Directly by involving legal/management teams and indirectly by affecting potential local Wasps sponsors who don't want to be associated with CCFC demise.
You haven't said it's your opinion about the JLR stuff have you? It reads to me like fact.
Its an opinion based on information from people 'in the know'.
Until it actually happens it can't be fact.
For information I said 'Land Rover' not JLR.
Still stand by it.
Subsequent events undermine the arguments deployed in JR1.
It would seem that SISU are just trying to wear down the council be repeated legal action regardless of whether it has merit or not.
Such behaviour does nothing to make me look kindly on our owners.
Until SISU are gone this club will be mired in the shit they bring, they have to go if progress is ever to be made.
Or you could say what is it about the new ownership that has enhanced the value of the lease. Remember when it was bought there was no permanent sporting tenant.
The only person convinced is yourself.
I've already challenged you that what you are saying is against code of conduct and pre commitment arrangements which institutions such as JLR have in place. Not even withstanding the fact budgets and strategies are agreed and tied down not just left in the air on some whim that circumstances may change.
Thats why I know your bluffing and trying to claim their are issues which would never exist
What do you think will happen first?
1. There will be a human landing on Mars
2. Captain Dart will comment on a match day thread?
No, it is because you write them as if they are fact and hope everybody believes it and not ask for more info
Maybe him, Oucho and PWKH are having a bottle of pimms as we speak? Chaps on tour.
Yes that correct and as a result of that they will have had their lawyers all over it. To asses the implications how it affects them ect ect
Which is all time and money.
They had to make reference to it in their bond prospectus. So they will have to had to assess it with fine comb.
Would certainly be interested to see if the Wasps valuations stand up in court. Not suggesting that there is anything wrong with them (if the lawyers are reading this) but would like to know how accurate they are.
I very much doubt JLR will take over the sponsorship after the Ricoh contract expires. I work at JLR and there has been no indication from what I've heard that this will happen although wasps will have been banging the door ! The wasps/Land Rover sponsorship is as far as it will go I believe. Wasps aren't big enough headliners for JLR at this moment - really, how many times do you hear the Ricoh arena mentioned on TV and radio? Not much and not enough to sponsor a ground.
Wasps will be getting sweaty hands soon. The repaying of the bonds will be like a rope around there neck in the next couple of years. Wasps are heading for choppy waters soon and what I've read and hearing the gates are dropping and the £ numbers are not matching up.
Wasps will be getting sweaty hands soon. The repaying of the bonds will be like a rope around there neck in the next couple of years. Wasps are heading for choppy waters soon and what I've read and hearing the gates are dropping and the £ numbers are not matching up.
Home / Lifestyle / Is F-Pace proving too hot for Land Rover?
Is F-Pace proving too hot for Land Rover?
Jaguar F-Pace
6th December 2016
LAND ROVER has seen a near 20% dip in vehicle sales in the UK, according to new figures.
New registrations figures for November, released by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, show that 5,278 Land Rover vehicles were registered last month as against 6,535 for the corresponding month last year, a fall of 19.2%.
Sales are still ahead more than 21% for the year-to-date so alarm bells won’t be ringing just yet. However, the fall is one of the most significant in recent times.
You are not missing anything except - how they got to the valuation figure
They assess the income stream then apply a current yield rate that is appropriate to that business/property / entity
For example in a recent property sale. The underlying rack rent was agreed from local market rates. Then a capital value obtained producing a yield at just under 10% which was agreed by both sets of valuers as being appropriate
To some degree it would not matter if there was a buyer or seller because the valuer would be using his knowledge to reach the above which would be his estimated value suitable for buyer and seller,
Your point regarding the "value" of the stadium naming rights is a good one. Football hits a greater range and scope of the target audience, in comparison to rugby.
The Ricoh gets more coverage now with CCFC in League 1 then it does for Wasps being in the egg chasers top league
I might be the only person here that is entirely unconcerned with SISU launching a second JR against the council regarding the sale of ACL to Wasps.
I'd be surprised if it succeeds, but there clearly are some questions over the process followed for the sale and valuation of ACL, and I think that it is entirely fair and proper for the council to be challenged in regard to it. That's the way that the law works and our opinions as to the merits of the case are just that, opinions.
This legal action in and of itself in no way prevents Wasps from dealing with CCFC. There is no direct threat to the Wasps deal for ACL here, it seems well accepted that it cannot now be unwound.
The fact that Wasps are refusing to talk to CCFC because of ongoing legal action against CCC suggests to me an unhealthy relationship between Wasps and the Council, one perhaps in which each side is offering the other favours for preferential treatment. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find that in any way acceptable.
I'd be surprised if it succeeds, but there clearly are some questions over the process followed for the sale and valuation of ACL, and I think that it is entirely fair and proper for the council to be challenged in regard to it. That's the way that the law works and our opinions as to the merits of the case are just that, opinions.
This legal action in and of itself in no way prevents Wasps from dealing with CCFC. There is no direct threat to the Wasps deal for ACL here, it seems well accepted that it cannot now be unwound.
The fact that Wasps are refusing to talk to CCFC because of ongoing legal action against CCC suggests to me an unhealthy relationship between Wasps and the Council, one perhaps in which each side is offering the other favours for preferential treatment. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find that in any way acceptable.
The issue for a company entering into naming rights will be the impact on their target market. They will have calculated the scale and value of any sponsorship or promotion. So is a stadium with a Div 1 or 2 football team of significant value over just sponsoring the shirts for a Premiership Rugby team? Probably YES.
No, you're not the only one. I am glad it's happening to hopefully get some facts out in the open.
Like where the council leader says they have nothing to do with Wasps stance over and over as they are separate, but then says if SISU pay them loads of money they weren't legally owed then he can "help".
I wasn't on about the money paid, it was about how he distanced himself from it when Wasps said they won't talk as if it was nothing to do with CCC but then jumped on it when asking for money acting like he can fix it all.
It was when he first came in, he said if legal action was dropped and all of the council's legal fees were paid he would help with the Wasps discussions. Previously he had distanced himself from them to say it was up to Wasps.
Don't get me wrong, if the judge says "pay £2m legal fees" then they should be paid. This was before anything was awarded.
