Would a new regime stick with the manager ? (1 Viewer)

rupert_bear · Apr 7, 2013

If a new broom rides into town will they stick with the present manager ? I don't think the American, if it's him, would know one manager from another. For me I think they should initially but pressure is sure to be on immediately and promotion will be a minimum requirement and being well in the top 2 or 3 straight away.
Despite reservations on here i think Steven Pressley can cut it with the right backing and resources, just wonder what Elliott and Hoffman think.

CovLis86 · Apr 7, 2013

I think they would stick with pressley to try gain some stability they keep saying they are after. Would be a contradiction to come in and swap managers right away. I'm still unsure about pressley, though I haven't seen a live match with him so can't have a full opinion.

Skybluerevolution (Pt2) · Apr 7, 2013

It will depend on results and whether Pressley would of been in the reckoning if Joe and Gary were involved with the Club, will the stigma of SISU be attached to SP? could it be a case of new start all round, I hope he is given a chance after all he moved to England and uprooted his young family and in my humble opinion seems to be making the most of a very bad and difficult situation.

SkyBlueRuffian · Apr 7, 2013

The bloke needs time, and with the right backing who knows what he can acheive. There should be no extra pressure put on Pressley as he would be fully aware of the task in hand.

The problem I have with foreign owners can be their unpatient streak, just look at Blackburn for example.

Greggs · Apr 7, 2013

No No No No No. He has taken us backwards. Possession football for the defenders.........then hoof. Without Cyrus Christie we would never get in the final 3rd of the pitch. Pathetic.

stupot07 · Apr 7, 2013

New owners pretty much always bring in their own manager.

la-ccfc · Apr 7, 2013

I don't he would be sacked within five minutes of the club being taken over, but because he isn't the man they want it may be a case of trying to find the first excuse to sack him and make it sound justified.

ampthill_sba · Apr 7, 2013

Greggs said:
No No No No No. He has taken us backwards. Possession football for the defenders.........then hoof. Without Cyrus Christie we would never get in the final 3rd of the pitch. Pathetic.

I tend to agree...but would also want to give him time to build his own team and seek stability.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

Pressley should be given time, but I think it's highly unlikely he would get any if the takeover is done quickly. The only manager over the last 6-7 years who had an eye for quality players was Dowie and his sidekick brother.(Dann and Fox) say no more. If there was to be anew manager coming in, I would like to think Dowie would be given the chance to finish what he started.

hill83 · Apr 7, 2013

Sky Blue Kid said:
Pressley should be given time, but I think it's highly unlikely he would get any if the takeover is done quickly. The only manager over the last 6-7 years who had an eye for quality players was Dowie and his sidekick brother.(Dann and Fox) say no more. If there was to be anew manager coming in, I would like to think Dowie would be given the chance to finish what he started.

Amazingly I agree. I thought Dowie was sacked prematurely.

Ccfcisparks · Apr 7, 2013

Sky Blue Kid said:
Pressley should be given time, but I think it's highly unlikely he would get any if the takeover is done quickly. The only manager over the last 6-7 years who had an eye for quality players was Dowie and his sidekick brother.(Dann and Fox) say no more. If there was to be anew manager coming in, I would like to think Dowie would be given the chance to finish what he started.

No no no no no. No way! What planet are you on!? Planet Deluded?

Jarvo · Apr 7, 2013

Lets get Dowie Back -I actually rated him.

Dowie was released from his contract as Coventry manager, which was officially cited as being due to significant differences of opinion between the management team and the Board as to how the club should be going forward. - Wikipedia.

Grendel · Apr 7, 2013

hill83 said:
Amazingly I agree. I thought Dowie was sacked prematurely.

In his last few months his record was very poor and he signed a lot of very very poor players which ultimately saddled the club with a £12 million wage bill

He also was lucky as he had Misfud scoring for fun. Once that stopped he really started to struggle.

Ccfcisparks · Apr 7, 2013

Jarvo said:
Lets get Dowie Back -I actually rated him.

Dowie was released from his contract as Coventry manager, which was officially cited as being due to significant differences of opinion between the management team and the Board as to how the club should be going forward. - Wikipedia.

He is jst another average manager who we have had over the seasons

Jarvo · Apr 7, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04GOYRjC33I&feature=player_embedded

O.K Who would you have back? I didn't like Bothroyd, but mayb it isn't the manager who is the problem.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

Ccfcisparks said:
No no no no no. No way! What planet are you on!? Planet Deluded?

It seems I'm on a planet where people actually have thoughts of their own Yes.yes,yes,yes,yes. not one that can't think for itself and come up with an opinion of it's own!...Prat!:facepalm:

sw88 · Apr 7, 2013

hill83 said:
Amazingly I agree. I thought Dowie was sacked prematurely.

