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ms639 · Oct 8, 2021

Let’s imagine we wake up this morning and instead of buying Newcastle, this group had made a more sensible decision and bought CCFC, would you be happy?

I look at Man City and think if I was an MCFC fan prior to all the money, Maine road days etc I actually really would not like what has happened to the club.

Can’t help but think these owners with their endless pit of cash, actually go a long way to sucking the lifeblood out of the club despite all the investment.

I know we all want to get back to the big time but I honestly would hate something like this to happen to us.

Thoughts?

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Garryb80 · Oct 8, 2021

ms639 said:
Let’s imagine we wake up this morning and instead of buying Newcastle, this group had made a more sensible decision and bought CCFC, would you be happy?

I look at Man City and think if I was an MCFC fan prior to all the money, Maine road days etc I actually really would not like what has happened to the club.

Can’t help but think these owners with their endless pit of cash, actually go a long way to sucking the lifeblood out of the club despite all the investment.

I know we all want to get back to the big time but I honestly would hate something like this to happen to us.

Thoughts?

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I am with you. Even aside from the glaring human rights issues it would purely be financial and have no actual club feel to it

higgs · Oct 8, 2021

I would like to see us playing in the champions league one day anyone think that's ever likely to happen?

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the rumpo kid · Oct 8, 2021

With the maga bucks floating around the BIG teams , man u man c Chelsea liverpool now probably with Newcastle, the rest of us are just there to make up numbers really, and the best we can realistically hope for is to be a Norwich or west brom and bounce between the top two divisions, if we're lucky.

Philosoraptor · Oct 8, 2021

ms639 said:
Thoughts?

We would always find something to moan about.

Kingokings204 · Oct 8, 2021

No I wouldn’t be happy personally. These people are in it for themselves which like everyone you could argue and it all sounds rosey and fluffy but they don’t give a shit about newcastle obviously and will be the first to drop it like a stone if it fails.
Wait until they try and change the stadium name or change the clubs colours. See how popular they are then?

Gosb · Oct 8, 2021

I suspect that there are very few Man City fans who prefer the City that was to the City that is. Ultimately, if the Sky Blues win I'm happy and if they don't I'm not. Thoughts of ownership and investment wouldn't cloud that feeling.

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2021

ms639 said:
Let’s imagine we wake up this morning and instead of buying Newcastle, this group had made a more sensible decision and bought CCFC, would you be happy?

I look at Man City and think if I was an MCFC fan prior to all the money, Maine road days etc I actually really would not like what has happened to the club.

Can’t help but think these owners with their endless pit of cash, actually go a long way to sucking the lifeblood out of the club despite all the investment.

I know we all want to get back to the big time but I honestly would hate something like this to happen to us.

Thoughts?

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I'm going to be honest , whilst it happens to other clubs il continue to be morally outraged .

If it happened to us I'd be delighted

Ccfcisparks · Oct 8, 2021

Yes I'd be ecstatic

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
Yes I'd be ecstatic

Plus we'd get millions of new fans

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 8, 2021

As much as I'd love to see us be a big team going for trophies and having top names playing for us I'd have to say no.

Apart from all the glory fans that would turn up it wouldn't feel right.

Under SISU for a long time the club felt like it had no soul and it would be like that but magnified.

Plus I don't think it's good for the game overall. Having a handful of teams that can just spend a fortune to prevent anyone else improving and thus having most of the league on the verge of going out of business just to keep up isn't healthy.

clint van damme · Oct 8, 2021

Not sure how I'd feel. Long been a critic of the Saudi regime.
Though I'd probably dig my heels in and be all for it if we got all the faux outrage that Newcastle are getting. Our institutions are thick as thieves with the Saudis, flags at half mast when Saudi dignitaries have died, red carpets at the Palace when they've visited and on and on.

Why should it fall to football to be moral arbiters?

Mcbean · Oct 8, 2021

Definitely not ! Think about what’s happened over the last 11 games - that didn’t cost multi millions - yes it would be great to be in the Prem but as above we will always be in the also rans - winning the championship will be the greatest club achievement one day alongside the 87 FA cup win - we are unlikely to do anything further whatever happens - looking forward to it PUSB

usskyblue · Oct 8, 2021

Yes and no…. I don’t fucking know.

Okay, no.

There’s something organic about beating the odds and defying expectations. Money wins are shallow wins. The years of struggle fuels the magic we’re riding right now. Money can bring success but it also brings sterilization and plasticity via over elevated expectation. Give me honest endeavor, passion and over achievement any day.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Oct 8, 2021

Gosb said:
I suspect that there are very few Man City fans who prefer the City that was to the City that is. Ultimately, if the Sky Blues win I'm happy and if they don't I'm not. Thoughts of ownership and investment wouldn't cloud that feeling.

