What can all of us do to help the club?

Discussion in 'Ricoh Row / Politics / SISU Section' started by skybluebeduff, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. dongonzalos

    dongonzalos Well-Known Member

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    What if they are new owners who can have a relationship with Wasps and the Council. A fresh start from someone who has not been caught up in any of the animosity and not involved in legal disputes.
    Who can deliver a long term commitment at the Ricoh with greater access to revenue and secure a site for the academy?
     
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  2. clint van damme

    clint van damme Well-Known Member

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    I think it does, to be honest, I don't know what would be best!
    But I certainly think what we do matters.
     
  3. Bruce the Boot

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    The point im trying to make , what ever we do wont influence Sisu ..
     
  4. Majik

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    There's an interesting white paper report released by the government in january this year, entitled "Government Expert Working Group on Football Supporter Ownership and Engagement", and media links to that had used CCFC as an example, so I think I'm going to peruse that to see if there's anything of interest. Here it is for anyone else that is interested (I'm hoping it comes up with a viable 50+1 method, should the opportunity arise...)

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...n-football-supporter-ownership-and-engagement
     
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  5. Senior Vick from Alicante

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    The club is locked into a downward cycle. The only way you could break it is if the owners suddenly decide enough is enough and sell. Buyers will only purchase if the price is rock bottom so this as we all know will not be entertained. The only other ways that I see it is if you generate more support to fund the team but that means investing and we all know the answer to that one as well. I don't think a complete withdrawal of support to starve them out would work either as they will only go when JR1 and 2 have run their course even if it means moving the club. Their will be a new beginning at some point in the future where a new owner engages with all sides and the fans to move us back up the league. The problem is that the fan base is so disenfranchised with all partys that their is a genuine lack of interest in uniting behind any banner. They have already had season ticket money so they will go to the end of this season at least, things will only start getting shitty when they have to negotiate over the stadium lease. Sisu see us as a toxic debt that has been ring-fenced to stop any collateral damage seeping into their other business. The club will live or die by its balance sheet at the end of their day and no matter how united we as a fan base are they will not give a shit. PUSB.
     
  6. Fergusons_Beard

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    Nah mate. You can't bring Germany into it.

    For a start the state subsidises football. That really does help 'community' owned clubs. (In Germany it's actually members).

    It would be like instead of supporting Olympians the National Lottery handing millions over to run lower league football clubs......


    In went in off Ferguson's beard....
     
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  7. Nick

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    And every club would need to do it
     
  8. robbiekeane

    robbiekeane Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree with this, exactly how i feel. But, unfortunately blind hatred stops people from seeing that.
     
  9. Johnnythespider

    Johnnythespider Well-Known Member

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    I think there is only one thing all of us can do, we need to flood the websites of CCC, Wasps, the telegraph, CCFC and sisu with pictures of our wives in their undergarments. It shouldn't take long for them a to sit down and sort this mess out under those circumstances. I nominate Bruce the boot to spearhead this campaign.

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  10. Ashdown

    Ashdown Well-Known Member

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    That would be about as much use as anything else !
     
  11. georgehudson

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    imho, the local papers & tv & radio are wary / scared of criticising our owners,
    for fear of having access severely restricted,
    like blackpool, portsmouth, leeds, etc.,
    this can be the only answer, e.g. when have the local media ever directly criticised them ?
    i & thousands of real supporters support the team thru thick & thin,
    the media meanwhile get splinters in their arse thru sitting on the fence,
    & then duck when the going gets tough
     
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  12. Gazolba

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    You can't get the fans united because there are too many different opinions. Just look at the threads on these forums.
    All fans can do is go to games and cheer on the team.
    Of course, half the team doesn't even belong to us.
     
  13. Brylowes

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    Whose wife or girlfriend is 'Bruce the Boot" :)
     
  14. Bruce the Boot

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    I want tobe Grendels girl I want tobe Grendels girl :) :)
     
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  15. ccfcway

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    ample threads on this. We cant agree on the best action, full house to show support, empty stadium to show annoyance etc etc

    We will just get lower and lower crowds as people walk away and do something less boring instead. Many, (including me) on here will go regardless of on the pitch quality or success, but many others will (and have) walk away.

    Personally I would empty the place for one game and pack it for the next (showing the full might of fan power). I would also pack a wasps game and sing the sky blues song throughout.

