Mediation talks underway

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  1. skybluetony176

    skybluetony176 Well-Known Member

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    Ate you expecting a SISU victory in JR2 then?
     
  2. KG7

    KG7 Well-Known Member

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    What about the land on the other side of the train track? That belongs to ACL doesn't it? Any reason why another stadium with academy can't be built there?


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  3. oldfiver

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    Better the optimist be !
     
  4. italiahorse

    italiahorse Well-Known Member

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    As I see it the legal battle will go on regardless of discussions.
    In fact I be pretty certain there might be legal implications if the parties are talking while legal battle is going on.
    Also would the legal battle be watered down if parties are talking outside th courts.

    For me (and Wasps) nothing can move on until the legals are out the way. The sooner they start the better and hopefully they can complete before the existing deal finishes.
     
  5. oldfiver

    oldfiver Well-Known Member

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    I did not mention legal costs and their avoidance by going to Butts and the article says "It is understood the Football League, Coventry City Council, and the football club’s parent company Sisu have agreed to take part in the process."
     
  6. oldfiver

    oldfiver Well-Known Member

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    You need to read up on the Court's current thinking on Mediations.
     
  7. oldfiver

    oldfiver Well-Known Member

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    Win or lose I bet WASPS would not want to be dragged into them
    Why make up things I have not said ?
     
  8. shmmeee

    shmmeee Well-Known Member

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    All this shit smack talk on behalf of rival news organisations makes me think of a low rent version of this:

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  9. oldfiver

    oldfiver Well-Known Member

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    Can the Council afford to fund them?
    Any way at the Council meeting approving the sale to WASPS, Lucas said WASP's would develop an Academy THERE not at Higgs
     
  10. Moff

    Moff Well-Known Member

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    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    That is the funniest thing you have ever posted, and that is saying something amongst your ramblings.
     
  11. Moff

    Moff Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you grow up and stop accusing anyone who disagrees with your turgid monotonies that they either agree with Tim or are a Sisu supporter.
     
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  12. skybluetony176

    skybluetony176 Well-Known Member

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    What have I made up? I asked a question, I didn't make a statement. The clue was the question mark at the end of the sentence.
     
  13. italiahorse

    italiahorse Well-Known Member

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    I know Sisu have read it. It's the one by Aesop.
     
  14. letsallsingtogether

    letsallsingtogether Well-Known Member

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    Just like everyone who hates sisu and backs the Ricoh being a Wasps fan.
    Fuck me I have even been accused of that a few times.
     
  15. Moff

    Moff Well-Known Member

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    No, just Italia. ;)

    Anyone who has accused you of being such was very misplaced.
     
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    letsallsingtogether Well-Known Member

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    That is the usual answer they throw at you when they have no answer or are against the wall.
    Nicks favorate comment:)
     
  17. skybluetony176

    skybluetony176 Well-Known Member

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    You best look at who's liked your OP ;)
     
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  18. Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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    Fucking Wasps fan
     
  19. Moff

    Moff Well-Known Member

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    Its for old times. We go back a long way to the long past of the CET forum. ;)
     
  20. dongonzalos

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    Like the idea of this but don't trust SISU to obtain the planning permission for 25k or even starting with 15k capacity.
    Two requirements I would hope would be demanded before anything happens.
     
  21. italiahorse

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    It's a statement based on Reid regurgitating the Sisu line after every headline and old fiver going along with it.
    Nothing to do about growing up although it is a bit monotonous you keep saying that rather than make your own contribution.
     
  22. Red House Coaches

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    I don't wish to p**s on anyone's chips (especially Mr Reid's), but if we are aiming to ground share at The Butts, the fact that CRFC aren't involved in the talks would seem a bit odd.
    Also, CRFC chairman Mr Sharpe clearly stated, in public and only a month or so ago, that there was "no way he would make any deals with SISU".
    Methinks this is a genuine attempt at mediation, which our owners are hijacking, as a smokescreen, to make it look like they are 'trying to find a solution' (yet again).
     
  23. stupot07

    stupot07 Well-Known Member

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    Neither of those statements are true.