Well, I know 4 Man city fans, all in their 40's & 50's....2 no longer go but used to, 1 still goes occassionaly & 1 is still a STH but is always moaning how shite & souless modern football has become.....

....a small but telling snapshot I feel.....or maybe its just my age group?

Bugsy · Oct 8, 2021

usskyblue said:
Yes and no…. I don’t fucking know.

Okay, no.

There’s something organic about beating the odds and defying expectations. Money wins are shallow wins. The years of struggle fuels the magic we’re riding right now. Money can bring success but it also brings sterilization and plasticity via over elevated expectation. Give me honest endeavor, passion and over achievement any day.

Excalty this

Not many fans and especially the fans In the top 4 know our feeling when we win
...PUSB

chiefdave · Oct 8, 2021

I'm not really in favour of the mega rich taking over clubs and having a handful of clubs that nobody else can compete with but there's an element of if you can't beat them join them. I'd love to see us winning things and playing in Europe.

There's a second part to this though and that's where the money is coming from, its not something I could just ignore if we were taken over by someone similar to Newcastle. Saying that I'm not sure what, either as an individual or a fan base as a whole, would be effective. Just look at our history with SISU, protests, boycotts etc do nothing. But its uncomfortable seeing the response of Newcastle fans knowing the human rights absues their new owners are responsible for.

Sky Blue Harry H · Oct 8, 2021

The only reason I err towards the yes, Champions League trophy aside - is that if we were to revisit this scenario in about 5 seasons time, we have more chance of being ibn L1 than the PL. So what we are saying is that we are (probably) as high as we can go (whilst parachute payments continue to exist) Fine, if we can stabilise in The Championship, but as fans you want to see a direction for the club. Eventually hanging around in The Championship with patches of poor form, and with best players always getting cherry picked will have its affect on returning customers. Won't bother me (and a lot of us) in particular, as a lot is about the experience, but it would be nice to know that there is still a realistic pathway to progress,

Gibbo · Oct 8, 2021

Football would be a lot better if every club was run in the way Ashley ran Newcastle - i.e within its means and with no silly money. Sadly that ship has sailed, and the reality is that a small number of clubs have finance that places them on a different planet. The owners of Man City etc have silly money and don't operate to standard commercial rules. They are owned by 'sovereign wealth funds', the clue is in the title.

In addition to the distinctly minority view that Ashley was running Newcastle properly, my other minority view is that it would be better if these super-financed clubs had a league to themselves PSG, Real, Barca, Man City etc.

I would be more than happy for the Sky Blues to get promoted to the rump Premiership that remained. There we may be able to compete, whereas at the moment, unless a sugar daddy appears, the best we can hope for is to replicate Norwich, which is a grizzly prospect.

shmmeee · Oct 8, 2021

Don’t think I would. Got FIFA/CM for pretending the worlds greats want to come to Cov.

All I want is enough cash to compete and not be worried about going bust TBH. If Robins had £5m or so to spend each summer and our wage bill meant we could compete for the likes of Walsh and James on frees I wouldn’t have much to complain about.

It’s great watching us punch above our weight but there’s a nagging feeling that if Robins were to go we’d go straight back down.

SBT · Oct 8, 2021

Purely anecdotal, but my friends who are Man City fans say they genuinely preferred it when they were shit. I imagine nostalgia is a big part of it, but cheaper tickets, a core fanbase, and (most of all) a sense of feeling closer to the club are the things they talk about missing.

The upsides of having mega-rich owners are obvious, but once your club starts catering to millions of fans overseas, hijacking the club’s PR to serve some oil tycoon, and jacking up season tickets to £1000 or more, it would quickly start to feel like someone else’s club.

Definitely an element of snobbery about that, but hey, that’s why football fans sing “Where were you when you were shit”. I’d love to see Coventry at Wembley every year, or do European away days, but I also want to set my own terms of what it means to be a Cov fan - I don’t want it to be this:

fatso · Oct 8, 2021

Hell yes!
Like it or not, that is what it takes to be a winner in football these days.
Didnt see many Chelsea, Man City, or United fans crying in their beer when they splashed silly cash about to win things!

hill83 · Oct 8, 2021

SBT said:
Purely anecdotal, but my friends who are Man City fans say they genuinely preferred it when they were shit. I imagine nostalgia is a big part of it, but cheaper tickets, a core fanbase, and (most of all) a sense of feeling closer to the club are the things they talk about missing.

