fernandopartridge
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TBH though, I've switched off on politics as parliament is in a sort of zombie mode at the minute and it's generally depressing anyway. Let's wait until Labour is elected and see what they come up with.
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fernandopartridge
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What would Labour have lost by telling Elphicke to get fucked?
They've recruited somebody who appears to think she and her family are above the law. It's just bizarre.
They've recruited somebody who appears to think she and her family are above the law. It's just bizarre.
This I agree with.
Skybluekyle
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In fairness, the British people have never gone to the polls to elect a Prime Minister, as the position of PM is an appointed position by the Monarch. The PM must keep the confidence of the House of Commons, as per the constitutional principle set down within the Bill of Rights 1689, Parliament is sovereign, but then the power is given back to the people as the people in the House of Commons are elected by the electorate via a General Election.
Guess that is the drawback of living in a Parliamentary system, but I would probably prefer that over living under a US constitution that can be interpreted by judges with their own political biases appointed by political figures, that requires supermajorities for amendments.
David O'Day
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That's been the policy and plans for a while now.
The opportunity to poke Sunak in the eye, and the chance to reach out to a type of voter who typically wouldn’t consider voting for Labour.
I personally doubt it will end up being worth it, but if you think the above is more valuable to you than whatever reputational fallout you’ll suffer, then there’s an obvious case for doing it.
David O'Day
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The limit I guess would be when you have convinced enough people who voted for them to vote for you that you win an election.
Politics is as you have been alluding like football and more specifically the FA cup. You get fuck all for not winning
fernandopartridge
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skybluetony176
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For anyone who is yet to twig why Elphicke is own goal
Labour should have been talking about how they’re 30 points ahead in the latest poll today. Tories should be explaining why they’re 30 points behind. Labour should be talking about their policy announcement today on the commitment to ban hire and fire. Instead they’ve created a vacuum where the only thing they can talk about is why they welcomed with open arms a far right Tory her own constituents wouldn’t trust as far as they could throw her. A complete own goal. Sunak has probably phoned Starmer to thank him.
Labour should have been talking about how they’re 30 points ahead in the latest poll today. Tories should be explaining why they’re 30 points behind. Labour should be talking about their policy announcement today on the commitment to ban hire and fire. Instead they’ve created a vacuum where the only thing they can talk about is why they welcomed with open arms a far right Tory her own constituents wouldn’t trust as far as they could throw her. A complete own goal. Sunak has probably phoned Starmer to thank him.
Ice cream and waffles Mmm sounds delicious!!
skybluetony176
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In which case they’ve re announced/re committed to it today to reassure unions who were worried that Labour were planning to water down plans to restore workers rights lost under the Tories. Either way it should have been a talking point on the media rounds, it wasn’t because of the Elphicke vacuum they’ve created.
duffer
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In fairness, the unions don't seem entirely convinced that Starmer isn't already backtracking on the workers' rights thing. Maybe he'd rather people weren't talking about it.
Whenever I hear a Starmer "pledge", I find myself thinking of the Pirates' Code...
Labour vows to ban fire and rehire after war of words with unions
Exclusive: plans revealed in new leaked dossier sent to unions ahead of crunch meeting with Keir Starmer
chiefdave
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Struggle to see the positives in admitting someone to the party who has to issue an apology on their first full day on the job
Not sure there's a significant amount of people who have zero interest in politics yet would have registered, and acted on, her defection but won't see the negative headlines and social media posts
Natalie Elphicke apologises for comments about ex-husband's victims
Some Labour MPs have raised concerns about the comments after the Dover MP defected to the party.
www.bbc.co.uk
Tbh I think poking him in the eye is probably one of the biggest motivating factors for swing voters right now
shmmeee
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Yes because the Sun and CCHQ made it up and tried to make it a thing. She was being paid to take the party line, you for some reason are doing it for free.
Grendel
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So she was secretly a Labour activist but paid to write something she - given her obvious left wing credentials - felt obliged to write.
Thanks it’s making total sense now.
Grendel
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Sir Softie certainly isn't on the same level as Sir Beer Korma, or Sir Kid Starver.
Standards are slipping
Well maybe or maybe not but the last I saw Boris Johnson has not joined Labour. I’m sure if he was up for it he’d be there - hey that’s great politics right? (Well there is no left anymore)
skybluetony176
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I see Bill Cash had an interview to join Labour this afternoon
Erm. OK?
Brighton Sky Blue
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duffer
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Struggle to see the positives in admitting someone to the party who has to issue an apology on their first full day on the job
Not sure there's a significant amount of people who have zero interest in politics yet would have registered, and acted on, her defection but won't see the negative headlines and social media postsNatalie Elphicke apologises for comments about ex-husband's victims
Some Labour MPs have raised concerns about the comments after the Dover MP defected to the party.www.bbc.co.uk
I trust she'll now have the whip suspended (oo-err missus) for a year whilst an "independent" enquiry determines whether the apology meets party standards.
Grendel
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JAM See
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JAM See
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Grendel
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Im not voting it’s pointless and politics needs to change
jimmyhillsfanclub
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@JAM See You're clearly very passionate about this. what is your opinion on officially spoiling your vote?
I did ask you earlier in this thread (which prompted brief debate...see below) but you may have been on your hols....
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I did ask you earlier in this thread (which prompted brief debate...see below) but you may have been on your hols....
Do you want to discuss boring politics?
Grendel: 'you're so binary, you just think Labour is good, everyone else is bad' Also Grendel: 'haha look at you, you've voted for some different parties' You admitted at an age when most are at their most politically active you needed parent guidance. I was chairman of my course at that age...
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