New Statement from SISU re. Council (1 Viewer)

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It's on the offal site.

NEWS: Club Owners SISU make statement following Coventry City Council media comments - News
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Coventry City Football Club Owners SISU have this evening made a statement following Coventry City Council media comments earlier this week.

The statement made by SISU is published in full below:

SISU notes the recent private briefing given by Councillor Duggins to selected media representatives.

Once again Councillor Duggins has made statements that are misleading. We set out below our corrective of what he has said:

Woodlands Site

  • The Woodlands site was originally suggested to us for CCFC’s Academy when it was being displaced from the Higgs Centre to make way for Wasps’ new training facility.
    When Wasps failed to progress their plans and the Academy was able to stay, we identified Woodlands as a potential stadium site for CCFC instead.
  • The mediation discussions in March 2018 focussed on the development of a stadium at the Woodlands site as a possible solution to the Club's home venue. Those discussions continued after the mediation. This is why it has not gone through the usual site selection methods.
  • We have repeatedly asked the Council if there are any other suitable sites for a stadium; none has been suggested. We are not aware of any.
  • Invariably, a development of this size and nature will have issues to overcome, hence our engagement of professional property and architectural advisors with significant experience in planning, development, and building sports stadiums.
  • Our discussions with the Council since March 2018 have been focused on two key aspects:
  1. in the Council's capacity as landowner, to understand if the site was available for a long leasehold, and
  2. in the Council's capacity as planning authority, to work with the Council to create a suitable planning application.
  • The Council has to date provided no indication as to whether it is willing to enter into a long leasehold agreement with us. This is crucial; there is no point progressing a planning application if there is no agreement in place for its sale should planning be permitted.
  • To avert the Council's evident (but inexplicable) historic animosity towards SISU and CCFC, our advisors liaised with the Council to advance discussions on agreeing a leasehold agreement for the site, and to provide us with planning expertise and advice for this specific site.
  • The property advisors and architects prepared 4 separate concept plans; 2 before the Council launched their consultation on education restructuring and 2 more recently integrating education on the site, the latter 2 having been submitted and discussed at a recent meeting. To prepare these required lots of preparatory work with our consultants.
  • We have attempted to work with the Council in order to integrate their educational aspirations on the site. Indeed several other stadiums have done this successfully: Saracens’ new West Stand will include space for Middlesex University; the new Bristol City stadium includes some purpose built classrooms; and Brentford Community Stadium’s plans include education space.

  • It will not however be possible for us to make any more progress with these proposals unless the Council works with us to achieve the desired outcome.

    Why is the Council so keen to discredit our proposal, when a stadium development of the kind we have proposed would be economically beneficial to the area, to the community, and would give CCFC a long term and financially secure playing future in Coventry?

    Why can a group of high level officers and elected members manage to meet on less than a day’s notice with selected media representatives; yet it takes months for them to meet with our advisors to review the plans with the aim of developing a full planning application?

    Councillor Duggins has refused to even meet with CCFC since December 2018, despite repeated requests to do so.


City of Sport 2019

Councillor Duggins rightly makes much of Coventry's selection as European City of Sport. He does not however mention that CCFC were specifically disinvited from the Civic Launch. Why go to such lengths to exclude the city's famous and high profile football club?
 
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It's on the offal site.

NEWS: Club Owners SISU make statement following Coventry City Council media comments - News
www.ccfc.co.uk
Coventry City Football Club Owners SISU have this evening made a statement following Coventry City Council media comments earlier this week.

The statement made by SISU is published in full below:

SISU notes the recent private briefing given by Councillor Duggins to selected media representatives.

Once again Councillor Duggins has made statements that are misleading. We set out below our corrective of what he has said:

