistle had gone and Fadz tried to get it. Yes it's a bit of a sore one but no chance a red

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Johhny Blue · Apr 21, 2023

There’s a lot of sky blue tinted glasses here

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
There’s a lot of sky blue tinted glasses here

Funny that

mark82 · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
Did he? I didn’t see it.

Yeah, don't think it was intentional though. In fairness, we'd probably be calling it out the other way.

mark82 · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
But this is the point surely? Football supporters are totally biased and can’t assess a referees performance

The stoke offside goal is an example of the officials being labelled corrupt and cheating when it actually proved to be a correct decision - which at the time I couldn’t believe was

I'm one of the worst offenders for this, so can ignore my opinions on referee decisions. Will still continue to give them though.

mark82 · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
There’s a lot of sky blue tinted glasses here

From one angle I thought it was handball. From another I was convinced it wasn't. What chance would the referee have to get it right one way or the other.

Johhny Blue · Apr 21, 2023

mark82 said:
From one angle I thought it was handball. From another I was convinced it wasn't. What chance would the referee have to get it right one way or the other.

In future they could poll the crowd

DazzleTommyDazzle · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
In future they could poll the crowd

Instead of “Text a sub”, go for “Text a decision”?

Cost only £2.50 plus standard network charges.

mark82 · Apr 21, 2023

Johhny Blue said:
In future they could poll the crowd

Only when we're at home.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 21, 2023

DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Instead of “Text a sub”, go for “Text a decision”?

Cost only £2.50 plus standard network charges.

Tottenham jammed that particular line

Johhny Blue · Apr 21, 2023

mark82 said:
Only when we're at home.

Or at MK dons

JimmyHillsbeard · Apr 21, 2023

Grendel said:
Did he? I didn’t see it.

He definitely did - after we had already been given the free kick. He was v lucky to not get sent off (and he’s also q lucky the EFL haven’t reopened it as the ref took no action at the time)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Apr 21, 2023

DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Instead of “Text a sub”, go for “Text a decision”?

Cost only £2.50 plus standard network charges.

Isn't that Barca's business model? Though I think you missed the 'm' off.

djr8369 · Apr 22, 2023

Noticed one of the commentators for the Preston Blackburn game said it should have been disallowed for hand ball. Seemed an odd thing to say when there doesn’t seem to be any footage showing that.

Also, the poetry of Hyam scoring the own goal was sublime. Football writes some amazing stories sometimes.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 22, 2023

djr8369 said:
Noticed one of the commentators for the Preston Blackburn game said it should have been disallowed for hand ball. Seemed an odd thing to say when there doesn’t seem to be any footage showing that.

Also, the poetry of Hyam scoring the own goal was sublime. Football writes some amazing stories sometimes.

And of Szmodics cheating with his hand then trying to bullshit the ref into allowing the goal

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