It was agreed in the first place by both sides - after the council had stepped in to Save the project. The New Stadium was CCFCs idea. Then they screwed up.
Doesn't make a difference does it? What happens if the OAP used to be a lawyer and should know better?
It doesn't make it excusable like some try to does it?
Of course when SISU came in they should have played hardball in terms of rent and revenues BUT it doesn't excuse the fact it was extortionate in the first place does it?
Did ccfc have much choice?It was agreed in the first place by both sides - after the council had stepped in to Save the project. The New Stadium was CCFCs idea. Then they screwed up.
It was agreed in the first place by both sides - after the council had stepped in to Save the project. The New Stadium was CCFCs idea. Then they screwed up.
But we had a home, Highfield Road. The club chose to sell it , lease it back and start the RICOH project which they then in turn could not fund.
Every other business would have been left to their own devices but due to CCFC's place in the fabric of the city CCC and Higgs stepped in.
We made ourselves homeless, Twice Now by my reckoning
Yes, the previous regime have a big part to pay in it too. Such is what I mean when People go on about it being 100% sisus fault etc etc.But we had a home, Highfield Road. The club chose to sell it , lease it back and start the RICOH project which they then in turn could not fund.
Every other business would have been left to their own devices but due to CCFC's place in the fabric of the city CCC and Higgs stepped in.
We made ourselves homeless, Twice Now by my reckoning
Did ccfc have much choice?
I'm just going to find a homeless.bloke, make out I'm a savior but I'm charging him silly amounts of rent for helping him, I'm also taking all his wages from the job I helped him get...
First of all though set up a company and gift him 50% of it so that he can benefit from all the revenues earned from his brand new home, including the silly amounts of rent.
Hopefully he won't do something short sighted, like sell it.
He probably will need to sell it to afford the rent though....
Yes, the previous regime have a big part to pay in it too. Such is what I mean when People go on about it being 100% sisus fault etc etc.
Are people really trying to justify that the rent wasn't far too high? You couldn't make it up...
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Are people really trying to justify that the rent wasn't far too high? You couldn't make it up...
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Did ccfc have much choice?
I'm just going to find a homeless.bloke, make out I'm a savior but I'm charging him silly amounts of rent for helping him, I'm also taking all his wages from the job I helped him get...
Oaps agree to buying 5k burglar alarms that cost 300 quid, that ok too? I'd agree to hand over my wallet if somebody had a gun to my head, that fault too?
But we had a home, Highfield Road. The club chose to sell it , lease it back and start the RICOH project which they then in turn could not fund.
Every other business would have been left to their own devices but due to CCFC's place in the fabric of the city CCC and Higgs stepped in.
We made ourselves homeless, Twice Now by my reckoning
My thoughts exactly. Despite the whys and wherefores fans of the club should be outraged that we were ripped off by ACL and CCC. They should be outraged at Richardson for selling our home of 100+ years. They should be outraged that the custodians of the club signed up to such as constricting and ultimately destructive rental agreement. But no, they'd rather talk about SISUs lack of due dilligence. Yes, that is also an important part of our disastrous story, but certainly not as important as what went on before.
Still, SISU OUT!, eh?
If the silly rent was only 10% of his costs, then it would probably be better if he cut down on something else in the first instance.
So I can mark you down for an ISISU tee shirt can I?
No, put me down for a I Hate CCC, ACL, SISU, Richardson, McGinnity, PWKH, Fisher one.
If the silly rent was only 10% of his costs, then it would probably be better if he cut down on something else in the first instance.
Such a false statement. It may well have been only 10% of costs.. but no one ever relates % of revenue do they, as it tells a significantly different story.
I think they acknowledge the high rent but it wasn't the council's fault, because the club agreed to it, whilst bent over a barrel.Are people really trying to justify that the rent wasn't far too high? You couldn't make it up...
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Again if we went down I think sisu would need a pr transplantIf we go down this season then i'm out, will not get a season ticket and maybe pick the odd game. I've had a season ticket since 84 and have only missed a season due to Northampton move.
If we go down this season then i'm out, will not get a season ticket and maybe pick the odd game. I've had a season ticket since 84 and have only missed a season due to Northampton move.
Nick WTF? Delete this one.
We all have our moments like Jans melt down. I would say this one is yours.
Either that or Hill, Valliant or CovCity4lide have hacked your account!!!
Nick WTF? Delete this one.
We all have our moments like Jans melt down. I would say this one is yours.
Either that or Hill, Valliant or CovCity4lide have hacked your account!!!
I think they acknowledge the high rent but it wasn't the council's fault, because the club agreed to it, whilst bent over a barrel.
So that makes it sisus fault.
The same as I bought as car that had been used in an arm Robbery ten years ago so it was clearly me who did it.
The rent was high but it needed to be high to make ACL viable
The rent was high but it needed to be high to make ACL viable
SISU are hard-nosed business people dealing with millions - not by doddery parents
Why obviously more for the Ricoh? At HR we got 365 access to all revenues generated by the stadium, at the Ricoh we got no revenues. Hardly comparable is it?
Final years is the key bit there. As I recall the lease on HR increased the longer we stayed there as a penalty of sorts. As we ended up staying a lot longer than originally envisaged due to the delays with the Arena2000 project the lease increased. In any case who decided that was a good way to set the rent? One was a short term lease and the other was supposed to be permanent. Shouldn't other stadium rentals have been looked at and a market rate established?
If CCFC were essentially solely responsible for ensuring ACL could meet their financial commitments shouldn't they also have had some, if not all the benefit?
If I build a block of 10 flats I don't charge the first person to move in 10 times the going rate for one flat just in case nobody else moves in!
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