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  24. Liquid Gold

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    Italia is only in it for his own financial gain and will twist any argument to suit his needs. Of all the people I disagree with on here, and there are many, his is the only opinion that can be disregarded. Especially when talking about wasps. Stick him on block as he is brilliant at taking a thread off track to defect negative attention away from his favourite London rooted sporting team.
     
  25. dongonzalos

    dongonzalos Well-Known Member

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    Most important point.
    How are the rugby club not involved.
    Also this has been leaked as it will become the whole agenda of tonight's meeting
     
  26. 1940oldfive

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    so which team are you going to kick out of the butts? has there are already three teams playing there,
     
  27. Sick Boy

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    Gilbert's story is about the franchise have to restructure their bond scheme.
     
  28. Sky Blue Pete

    Sky Blue Pete Well-Known Member

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    Easy to snipe from the sidelines. Decisions are made by those willing to turn up
     
  29. Captain Dart

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    Which was only a rehash of the Wasps Feb interim accounts with an opinion from this Carvell bloke about refinancing etc.
     
  30. Captain Dart

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    How on earth can Wasps finance their £7M barn thing? I think they have to find grants or a benefactor from somewhere.
     
  31. Grendel

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    You follow Gilbert on Twitter don't you? Suggest you tell him to stop making you look like an idiot by starting threads on here about absolutely nothing.
     
  32. oldfiver

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    Never had a pint of anything with Tim Fisher
     
  33. chiefdave

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    The original plan was to get someone else to pay for it via sponsorship. As work in it has now been delayed I presume they haven't been very successful finding a sponsor.
     
  34. oldskyblue58

    oldskyblue58 CCFC Finance Director

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    these starting requirements put forward - all stuff we can get behind

    • “Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.”
    • A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, groundsharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity.
    • A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility.

    Just to play devils advocate turn it around and consider what the response could be (not saying its my view, fact or what will be)

    “Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.” Well a good sentiment but what does it mean. Does it conflict with City of Rugby that CCC /CSF etc are invested in? Why would CCC tone down its support for Rugby or Wasps? What does CCFC offer that Wasps do not other than history & heritage? What are CCFC prepared to fund to achieve this? What are the CCFC plans and ideas that CCC could get behind

    "A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, ground sharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity" Show us the plans. Proof of funds. What are the infra structure improvements required. How much will it cost CCC. Why is it that option viable. What are the plans & commitments to rebuilding CCFC. How will it work between CCFC & CRFC how does CCC fit in. Timescales. How does it make CCFC better off

    "A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility." Is it viable. Can club afford Academy in L2. What is going to happen to the funds from sale of Ryton. What site has been identified. Proof of funds to build it. is anywhere suitable available/affordable

    Finally and probably vital is what are CCFC/SISU prepared to compromise on

    Given the very public stance of CCC and Wasps regarding no talks whilst legals are going on then I cant help thinking activating the JR2 now makes mediation cosmetic at this stage. But that's just my opinion
     
  35. dongonzalos

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    Thats all been leaked as it will be the mantra for tonight.
    Unfortunately the odd one will be taken in, not many mind but the odd one will.

    Hope the folks going tonight don't get fobbed off with this leaked story about mediation and

    CCFC want the council to put them front and centre
    Want the Butts to be their stadium option.

    Please point out the fact that SISU have changed this rhetoric so many times.

    Never return to Coventry
    Plan A new stadium Coventry area
    Plan A Long term at Ricoh
    Plan B new stadium Coventry area
    Plan B the Butts
    The preferred option is the Butts but there is another site identified.
    Plan A new stadium and training/ Academy facility.

    Why is your preferred option one that CRFC are saying they are not interested in?
    Where is your submission of planning permission for the Butts?
    With the apparent knock back at the Butts, why haven't you purchased the other land.
    If you went to the Butts you still need to build the separate training centre and academy so what have you not bought the land for this?

    The smokescreen has well and truely been set don't fall for it.

    How is MR going to get more funds next year when revenue will go down and you arevadament about breaking even?

    How have you repeatedly identified the wrong managers, could it be your decision making that is actually the problem not managers?

    Do SISU understand that by not breaking even and actually spending a relatively small amount next year we could have one of the best budgets in division 4. For once we would then raise revenue as oppose to cutting it to try and breakeven.

    What are your plans for raising revenue all you ever do is cut?
     
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