Sisu never had any intention of keeper Dowie and Flowers. They were treated dreadfully and everything possible was put in true way to make sure they failed!

Ccfcisparks · Apr 7, 2013

Sky Blue Kid said:
It seems I'm on a planet where people actually have thoughts of their own Yes.yes,yes,yes,yes. not one that can't think for itself and come up with an opinion of it's own!...Prat!:facepalm:

The fact you think Dowie could do a good job is ridiculous

sw88 · Apr 7, 2013

As for new owners sticking with Pressley, im not sure! Preston obviously has a form of interest in football, something that SISU failed to have, and still today, fail to have, so im sure he will have an idea of what is required for where he wants to take a club

stupot07 · Apr 7, 2013

To be fair dowies record in the league was pretty average -
PL 43 W 15 D7 L 21 Win ratio 35% Loss ratio 49% 1.21 pts per game (55 over a season) - the points per game is almost identical to Coleman's 1.19 (54.5) and Adams - 1.26 pts per game (58).

And as for signings - Gray, Cairo, Dimi Kantstopalot, Simpson, Michael Hughes, borrowdale, De Zeeux, Simmonds......before ranson brought in Dann and fox

covross · Apr 7, 2013

did dowie sign kevin kyle?

stupot07 · Apr 7, 2013

covross said:
did dowie sign kevin kyle?

No that was Adams.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

Grendel said:
In his last few months his record was very poor and he signed a lot of very very poor players which ultimately saddled the club with a £12 million wage bill

He also was lucky as he had Misfud scoring for fun. Once that stopped he really started to struggle.

I've been accused of coming from "Planet Deluded"....What universe are you from?
Dowie was at CCFC for less than a season. Had very little money to spend on players, but bought Dann and Fox for buttons.
He was so crap as a manager that he did something no manager in generations could do.....beat MAN UTD 2-0 at OT.....and in the same year beat WBA away.....and again in the same year absolutely muller Blackburn at Ewood park.(All three teams were still in the Premier league at that time too)
Yet RR/SISU kicked him out for Coleman?!?!...A manager who struggles to win games with nearly lots of teams to pick a squad from.
Hoofroyd brings in a player on £12k a week wages...Don't remember Dowie being given that much to pay one(1) player with.
You say Dowie signed very, very, poor players on high wages Come on then...Who are they, and what wages were they on?....In other words Grenduffy, put up or shut up!
And none of your "Estimated Facts on wages either":facepalm:

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

Grendel said:
In his last few months his record was very poor and he signed a lot of very very poor players which ultimately saddled the club with a £12 million wage bill

He also was lucky as he had Misfud scoring for fun. Once that stopped he really started to struggle.

I've been accused of coming from "Planet Deluded"....What universe are you from?
Dowie was at CCFC for less than a season. Had very little money to spend on players, but bought Dann and Fox for buttons.
He was so crap as a manager that he did something no manager in generations could do.....beat MAN UTD 2-0 at OT.....and in the same year beat WBA away.....and again in the same year absolutely muller Blackburn at Ewood park.(All three teams were still in the Premier league at that time too)
Yet RR/SISU kicked him out for Coleman?!?!...A manager who struggles to win games with lots of teams to pick a squad from.
Hoofroyd brings in a player on £12k a week wages...Don't remember Dowie being given that much to pay one(1) player with.
You say Dowie signed very, very, poor players on high wages Come on then...Who are they, and what wages were they on?....In other words Grenduffy, put up or shut up!
And none of your "Estimated Facts on wages either":facepalm:

Jarvo · Apr 7, 2013

Exclude Hull and his record is good. Coleman was awful tho.

TeamNationFromToMatchesWonDrawnLostWin %Queens Park Rangers (caretaker) England01998-09-2828 September 199801998-10-1616 October 199870002000000000000002700010000000000000015000000000000000000070001000000000000001700150000000000000050.00Oldham Athletic

England02002-05-3131 May 200202003-12-1919 December 2003700182000000000000082700131000000000000031700128000000000000028700123000000000000023700137800999990000037.80Crystal Palace

England02003-12-2222 December 200302006-05-2222 May 20067002123000000000000123700150000000000000050700129000000000000029700144000000000000044700140650000000000040.65Charlton Athletic

England02006-05-3030 May 200602006-11-1313 November 2006700115000000000000015700040000000000000047000300000000000000370008000000000000008700126670000000000026.67Coventry City

England02007-02-1919 February 200702008-02-1111 February 200870014900000000000004970012000000000000002070008000000000000008700121000000000000021700140820000000000040.82Queens Park Rangers

England02008-05-1414 May 200802008-10-2424 October 2008700115000000000000015700080000000000000087000300000000000000370004000000000000004700153330000000000053.33Hull City

