Sky Blue Pete
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Most child sexual abuse gangs made up of white men, Home Office report says
Study of England, Scotland and Wales dispels myth of ‘Asian grooming gangs’ popularised by far right
Won’t fit some posters prejudice (1 Viewer)
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skybluetony176
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I’m just amazed Stephen Yaxley-Lennon hasn’t uncovered this in his investigations.
rob9872
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1) showing one set of cunts to be in greater number than another set of cunts is not an endorsement. Cunts are cunts whatever their background.
2) It's the Guardian so I'm not surprised to read that
3) we all know Robinsons real name, but I do find it strange that so many find the way to try and take the high ground is to use his real name. Criticise what he stands for by all means, otherwise it simply smacks of childlike desperation to constantly use it.
2) It's the Guardian so I'm not surprised to read that
3) we all know Robinsons real name, but I do find it strange that so many find the way to try and take the high ground is to use his real name. Criticise what he stands for by all means, otherwise it simply smacks of childlike desperation to constantly use it.
Sky Blue Pete
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The mail’s version
www.google.co.uk
Home Office finds child grooming gang offenders' backgrounds
A Home Office review into child grooming gangs has found offenders come from a diverse background - but poor data collection failed victims as it did not include characteristics including ethnicity.
Sky Blue Pete
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Independents version
www.independent.co.uk
Grooming gangs come from ‘diverse backgrounds’, says Home Office as review finally published
Report says that although high-profile cases involve Pakistani men, existing evidence does not prove a link to ethnicity
www.independent.co.uk
Otis
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Doesn't surprise me in the slightestMost child sexual abuse gangs made up of white men, Home Office report says
Study of England, Scotland and Wales dispels myth of ‘Asian grooming gangs’ popularised by far rightwww.google.co.uk
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clint van damme
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To be honest it shouldn't matter whether they're white, Brown, Black or whatever.
The police should pursue them aggressively and the courts should come down on them like a ton of bricks - vermin
The police should pursue them aggressively and the courts should come down on them like a ton of bricks - vermin
rob9872
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This! So much better than cheap point scoring for any agenda.
Ian1779
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There’s an entire political movement based on the cheap point scoring.... you know the ones saying we’re all trapped under Muslamic law.
rob9872
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And as if by magic, Ian appears with a political twist. Hopefully see you on the Huddersfield thread tomorrow (that's Coventry v Huddersfield in association football in case you'd forgotten whilst this place existed
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Ian1779
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And as if by magic you conveniently forgot your opening 3 point salvo.And as if by magic, Ian appears with a political twist. Hopefully see you on the Huddersfield thread tomorrow (that's Coventry v Huddersfield in association football in case you'd forgotten whilst this place existed
You may see me, or I may just concentrate on watching the game that I’ve subscribed to - unless of course it’s mandatory to justify where and how I choose to post and use this site
skybluetony176
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Not sure how addressing someone by their real name rather than their made up name can be described as childish. I stopped calling my mates by the made names we called each other at school around the time I reached adulthood. Pretty standard behaviour in the adult world.
rob9872
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Is it on ifollow too? Thought we had to watch through sky if it was on there. As much as Clive and Oggy are annoying I'd prefer them over probably Lee Hendrie or someone.And as if by magic you conveniently forgot your opening 3 point salvo.
You may see me, or I may just concentrate on watching the game that I’ve subscribed to - unless of course it’s mandatory to justify where and how I choose to post and use this site
rob9872
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I'll suspect you're inconsistent with that, particularly on celebs and only reserve it for ones you take a dislike to, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt
Ian1779
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Sky only works I believe when it’s Champions League nights I think...
Otis
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I think you mean Sharia Labeouf law
rob9872
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I thought we were actually on sky tomorrow though so I was more concerned if we'd have ifollow than sky.
Ian1779
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That’s a bonus then. So there appears to be no logic to when Sky give us the red button option.
SBAndy
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We’re not on Red Button, we’re on Sky Sports PL.
mark82
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I'll suspect you're inconsistent with that, particularly on celebs and only reserve it for ones you take a dislike to, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt
To be fair, Tommy Robinson is one of many pseudonym's he's used. His name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. That's the name used in his court cases. Not sure what is wrong with using it. It's a strange thing to fixate on.
Whatever you want to call him, he's a vile racist scumbag.
Nick
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Nonces are nonces regardless of colour.
Looking back when I was at school, you always had the girls getting picked up in cars who were going out with "older lads". Looking back now, it is a bit random why a 19-20 year old would want to go out with a 15 year old. Nobody really batted an eyelid then.