    None of those 3 will happen though
     
  16. georgehudson

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    i personally cannot understand why JS continues to have TF as part of the club,
    imho, & i reckon thousands of others,
    there would be a sizeable increase in interest & attendance should he be gone
     
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    rupert_bear Well-Known Member

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    I don't really know what is the best thing to do, I still think costing sisu hard cash and the only way I see for that is not going. But I fear relegation from this division because I don't think sisu will hesitate to put us in administration again, which would cost atleast 10 points and if in division 2 that could prove disastrous
     
  18. Brylowes

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    So we all agree, that we can't agree the best way forward for our poor
    Old club, trouble is it's pretty obvious that the people holding the reins
    Also have absolutely no idea what to do with us.
    It appears they have been out- manoeuvred, and now find themselves
    In control of something they only got involved with to gain access to the
    Main prize,
    Only to find the prize has already been handed out.
     
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  19. fernandopartridge

    fernandopartridge Well-Known Member

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    You tell me. The question about CCFC's predicament and the barriers that apparently exist to it prospering? What are they and how might they be overcome? German community owned clubs are not relevant in this context. Unless you know of a German football club currently renting its stadium and academy training ground from an expansionist franchise rugby club?
     
  20. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    In truth I guess you are something a celebrity. That was Dee Snider in the photo wasn't it?
     
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  21. skybluebeduff

    skybluebeduff Well-Known Member

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    That pretty much sums it up mate, looks like we're defeated fans.
     
  22. skyblueindorset

    skyblueindorset Well-Known Member

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    That's a bit harsh, G. Insulting the bloke's wife really isn't on.
     
  23. letsallsingtogether

    letsallsingtogether Well-Known Member

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    But how many are actually boycotting?
    The sad thing is that our support is dying more every season we stay in this league.
    God forbid should we get religated.
    I for one am slowly giving up. if I stop going it won't be due to boycotting it will be due to just had enough.
    And it is then an uphill battle getting old supporters back.
     
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  24. Grendel

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    I've had a PM from Dee saying it was hard on him.

    Can't win.
     
  25. skyblueindorset

    skyblueindorset Well-Known Member

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    I have to admit that this made me smile, G.
     
  26. tim07

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    The Sky Blue Trust need to organize. It will never have a say while it meanders around fidgeting, bickering and whingeing that the club's problems are down to conspiracies and lack of leadership by a rag of a Brummie newspaper.
    Campaign. Fundraise.Take ownership.


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  27. coop

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    Wasn't there more at the ricoh for a charity game the same day ccfc played the first game at northampton. Maybe something similar to catch media attention like no one going inside the ground for one of the stupid checkatrade competition games try and get the 9000 regular people to stand outside while the game is on can't see it working when a league game is on as the team need our support.Where has Hoffman disappeared to
     
  28. Gazolba

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    If CCFC disappear, there is always Cov United or Sphinx. They could rise up the pyramid. Look where FC United of Manchester are now. They are knocking on the door of the Football League. Of course something like that is a 10-20 year project
     
  29. tim07

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    True. But you'd think good news stories are clickworthy as well? I'm sure the Ladies team won the FA Premier League a couple of seasons back, after going something like 23 games unbeaten. Not one mention in the Telegraph all year, but I remember one Simon Gilbert having a twitter tantrum with them for having the timerity to ask for a mensh.
    No wonder it's sale of copy is near zero

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    When Seppala chooses to exit there will be a process to be followed. Her debenture charge against the club's assets means she can dissolve it out of pure spite.
    Don't let the SIAU apologists ever tell you otherwise!
    It's a moot point as to whether she will choose to do this rather than extract whatever she can by way of cashing in on the CCFC br a nd.
    In which case it may survive even if it means restarting at Midlands League level.
    We will still need someone who knows what they're doing to pick up the pieces, if there's anything worth salvaging.
    All speculation of course, but worth making preparations for.

    And I don't mean relying on the CT

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  30. stupot07

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    How are FC United knocking in the door of the football league?

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  31. tim07

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    They're knocking on the door of the Football League in the same way that SISU have the interests of CCFC at heart.


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  32. coop

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    I'd say Salford fc have more chance of getting to the football league.
     
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  33. letsallsingtogether

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    Organise what exactly?
    Keep hearing this but people have no suggestions on what should be organised, maybe they should have a Christmas party and we can all sit and debate what to do over a cracker.........
     
  34. Majik

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    Genuine question - is the SBT a campaign group?
     
  35. ricohroar

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    Wouldn't it be great (never gonna happen) if the whole of the footballing community in england united against commercial football? We see all the time prem supporters complaining about prices, others complaining about ownership etc. Be great to do something like United FC (or what ever they call themselves) get the top 20 biggest cities in England (maybe 4 from London) to put together a team of their best, even if all local non professional players, sort out a fixture list playing at home when the main teams away, rent the ground (or a near by cheaper one) take it back to the good old days, cheap entry to cover ground hire, no policing (might not work). Good old sing song and make it more popular than sky. They might take notice then... Like I said wont happen but wouldn't it be great.
     

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