Woodlands Site

  • The Woodlands site was originally suggested to us for CCFC’s Academy when it was being displaced from the Higgs Centre to make way for Wasps’ new training facility.
    When Wasps failed to progress their plans and the Academy was able to stay, we identified Woodlands as a potential stadium site for CCFC instead.
  • The mediation discussions in March 2018 focussed on the development of a stadium at the Woodlands site as a possible solution to the Club's home venue. Those discussions continued after the mediation. This is why it has not gone through the usual site selection methods.
  • We have repeatedly asked the Council if there are any other suitable sites for a stadium; none has been suggested. We are not aware of any.
  • Invariably, a development of this size and nature will have issues to overcome, hence our engagement of professional property and architectural advisors with significant experience in planning, development, and building sports stadiums.
  • Our discussions with the Council since March 2018 have been focused on two key aspects:
  1. in the Council's capacity as landowner, to understand if the site was available for a long leasehold, and
  2. in the Council's capacity as planning authority, to work with the Council to create a suitable planning application.
  • The Council has to date provided no indication as to whether it is willing to enter into a long leasehold agreement with us. This is crucial; there is no point progressing a planning application if there is no agreement in place for its sale should planning be permitted.
  • To avert the Council's evident (but inexplicable) historic animosity towards SISU and CCFC, our advisors liaised with the Council to advance discussions on agreeing a leasehold agreement for the site, and to provide us with planning expertise and advice for this specific site.
  • The property advisors and architects prepared 4 separate concept plans; 2 before the Council launched their consultation on education restructuring and 2 more recently integrating education on the site, the latter 2 having been submitted and discussed at a recent meeting. To prepare these required lots of preparatory work with our consultants.
  • We have attempted to work with the Council in order to integrate their educational aspirations on the site. Indeed several other stadiums have done this successfully: Saracens’ new West Stand will include space for Middlesex University; the new Bristol City stadium includes some purpose built classrooms; and Brentford Community Stadium’s plans include education space.

  • It will not however be possible for us to make any more progress with these proposals unless the Council works with us to achieve the desired outcome.

    Why is the Council so keen to discredit our proposal, when a stadium development of the kind we have proposed would be economically beneficial to the area, to the community, and would give CCFC a long term and financially secure playing future in Coventry?

    Why can a group of high level officers and elected members manage to meet on less than a day’s notice with selected media representatives; yet it takes months for them to meet with our advisors to review the plans with the aim of developing a full planning application?

    Councillor Duggins has refused to even meet with CCFC since December 2018, despite repeated requests to do so.

City of Sport 2019

Councillor Duggins rightly makes much of Coventry's selection as European City of Sport. He does not however mention that CCFC were specifically disinvited from the Civic Launch. Why go to such lengths to exclude the city's famous and high profile football club?
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It's on the offal site.

NEWS: Club Owners SISU make statement following Coventry City Council media comments - News
www.ccfc.co.uk
Coventry City Football Club Owners SISU have this evening made a statement following Coventry City Council media comments earlier this week.

The statement made by SISU is published in full below:

SISU notes the recent private briefing given by Councillor Duggins to selected media representatives.

Once again Councillor Duggins has made statements that are misleading. We set out below our corrective of what he has said:

Woodlands Site

  • The Woodlands site was originally suggested to us for CCFC’s Academy when it was being displaced from the Higgs Centre to make way for Wasps’ new training facility.
    When Wasps failed to progress their plans and the Academy was able to stay, we identified Woodlands as a potential stadium site for CCFC instead.
  • The mediation discussions in March 2018 focussed on the development of a stadium at the Woodlands site as a possible solution to the Club's home venue. Those discussions continued after the mediation. This is why it has not gone through the usual site selection methods.
  • We have repeatedly asked the Council if there are any other suitable sites for a stadium; none has been suggested. We are not aware of any.
  • Invariably, a development of this size and nature will have issues to overcome, hence our engagement of professional property and architectural advisors with significant experience in planning, development, and building sports stadiums.
  • Our discussions with the Council since March 2018 have been focused on two key aspects:
  1. in the Council's capacity as landowner, to understand if the site was available for a long leasehold, and
  2. in the Council's capacity as planning authority, to work with the Council to create a suitable planning application.
  • The Council has to date provided no indication as to whether it is willing to enter into a long leasehold agreement with us. This is crucial; there is no point progressing a planning application if there is no agreement in place for its sale should planning be permitted.
  • To avert the Council's evident (but inexplicable) historic animosity towards SISU and CCFC, our advisors liaised with the Council to advance discussions on agreeing a leasehold agreement for the site, and to provide us with planning expertise and advice for this specific site.
  • The property advisors and architects prepared 4 separate concept plans; 2 before the Council launched their consultation on education restructuring and 2 more recently integrating education on the site, the latter 2 having been submitted and discussed at a recent meeting. To prepare these required lots of preparatory work with our consultants.
  • We have attempted to work with the Council in order to integrate their educational aspirations on the site. Indeed several other stadiums have done this successfully: Saracens’ new West Stand will include space for Middlesex University; the new Bristol City stadium includes some purpose built classrooms; and Brentford Community Stadium’s plans include education space.