England02010-03-1717 March 201002010-05-099 May 201070009000000000000009700010000000000000017000300000000000000370005000000000000005700111110000000000011.11Total700229500000000000029570021150000000000001157001740000000000000747002106000000000000106700138980999999999938.98

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

Ccfcisparks said:
The fact you think Dowie could do a good job is ridiculous

The fact that you haven't contributed to the debate speaks volumes mate...There are a lot of posters sitting and waiting with "Baited Breath" for you to give imput, instead of sit there with nothing to say, except slag others posts off!:facepalm:

leicesterskyblue · Apr 7, 2013

I must admit, though I could only listen on the radio at the time so I'm some people will disagree but I thought Eric Black did a pretty good job...would he be worth a shout IF we did get rid of Elvis with a new owner?

(would still like to see him given a full off season and a transfer window with some funds)

Jarvo · Apr 7, 2013

40.82% at Coventry. Anyway we're not going up, Haskell won't buy Coventry unless he is crazy, SISU will liquidate us, we need to play the youth team for the rest of the sason and start again with a fan share. I'm just sick of it.

derbyskyblue · Apr 7, 2013

Jarvo said:
Exclude Hull and his record is good. Coleman was awful tho.

TeamNationFromToMatchesWonDrawnLostWin %Queens Park Rangers (caretaker) England01998-09-2828 September 199801998-10-1616 October 199870002000000000000002700010000000000000015000000000000000000070001000000000000001700150000000000000050.00Oldham Athletic England02002-05-3131 May 200202003-12-1919 December 2003700182000000000000082700131000000000000031700128000000000000028700123000000000000023700137800999990000037.80Crystal Palace England02003-12-2222 December 200302006-05-2222 May 20067002123000000000000123700150000000000000050700129000000000000029700144000000000000044700140650000000000040.65Charlton Athletic England02006-05-3030 May 200602006-11-1313 November 2006700115000000000000015700040000000000000047000300000000000000370008000000000000008700126670000000000026.67Coventry City England02007-02-1919 February 200702008-02-1111 February 200870014900000000000004970012000000000000002070008000000000000008700121000000000000021700140820000000000040.82Queens Park Rangers England02008-05-1414 May 200802008-10-2424 October 2008700115000000000000015700080000000000000087000300000000000000370004000000000000004700153330000000000053.33Hull City England02010-03-1717 March 201002010-05-099 May 201070009000000000000009700010000000000000017000300000000000000370005000000000000005700111110000000000011.11Total700229500000000000029570021150000000000001157001740000000000000747002106000000000000106700138980999999999938.98

What the fook are you trying to do? I nearly had a fit !!

sw88 · Apr 7, 2013

derbyskyblue said:
What the fook are you trying to do? I nearly had a fit !!

Thats the amount of games Dowie has been involved in. No wonder hes aged so much!

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 7, 2013

leicesterskyblue said:
I must admit, though I could only listen on the radio at the time so I'm some people will disagree but I thought Eric Black did a pretty good job...would he be worth a shout IF we did get rid of Elvis with a new owner?

(would still like to see him given a full off season and a transfer window with some funds)

There's always one who says this.

'He was good 10 years ago so he must be good now'

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 7, 2013

stupot07 said:
To be fair dowies record in the league was pretty average -
PL 43 W 15 D7 L 21 Win ratio 35% Loss ratio 49% 1.21 pts per game (55 over a season) - the points per game is almost identical to Coleman's 1.19 (54.5) and Adams - 1.26 pts per game (58).

And as for signings - Gray, Cairo, Dimi Kantstopalot, Simpson, Michael Hughes, borrowdale, De Zeeux, Simmonds......before ranson brought in Dann and fox

Correct stupot07, with the proviso that you should acknowledge it was the Dowie Brothers who spotted and scouted Dann and Fox...Ranson provided the money..Nothing more

leicesterskyblue · Apr 7, 2013

Brighton Sky Blue said:
There's always one who says this.

'He was good 10 years ago so he must be good now'

In theory he should be better as he should have 10 more years experience........

italiahorse · Apr 7, 2013

I can only go on what I've seen and my initial thoughts are that I don't like the way the team are playing under Pressley.
Long balls to the single striker is not what I want.
Possession football but only by the back 4 and I never feel comfortable, Murphy eventually just doing a big kick.
Midfielders who always run back to the goal area to defend or running past the play into the box all waiting for a cross from the wide player with 2 on him.
Non of them anticipating and getting into space whether attacking or defending.
If they have any doubts about Pressley he needs to go with the SISU write off so we don't start by compensating a manager.

covboy1987 · Apr 7, 2013

hill83 said:
Amazingly I agree. I thought Dowie was sacked prematurely.

Dowies record at Coventry is one of the best win percentage of a Coventry manager record for the last 20 years

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