@richh87
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You're being an idiot.
Administrator meeting with sky blue trust tonight (1 Viewer)
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You're being an idiot.
Bluegloucester
New Member
Plank!..........
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
I thought the statement was odd "The meeting was positive and constructive with a willingness from both sides to continue dialogue and co-operation." followed by "After todays meeting with CCFC LTD administrator Paul Appleton and his team, the board members present left feeling totally frustrated and with grave concerns over the future of the club."
So to clarify we are positive, constructive but frustrated with grave concerns.
So to clarify we are positive, constructive but frustrated with grave concerns.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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So they all give their jobs up and share the membership fees all 2000 odd pounds? Brilliant
As to the threats where is the evidence why would they threaten you are you the only person on here that has a beef with the trust? No you're not!
I'm a member of the trust you show me that the trust have threatened you and I will leave the trust
TheParsonsHose
Member
I think this was to be expected AJ as soon as they put the CCFC ltd company up for sale and then advised they were not sure what was in it! I dont think any interested parties would buy a company without knowing whats in it although there probably is one company that knows for sure, now let me think who that could be.
A man that has said little in the last 6 weeks was hardly going to tell you much more last night but well worth a try.
LastGarrison
Well-Known Member
I'm sure you'll receive the stock anwer of "They are private messages" or "Let the person who sent them share them".
A lot of things can be said about the Trust but I struggle to believe that they send nasty (snigger) or threatening PM's!!
This infighting is all becoming a bit boring.....
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
exactly what i thought.. for a moment i thought that second quote was an old one relating to a diffrent meeting. jan maybe you can enlighten us , as those two quotes ( regarding the same meeting ) seem to be at odds with each other ?
NorthernWisdom
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It would be a slightly odd thing to do and I'm sure if it was true, the trust would be delighted with them shared so they could deal with it.
ashbyjan
Well-Known Member
No problem:
The first quote was one agreed jointly with Appletons PR man Paul McCarthy and as ever with these joint statements you have to have a bit of give and take and it comes out a bit wishy washy. The second one is what we actually felt as fans/Trust members after having a meeting where we were told little and most questions that were asked were met with "i am not at liberty to comment".
We wish to keep the door open so we can continue to communicate with Appleton in the hope that maybe some of what we say/ask/point out to him will permeate and have an effect - maybe a slim chance but one worth pursuing. No point in cutting your nose off to spite your face - even an ugly mug like mine!
Hope that explains it.
NorthernWisdom
Well-Known Member
Nothing forced you to agree one you didn't believe though? It looks a bit schizophrenic tbh, and just your own might have been better.
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DazzleTommyDazzle
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And this is such a serious issue, given that nothing else important is going on????????
NorthernWisdom
Well-Known Member
Me making a suggestion about their statements isn't exactly affecting the future of the club.
They can ignore me if they want to, or they might appreciate the feedback, the choice is theirs!
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
You have been making some educated. Well thought out reasoned arguments recently.
Don't ruin it with this drivel.
They are fans like you or me, with full time jobs bothering to get of their backsides and do something.
The pound as you are fully aware will be a token administration cost.
They will not be getting a single penny for giving up their time.
The more their membership grows the more we the fans have access to Tim, Mr Appleton and Mr Haskell.
Without this who do they address when they want to get feedback from the fans and send out a message.
DazzleTommyDazzle
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That is all true - but when you have people who are giving up their time to try to do something positive for the club, I find it disappointing that people feel the need to nit pick about such trivial matters.
Just my view.
i share your view. reactionary naysayers whinging and whining whilst doin diddly squat to actually benefit the club.
you're simply creating division amongst the fan base.
basically trolling.
lordsummerisle
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He hadn't been making some educated well thought out reasoned arguments lately at all.
It's just been drivel that you agree with, drivel nonetheless.
NorthernWisdom
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To me, media relations and statements are very important, so I offered my advice.
That's not the same as saying the trust are rubbish, they're a waste of space.
NorthernWisdom
Well-Known Member
noggin, where are you? ;-)
It's a difficult place they are in really I think, on one hand they have given a public statement that is not only spin but really an outright lie and thats something the fans have been subjected to for years, it sucks and we don't really want it from the people representing us. On the other hand if they don't play the necessary politics they might not get to play at all and that would be counter intuitive. So perhaps by allowing the public spin and yet still telling us how they really feel they have done the best with a bad situation.
I certainly agree with you that you had every right to question it though and that it does no harm to do so.
I was half way through a post that was mostly in support of your position, but your wish is my command.
*Cockney accent on*
Leave it out Dekker
*Cockney accent off*
DazzleTommyDazzle
Well-Known Member
Given the importance you attach to statements, could I suggest that you give a little more thought to your own, so that your helpful intentions are not so easy to misinterpret.
lordsummerisle
Well-Known Member
He'll be outside your kids school now!