  • It will not however be possible for us to make any more progress with these proposals unless the Council works with us to achieve the desired outcome.

    Why is the Council so keen to discredit our proposal, when a stadium development of the kind we have proposed would be economically beneficial to the area, to the community, and would give CCFC a long term and financially secure playing future in Coventry?

    Why can a group of high level officers and elected members manage to meet on less than a day’s notice with selected media representatives; yet it takes months for them to meet with our advisors to review the plans with the aim of developing a full planning application?

    Councillor Duggins has refused to even meet with CCFC since December 2018, despite repeated requests to do so.

City of Sport 2019

Councillor Duggins rightly makes much of Coventry's selection as European City of Sport. He does not however mention that CCFC were specifically disinvited from the Civic Launch. Why go to such lengths to exclude the city's famous and high profile football club?

I really want this matter sorted, but when I see these statements and the suggestions made about the Council and their behaviour it infuriates me.
 

bradwellskyblues

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We have all complained about lack of information from sisu so let’s for once acknowledge they are now making an effort.
From my point of view they would not be doing this unless they were serious about a stadium
 
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How embarrassing, both the council and SISU. He said no she said, Neither appear to have CCFC in its best interest.

You can feel from all statements now its personal
 
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Dinner is in the day, just because you have moved to Eastern green it doesn't make it lunch now.

I was brought up in Eastern Green, and it was always dinner followed by tea, dinner ladies or not.

I now live in Earlsdon, so of course it's lunch and dinner.

Expecting to move back to EG in the next few months (oh look how far I've gone in life...), and I confess that I'm a bit nervous about what the naming conventions are.

Anyway, looking forward to the 8 min stroll to see the City.
 

Lord_Nampil

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sisus problem..... they dont talk to fans for a couple of years and now when they do explaining key information we have never been aware of before they get called stop the tit for tat statements.... the problem is the no show at the westminster meeting has obviously pissed off SISU as clearly they wanted to present this to the EFL with council in attendance! im guessing this was shared at the meeting but without the council it didn't have the same importance!

i guess this is why we are seeing a different approach from sisu now, they know to get there ideas and info across there position and actions have to change....

sadly we are in the middle with no say or influence on whats being done or said......
 

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What I find funny is. We have seen half arsed statements from the council with little detail or proof (at least nothing we haven't been known for years) where as sisu have provided evidence and gone into great detail whenever a statement has been made.
Only seems to be one side trying here and it isn't the one that is meant to have the interests of Coventry as a city at the heart of its interests.
 

ccfctommy

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Yawn. Statement FC. No accountability whatsoever.

Oh and it's dinner by the way.
 

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Obvious that ccc have sided with wasps to stop us playing at the Ricoh, and can’t see them saying “ of course you can have some of our land to build your new ground on” not defending the council but if they’re trying to get sisu to sell isn’t that what we all wanted, think that’s what their plan is ,We ground share for a couple of years hoping that sisu decide they’ve had enough Mr Hoffman and his friends step in and wer’e back at the Ricoh, bit ironic that sisu could stop the councils little plan by dropping the legals
 

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Obvious that ccc have sided with wasps to stop us playing at the Ricoh, and can’t see them saying “ of course you can have some of our land to build your new ground on” not defending the council but if they’re trying to get sisu to sell isn’t that what we all wanted, think that’s what their plan is ,We ground share for a couple of years hoping that sisu decide they’ve had enough Mr Hoffman and his friends step in and wer’e back at the Ricoh, bit ironic that sisu could stop the councils little plan by dropping the legals

Yeah until it backfires like it did with Haskell.
 

fernandopartridge

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Loads, it’s embarrassing how many people can’t see the council in a bad light
Because they all threw their lot in with the council, even believing shite like the Wasps deal happening in 6 weeks. To now question the council is an implicit admittance that it's never been as simple as hasty hedge fund tries to bully plucky council
 

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