Literally everyone has mental health. I think you mean mental ill health.
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Grendel
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I think its obvious what he means
Otis
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Makes a change.
covcity4life
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Yup but every kid thinks they are a doctor
The amount of kids tell me they have depression and then 2 days later they are fine. Because what really happened was they argued with a friend that day etc
Same with autism." I cant sit still sir it's cos I've got autism and that's why I swear at other teachers. "
"Have you been diagnosed?"
"No but I've got it."
shmmeee
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Oh definitely.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Once had a student who literally ate his own worksheet. Claimed he'd seen on TikTok that there was dietary fibre in it
Grendel
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This is rather offensive
Saddlebrains
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Never usually this late to the party Grendel everything alright?
JulianDarbyFTW
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I remember reading a fascinating article about the dancing plague, in which hundreds of people supposedly died due to a dancing frenzy
en.m.wikipedia.org
The modern-day explosion in the number of trans identifying people reminds me of this - it's a form of social contagion. There are some people who want to feel unique, or special, or have some attention or control in their lives, or feel that they are different and altering their gender may make them feel more 'normal'. A significant number are autistic or have other neurodiversities. Activists use violent rhetoric to persuade and influence and recruit, often targetting those with vulnerabilities, whilst also stifling debate on the issue. But there needs to be debate - there is a clear clash between women's rights and modern trans rights. I don't claim to speak for women on this issue, but my understanding is that 'old school' trans people were broadly accepted by women, whereas modern-day trans are not simply because a significant number do not appear to be anything other than chalatans roleplaying at being women rather than having true dysphoria.
Dancing plague of 1518 - Wikipedia
The modern-day explosion in the number of trans identifying people reminds me of this - it's a form of social contagion. There are some people who want to feel unique, or special, or have some attention or control in their lives, or feel that they are different and altering their gender may make them feel more 'normal'. A significant number are autistic or have other neurodiversities. Activists use violent rhetoric to persuade and influence and recruit, often targetting those with vulnerabilities, whilst also stifling debate on the issue. But there needs to be debate - there is a clear clash between women's rights and modern trans rights. I don't claim to speak for women on this issue, but my understanding is that 'old school' trans people were broadly accepted by women, whereas modern-day trans are not simply because a significant number do not appear to be anything other than chalatans roleplaying at being women rather than having true dysphoria.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Surely it should be called dance fever?I remember reading a fascinating article about the dancing plague, in which hundreds of people supposedly died due to a dancing frenzy
Dancing plague of 1518 - Wikipedia
The modern-day explosion in the number of trans identifying people reminds me of this - it's a form of social contagion. There are some people who want to feel unique, or special, or have some attention or control in their lives, or feel that they are different and altering their gender may make them feel more 'normal'. A significant number are autistic or have other neurodiversities. Activists use violent rhetoric to persuade and influence and recruit, often targetting those with vulnerabilities, whilst also stifling debate on the issue. But there needs to be debate - there is a clear clash between women's rights and modern trans rights. I don't claim to speak for women on this issue, but my understanding is that 'old school' trans people were broadly accepted by women, whereas modern-day trans are not simply because a significant number do not appear to be anything other than chalatans roleplaying at being women rather than having true dysphoria.
Grendel
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Yes fine - I just came across your comment and I disagree with it
Sick Boy
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I suspect in 20 years the same will be said about your last paragraph.
Saddlebrains
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Unfortunately
Grendel
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It’s the sweeping assertion that the condition - the actual condition - is some kind of mental health issue. That implies it’s something that can be treated.
Unfortunately it can not.
Where this whole thing falls down is the radicalisation of the movement
shmmeee
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I really doubt it TBH.
And gender dysphoria can absolutely be resolved or managed in many cases. The idea that it’s a “true trans identity” coming out and not a fairly normal part of growing up for a lot of gender non-conforming kids is a dangerous one IMO.
Nick
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Autistic girl who told cop she 'looks like my lesbian nana' arrested
A video shows two West Yorkshire Police officers in the hallway of the family's home in Leeds, while the girl sits in a corner next to a cupboard. A female officer with short blonde hair can be heard saying "she's going to be arrested"
www.mirror.co.uk
Sick Boy
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I’m more on about seeing it was a mental health problem.
Grendel
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From my admittedly limited sample size I saw the condition as not any different to being gay if you actually have it
It’s probably worse actually as it’s being trapped in a body that seems wrong. I witnessed pain, self loathing (lots of that) grief, frustration and anger on a fairly regular basis
This was a long time ago and I suppose things perhaps move on but I can’t equate what I see now to what I saw then. It all just seems a bit jolly and a game whereas in my experience it wasn’t
That’s why it irritates me when you see people what I see playing at something and conversely others branding genuine people as weirdos which just isn’t the case
Grendel
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I can fairly safely say as well he’d have been horrified at the thought of sharing spaces with women
It’s funny imagining his reaction to that in truth. He’d have been appalled at seeing naked women while he was a man and viva versa and he’d have respected their space. So again I just don’t buy this need.
It’s funny imagining his reaction to that in truth. He’d have been appalled at seeing naked women while he was a man and viva versa and he’d have respected their space. So again I just don’t buy this need.
shmmeee
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Almost every mental health condition these days seems to get this. A scroll through TikTok will find people playing at ADHD, autism, depression, DID, Tourette’s, all sorts. In the same way my bisexual daughter absolutely cringes at the people who make being LGBTQ their entire personality.
There’s a fine line between advocacy and … whatever the hell we’ve got.
Greggs
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Progress with Racism? It's as bad as ever thanks to the Press with their George Floyd agenda.
Grendel
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The amount of times I have started a post on this subject and deleted it is ridiculous
Fuck it - when at University I had a boyfriend who had gender dysphoria
There I have said it
Otis
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Fair play to you, Grendel.
shmmeee
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Ive had to say some stuff I’d perhaps rather not to be taken seriously on this too. Fair play.
Grendel
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Fair play to you, Grendel.
If there was ever sign of true love it was attending a warm up gig at the Trent Poly for Erasure
shmmeee
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In the words of Arctic Monkeys: proof that love is not only blind but deaf
harvey098
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Crikey, I also went to Henries and Dr Hayton was my physics teacher (whilst still David). I didn’t know her female name so just googled her thanks to your post. It’s quite confusing seeing her picture now looking like that but the only thing that matters is that she’s happier.
Grendel
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Shes not happy and regrets having it done
harvey098
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Ah that’s so sad.
Grendel
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The trans person I was referring to here was Hayton - the trans community hate her and her views
clint van damme
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There was a very good debate on 5live last Saturday night as well on, I think, the Stephen Nolan show.
Don't know if it's still available on iplayer.