NorthernWisdom
Well-Known Member
My concern would be you agree a statement and publish a contradictory one, you lose trust more than being straight with the administrator and saying that you can't agree to that, as that's not how you feel. It also makes your own position a little confused!
And I'd say in the current climate 'Administrator refuses to meet trust because they wouldn't agree statement' is more of a damning thing to hold around the administrator's neck than the trust.
In the interests of balance, at the beginning of this thread I supported them meeting the administrator without consulting members first, and given some of the earlier comments in this thread, I'll name and shame Michael from the Trust who when I contacted him, we may not agree on some things but he was polite, courteous, willing to engage and even if I disagree, left a positive impression, no abusive PMs here.
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torchomatic
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Exactly. One man's drivel is another man's gospel. One man's Fisher is another man's PWKH.
torchomatic
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While I see where you're coming from I thought the statement was odd. Read the first paragraph and you're dancing on the ceiling go onto the second and you're hanging yourself from it. I don't think it's "nit picking" to ask questions, is it?
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Generally depends on tone and context.
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
When you attack people who take time out voluntarily to help the club we all support.
It kinda discredits and weakens a lot of anything else you say.
True, and its perhaps the case the administrator would be more annoyed with what theyve done than if they were just honest in the first place. They've allowed him to say one thing and immediately said the opposite. That said it's likely he wont even notice. It was a difficult position they were in though and while I'd have prefered them simply to be honest im not 100% sure that is the correct option.
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
PGSM1 hasn't been helping out the club at all, has he? All he's done is slag off STH, the Trust and SISU. So why should you care?
The majority of what he writes is crap - yes, I realise I know what that sounds like coming from me - and abusive.
The majority of what he writes is crap - yes, I realise I know what that sounds like coming from me - and abusive.
lordsummerisle
Well-Known Member
Which is exactly what I was saying about pgsm, and you're agreeing with me!
have to agree im afraid.. i liked what the trust were trying do & stand for.. but that statement was odd to say the least & in addition to the above, id say it made them/us look weak. If you dont agree with a statement , then dont agree to it. and certainly dont agree to a joint statement & then make a singular one that says the opposite.
I understand the intentions .. to keep in the good books of the administrator for future meetings.. but i dont think that's even been achieved, as he will read the statement you put out.
And before people start jumping on the "why dont you support the trust & trust them in what they are doing" .. i do support the trust, and what they are doing.. and this is my feedback on what they are doing, which as a paid up member i think we should all be allowed to offer
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I'm a member too and to be honest this is my issue with the amount of unilateral decisions taken by the board because "no time".
Does beg the question can the board put out a statement that it seems a large majority of members disagree with.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I think people should remember the trust members are well meaning amateurs just like me and you just fans. Sisu/Appleton have confused everybody solicitors accountants ACL Council FL FA. Is it any wonder they came out of the meeting not knowing where they were?
They have been played by Sisu/Appleton why you may ask?
May I suggest that the fans were(wether members of the trust or not) were all starting to speak with one voice ie Sisu out not playing at avenue out of Coventry etc. Nobody was fooled by the Sisu survey/meetings and I'm sure that Timmy would have said "well done me old son you've earned your money putting those bastards in their place " Yes I'm sure Timmy is pleased that now there is more pressure on the trust shows what a HARD business man he is.
As for the trust members who attended the meeting I'm sure that ten minutes after coming out realised the mistake they made but that is what it was a mistake how many of us have never made a mistake(I know that there are 3or4 on here that haven't but the rest of us)?
There is only one organisation here destroying Coventry City and while they are here I will continue supporting the trust even if you dont STICK TOGETHER STOP THE INFIGHTING concentrate on the enemy in front of you not the friends that are with you.
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They have been played by Sisu/Appleton why you may ask?
May I suggest that the fans were(wether members of the trust or not) were all starting to speak with one voice ie Sisu out not playing at avenue out of Coventry etc. Nobody was fooled by the Sisu survey/meetings and I'm sure that Timmy would have said "well done me old son you've earned your money putting those bastards in their place " Yes I'm sure Timmy is pleased that now there is more pressure on the trust shows what a HARD business man he is.
As for the trust members who attended the meeting I'm sure that ten minutes after coming out realised the mistake they made but that is what it was a mistake how many of us have never made a mistake(I know that there are 3or4 on here that haven't but the rest of us)?
There is only one organisation here destroying Coventry City and while they are here I will continue supporting the trust even if you dont STICK TOGETHER STOP THE INFIGHTING concentrate on the enemy in front of you not the friends that are with you.
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