Sky Blue Pete
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At away grounds?
At away grounds?
I guess the barcode is scanned on entry so not hard to get the data.How?
It will do and it’s common at bigger clubs too where there’s a pressure. Once you’ve attained the privileged status of 1100+ points, there’s an incentive to get tickets and resell them to keep accumulating points. I really don’t think there’d have been a rush to sell out Wimbledon away without it.You can only buy one ticket per supporter number - it doesn’t make a ton of sense for people to buy tickets just for the points if they’re not also planning to attend the away games anyway. I’d be amazed if it becomes a widespread problem.
Focus on this????I guess the barcode is scanned on entry so not hard to get the data.
A ballot system may be required - which prioritises people with the most loyalty points without making it a closed shop. It’s frustrating looking at sale windows and knowing I won’t get in - I’ve got 850 points or so.
That’s a bit of a sophisticated solution at this moment in time. A longer term solution, especially if we’re successful this year and onwards.
If the away end is full , the we sold out Wimbledon because fans wanted to go , not because of points .. it's also a new ground for many , a thing fans seem to forgetIt will do and it’s common at bigger clubs too where there’s a pressure. Once you’ve attained the privileged status of 1100+ points, there’s an incentive to get tickets and resell them to keep accumulating points. I really don’t think there’d have been a rush to sell out Wimbledon away without it.
Before, the top privilege was being a ST holder only. Which didn’t reward fans who followed us at cup games and away matches.
Unlike the England system where you need to collect tickets and have ID to get them.
At least 500 out of the 1,200 sold were bought just for the points by people with no intention of going
Nobody will be moaning about tickets for the midweek trip to Plymouth, and that's why this argument of fans saying points are unfair doesn't hold waterI've got the same amount of points as you, that's why I'm going to Exeter this Saturday instead of Leicester, I've just got to accept that I will only get to the games I can get to and can manage to get tickets for.
I never said I should have more priority.Right so why do you have 850 points and I have 1550 .. and why should I have the same priority as you .. in your opinion
There's a reason you have 850 though
But last season we never sold out all our away games .. there will be several matches this season where fans can go that aren't sold out and they can probably add a couple hundred points to their total ..I never said I should have more priority.
What I am getting at is that if the system becomes a closed shop, it is possible it could deter a lot of newer fans from following the club away.
There’s been a quite a lot of games I’ve really wanted to get tickets to but couldn’t because of availability and not getting a chance.
So loyal fans who followed us away when we were shite should miss out now newer fans can jump on the bandwagon?I never said I should have more priority.
What I am getting at is that if the system becomes a closed shop, it is possible it could deter a lot of newer fans from following the club away.
There’s been a quite a lot of games I’ve really wanted to get tickets to but couldn’t because of availability and not getting a chance.
ST holders are hardly bandwagoners. There’s a risk that the points system will close off away games to the most ‘elite’ fans.So loyal fans who followed us away when we were shite should miss out now newer fans can jump on the bandwagon?
I never said I should have more priority.
What I am getting at is that if the system becomes a closed shop, it is possible it could deter a lot of newer fans from following the club away.
There’s been a quite a lot of games I’ve really wanted to get tickets to but couldn’t because of availability and not getting a chance.
You said it puts newer fans off following the club away, not ST holders.ST holders are hardly bandwagoners. There’s a risk that the points system will close off away games to the most ‘elite’ fans.
There’s no control that the fan ID using their priority to get the ticket is actually the one using it on the day.
That lack of control, has obvious loopholes.
I agree that those of you with most points deserve the most priority but if every allocation fails to get out of the 900+ points window - that’s a problem.
We'll sell out not many away games, local teams, relegated teams and londonBut last season we never sold out all our away games .. there will be several matches this season where fans can go that aren't sold out and they can probably add a couple hundred points to their total ..
Newer fans can also have season tickets…You said it puts newer fans off following the club away, not ST holders.
What I am getting at is that if the system becomes a closed shop, it is possible it could deter a lot of newer fans from following the club away.
Local teams yes, relegated teams possibly Leeds but not Saints as its midweek. London teams, QPR yes if playing weel as big allocation but we never sell out Millwall although we do tend to take more each season.We'll sell out not many away games, local teams, relegated teams and london
Yes and so they need to start going to mid week away games like Preston on a cold, wet Tuesday to build there points and not moan that they can't get a ticket for a local derby.Newer fans can also have season tickets…
After Swansea we have Hull & Cardiff away. Big allocations and during the week. Anyone worried about points should easily get a ticket for these ones. Wait for the excuses.....
As has been mentioned though, not too many away games sold out last season. I’m lucky, I’m retired and can afford the time and the money to attend games such as Wigan, Preston and Blackburn away last season. I have a son living in Stockport who comes with me to these games iso that is an added bonus.I never said I should have more priority.
What I am getting at is that if the system becomes a closed shop, it is possible it could deter a lot of newer fans from following the club away.
There’s been a quite a lot of games I’ve really wanted to get tickets to but couldn’t because of availability and not getting a chance.
I'm not retired and I got back from Blackburn at 1:30 am and had work at 5:30 .As has been mentioned though, not too many away games sold out last season. I’m lucky, I’m retired and can afford the time and the money to attend games such as Wigan, Preston and Blackburn away last season. I have a son living in Stockport who comes with me to these games iso that is an added bonus.
The fact is that those games didn’t sell out and anyone attending would have boosted their points. It costs a fair bit of money to attend such matches with ticket and fuel prices what they are. You then have to factor in the horrendous journey back down the M6 with all of the night closures that entails. I know I’m fortunate but I do put the time, effort and money into following City up and down the country. I do think it’s fair that the system rewards supporters like me with priority booking. It’s much better that the frantic fight for tickets that occurred before this system, at ten on a Monday morning.
I take your point about ‘closed shop’ maybe putting some supporters off, but at the moment it is only closed for a few select games.
I missed out on the sale of Wimbledon tickets, ( I didn’t realise they were on sale), so no thirty points added to my total, but I have bought one in the home end so will still go.
leeds sell out everywhere we don't , there's no argumentAs an FYI Leeds eventually had to change their system as it became a closed shop, as others have said, so there’s merit to the argument.
Demand is increasing significantly thoughleeds sell out everywhere we don't , there's no argument
But until we sell out every match then it's just some fans moaning they can't do big gamesDemand is increasing significantly though
Demand is increasing significantly though
Same total as me but I have to confess I was still in my bed when you were setting off to work!I'm not retired and I got back from Blackburn at 1:30 am and had work at 5:30 .
Same shitty journeys with preston as you say the m6 is wank ..
I attended 43 of the 46 league games last season
My points are what they are because of that
Struggled to give them away .Fuckinell, how good is it to be moaning about not being able to get tickets!
Before MR returned we struggled to give them away.
What a journey we're on 🩵
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