Even the ones in hospital, they don't need to test positive for it to be a covid death.
Not really. Doctors/morticians/whatever are capable of diagnosing without tests for all kinds of things and AFAIK the tests aren’t 100% reliable anyway, especially if asymptomatic.
And again, the exact cause of death for each person isn’t really relevant. It’s overall excess deaths.
In queues outside five guys by the looks of it
ONS has cause of death data:
Deaths - Office for National Statistics
There's a study here on how long people who died with Covid-19 would have otherwise been expected to live:
COVID-19 – exploring the... | Wellcome Open Research
Probably the easiest thing to look at is total deaths compared to previous years:
I made no suggestion the restrictions remain until there is a vaccine or that lockdown would continue for 18 months. I said social distancing might last all year (which is what has been mentioned) and questioned what that looks like while trying to get the economy going.
McDonalds, like pretty much everywhere else, closed voluntarily. Its all well and good people on social media being outraged that places like B&Q and Five Guys are reopening and asking why the government are allowing it. The government never stopped it in the first place.
Really shows the complete lack of common sense in many people. I like a burger as much as the next person but its not something I'd risk my life over.
I don't get why the police allow it if they are clamping down on people in country parks walking on their own?
Who thinks they must go and queue for a burger like that.
Agree, no ssue with them being open, but people need to adhere to the social distancing as much as possible (and stores should also be trying to enforce it, like the supermarkets are now doing)
Yeah the lack of clear cut guidance is remarkable. I wonder how much the drop in transmission rate is down the voluntary stuff? People keep asking me why I am still going to work. As you say though nothing to say most people can't. Government might have made a rod for their own back here as at some point they are going to have to say they won't pay for furlough of voluntarily closed places but then businesses who need to furlough people due to reduced demand will have to prove they need the support, load more admin.
Yep B&Q are, possibly what you can buy as well
But I'm fairly sure you can buy online with delivery too
Fairly sure there are certain construction jobs which could be safely carried out .
Not sure of obtaining materials from wholesalers though
That was what the stories regarding chris Whitty said.
Social distancing is what we are in now, this isn't a lockdown so no social distancing will not last all year
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Haha. I went No 1 all over a couple of days ago for the first time in my life.
This is a lockdown. There’s laws saying you can’t leave your house except for a few given reasons. That’s lockdown.
Social distancing is stuff like 2m apart when out, wearing masks, no contact deliveries, the stuff you can do without lockdown when life is carrying on as well as during lockdown.
I've got the Police Chiefs Council guidance for officers saved on my phone in case I get moaned at when I take the dog out (you're allowed to drive somewhere to walk the dog which people have been hassled over), and collected food from a takeaway is on the allowed list.
Its more that the lockdown has been badly implemented and mostly voluntary. We'll see more of this as more places decide to open back up.
I used to have a number 1 back in my yoof but not done it for a while and quite like it. No idea what number mine is, I think a number 2, ended up doing it with a beard trimmer.
You're playing with semantics.
Regardless of lockdown/social distancing definitions some measures will have to be kept in place to keep Ro at or below one. Yes, test and trace will help but we're never going to do that as effectively as China so some restrictions are likely to remain in place for sometime, as stated by Whitty and Sturgeon.
It’s more of a restriction of movement than a lockdown in the UK.
I’m not expecting to be able to visit home until next year, very challenging with family over, especially with parents getting older and my nephews growing up.
Apparently there's "no chance" measures will last that long so get your flights booked mate.
I see the CMO is talking about overall excess deaths, which would suggest by some estimates we are already at double the stated 20k “doing well” target.
I think that’s pretty conclusive evidence that my the governments own metrics we have not handled this “well”.
Potato potahto. It was widely reported as lockdown. Everyone calls it lockdown. It’s not particularly enforced, but it’s lockdown in our own way. When people say lockdown they mean the restrictions on their movement.
I think that’s pretty conclusive evidence that my the governments own metrics we have not handled this “well”.
Potato potahto. It was widely reported as lockdown. Everyone calls it lockdown. It’s not particularly enforced, but it’s lockdown in our own way. When people say lockdown they mean the restrictions on their movement.
I hope so but I the problem is going to be more from this end, I reckon. It seems like we are going to be restricted to staying with the region here for at least 2 months still, will get a weekend in Venice booked in though
Whitty said they are taking into account the mental health effects of restricted movement.
I'm not arguing with you on something that is freely available if you read passed the headline.
Bye
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Couldn't tell what?
I put a link up to how smokers look as though they have less chance of getting the virus. That is it.
Then your POV counts more than mine because you have a degree. Best thing is you don't know what qualifications I have as I don't keep mentioning them. I have never mentioned them once that I remember. And unlike yourself I have never said how much I earn either.
Is this now me being facetious?
I trust both ahead of Johnson. That man wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him in the arse.
All a bit weird to trust politicians on CV anyway as opposed to medical people.