The upsides of having mega-rich owners are obvious, but once your club starts catering to millions of fans overseas, hijacking the club’s PR to serve some oil tycoon, and jacking up season tickets to £1000 or more, it would quickly start to feel like someone else’s club.

Definitely an element of snobbery about that, but hey, that’s why football fans sing “Where were you when you were shit”. I’d love to see Coventry at Wembley every year, or do European away days, but I also want to set my own terms of what it means to be a Cov fan - I don’t want it to be this:

State of that video

Mcbean · Oct 8, 2021

fatso said:
Hell yes!
Like it or not, that is what it takes to be a winner in football these days.
Didnt see many Chelsea, Man City, or United fans crying in their beer when they splashed silly cash about to win things!

But these plastic fans even cry when they win - loosing sends them into apoplexy

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Oct 8, 2021

Don’t get how anybody could hate Coventry City becoming a force on the world stage. Would love it if the Saudi’s bought us instead and spunked their money on us.

Winny the Bish · Oct 8, 2021

Would I be happy with the prospect of massive investment to the football club and local area? YES.
Would I be happy with owners with human rights abuses on their resume? NO.

But there's a grand total of 0 ethical billionaires in the World right now... every mega-money man/woman will have black marks against their name. Sadly fans don't get a say in who takes charge of their club.

Si80 · Oct 8, 2021

Kingokings204 said:
Wait until they try and change the stadium name or change the clubs colours. See how popular they are then?

Has that ever happened at any club where a big takeover has happened?
Man City (owner worth £22BN) still play in blue. Utd (owner worth £3.5BN) still in red, Villa (owner worth £5BN) still in claret & blue. Chelsea (owner worth £9BN) still in blue. Liverpool (owner worth £2BN) still in red.... Feels like you're talking shite.

COV · Oct 8, 2021

Si80 said:
Has that ever happened at any club where a big takeover has happened?
Man City (owner worth £22BN) still play in blue. Utd (owner worth £3.5BN) still in red, Villa (owner worth £5BN) still in claret & blue. Chelsea (owner worth £9BN) still in blue. Liverpool (owner worth £2BN) still in red.... Feels like you're talking shite.

Cardiff? Didn’t the Hull maniac try to change their name as well?

You can get away with trying that at a Cardiff, Hull, no chance at a Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 8, 2021

Si80 said:
Has that ever happened at any club where a big takeover has happened?
Man City (owner worth £22BN) still play in blue. Utd (owner worth £3.5BN) still in red, Villa (owner worth £5BN) still in claret & blue. Chelsea (owner worth £9BN) still in blue. Liverpool (owner worth £2BN) still in red.... Feels like you're talking shite.

Cardiff changed shirt colours. Hull changed to Tigers for a bit too

Legia Sky Blue · Oct 8, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Cardiff changed shirt colours. Hull changed to Tigers for a bit too

Both reverted back though. I remember Jimmy Hill trying to change our name to Coventry Talbot, so this isn't necessarily the sole preserve of foreign ownership.

Legia Sky Blue · Oct 8, 2021

On another note I remember Red Bull being mooted here as a possible takeover group as one of their main F1 men is a Cov fan, but the consensus seemed overwhelmingly negative. Not sure how this site is reflective of our wider support at the best of times, but from that I suspect a 'mega bucks' takeover wouldn't be universally popular.

Si80 · Oct 8, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Cardiff changed shirt colours. Hull changed to Tigers for a bit too

I'll give you the Cardiff one, but Hull still played in a colour close to Gold & Black in the same way we've flitted between stripes and blocked out Sky Blue shirts.

No owner is walking into Newcastle and changing their strip / name. Selling the naming rights, yep that'll happen as a FFP workaround in the same way it has at the Etihad. But a run down the list of Prem teams that are owner by billionaires, the colour change fearmongering put out above has never happened.

SkyblueDad · Oct 8, 2021

At the moment we are on a bit of a charge to the Premiership and who knows we might succeed mainly due to how Robins & Viveash have us playing, but get to the Prem it will stop, it’s fast become a competition between owners wallets you can almost go down the Premier division and it’s in order of the wealthiest Managers come and go willy-nilly newly promoted Watford sixth from bottom not that bad considering have just changed theirs. I bet if the Newcastle takeover happens come back to it in five years they will be with their third or fourth manager and still no trophy.

fatso · Oct 8, 2021

I don't know of any individual or organisation that has bottomless pockets and a complete whiter than white ethical history.

Some sad fucker will always find some dirt somewhere.

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