The article says under 30 as well which is surprising as you don't tend to "stereotype" that when you think of a dirty old nonce.
Let them all get a few hidings in prison.
Looking back when I was at school, you always had the girls getting picked up in cars who were going out with "older lads". Looking back now, it is a bit random why a 19-20 year old would want to go out with a 15 year old. Nobody really batted an eyelid then.
The article says under 30 as well which is surprising as you don't tend to "stereotype" that when you think of a dirty old nonce.
Let them all get a few hidings in prison.
Grendel
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Most child sexual abuse gangs made up of white men, Home Office report says
Study of England, Scotland and Wales dispels myth of ‘Asian grooming gangs’ popularised by far right
That’s a pretty odd article actually as it mentions Sarah Champion but not her campaigning and the reason she resigned from her shadow minister role.
NorthernWisdom
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Forum motto?
tbf, I can kind of understand that if you're an immature 19yo and a mature 15yo. I actually feel more uncomfortable with the 30yo going out with the 17yo kind of scenario, when you're definitely old enough to realise they're very young...
Half your age + seven is the rule, I believe
Nick
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Forum motto?
tbf, I can kind of understand that if you're an immature 19yo and a mature 15yo. I actually feel more uncomfortable with the 30yo going out with the 17yo kind of scenario, when you're definitely old enough to realise they're very young...
Half your age + seven is the rule, I believe
Mrs NW fresh from College then? ha
NorthernWisdom
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Back when I were in school, you'd have been a social pariah fraternising with somebody in the year below!
Grendel
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I'll suspect you're inconsistent with that, particularly on celebs and only reserve it for ones you take a dislike to, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt
Yes I’m sure he refers to Prince Henry all the time
pastythegreat
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That bloke (who's name i dont know or care for) that says Coven'ry. He did the checkatrade final commentary on sky. He annoys the fuck out of me.
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shmmeee
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Hmmm. Got to say something doesn’t sit right with me on this. Reading the report here: https://assets.publishing.service.g...nt_data/file/944206/Group-based_CSE_Paper.pdf
The takeaway seems to be all available data suggests black and Asian ethnicities are over represented, even though a plurality are white. But then says there are data collection issues. Well yeah, but the data we do have says one thing and there’s no obvious reason given to disbelieve it. Unless we assume that all the cases where offender ethnicity wasn’t recorded were white people, but generally you assume missing data acts the same as data you’ve seen unless you’ve a good reason to think otherwise.
When you’ve got a situation where there’s a feeling of political correctness coming before justice, I’m not sure it’s wise to keep plying the same rhetorical games. Honesty and openness needed here, not concern that the facts make a group look bad. If there is an issue in some communities we need to know so we can design interventions that work for that community.
The takeaway seems to be all available data suggests black and Asian ethnicities are over represented, even though a plurality are white. But then says there are data collection issues. Well yeah, but the data we do have says one thing and there’s no obvious reason given to disbelieve it. Unless we assume that all the cases where offender ethnicity wasn’t recorded were white people, but generally you assume missing data acts the same as data you’ve seen unless you’ve a good reason to think otherwise.
When you’ve got a situation where there’s a feeling of political correctness coming before justice, I’m not sure it’s wise to keep plying the same rhetorical games. Honesty and openness needed here, not concern that the facts make a group look bad. If there is an issue in some communities we need to know so we can design interventions that work for that community.
shmmeee
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Are there any other character actors you take offence at their real name being used over their stage name?
NorthernWisdom
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tbf, Thick Racist Git would be just as appropriate an identifier for Tommy Robinson.
shmmeee
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Fair enough, I think for me and likely some others there’s a refusal to engage in the make believe character being made up. Same for “Boris” TBH. Both have created a character that allows them a certain image they want. Refusing to play along is a way of saying “I’m not buying into that shite”.
Funny how I didn’t expect to be having a discussion about respecting people’s chosen identity on this side
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Yep. Spot on.
The "headlines" seem, shall we say selective, misleading perhaps?
I then double down on the doubt when I read that ethnicity data is missing....hhhmmmm.
shmmeee
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Yeah, here’s their issues with the data, which seem to rest on an assumption the Police are racist and don’t record white people and incorrectly record Asian people. The “they aren’t Asian they’re Afghani” bit made me laugh.
The outcome of this at best should’ve been “data collection is too poor to make a claim”, but even then they’d have to accept that several investigations have consistently found over representation for some groups.
I’d agree with their concerns on the data, but that doesn’t mean you can just go “racism” and assume completely different data.
I hope that there’s now proper data being collected and a proper report can be done.
