We are far from the finished article (3 Viewers)

[Otis]

TM's words after yesterday's defeat.

Though I am sure most of us would tend to agree with him, it is also very worrying for the end of the season isn't it?

Yesterday's team:

RCC

Ricketts Cargill Stephens Stokes

Fleck Vincelot

Murphy Madison Cole

Armstrong


Now look at that team post season.

RCC

Ricketts (will be 35) Stokes

Vincelot

Cole (will be 35)


That's just 5 of yesterday's team left. The others will all be gone.

My question is, if we are not the finished article now, haven't we got a massive job in the summer just to get back to where we are now?

I know there will be other loans, but when you think about it we didn't get Cole til October and didn't get Hunt, Cargill and Stephens until the January transfer window.

I think if we don't go up this season we will have a massive job on our hands to be competitive in League One next season.

If we go up, we will too, but we would then be looking for a better class of player anyway.

 

---

[Terry Gibson's perm]

TM's words after yesterday's defeat.

Though I am sure most of us would tend to agree with him, it is also very worrying for the end of the season isn't it?

Yesterday's team:

RCC

Ricketts Cargill Stephens Stokes

Fleck Vincelot

Murphy Madison Cole

Armstrong


Now look at that team post season.

RCC

Ricketts (will be 35) Stokes

Vincelot

Cole (will be 35)


That's just 5 of yesterday's team left. The others will all be gone.

My question is, if we are not the finished article now, haven't we got a massive job in the summer just to get back to where we are now?

I know there will be other loans, but when you think about it we didn't get Cole til October and didn't get Hunt, Cargill and Stephens until the January transfer window.

I think if we don't go up this season we will have a massive job on our hands to be competitive in League One next season.

If we go up, we will too, but we would then be looking for a better class of player anyway.

could easily be 3 with no Cole and Ricketts, that's where the talk of a two year plan is rubbish.

 

[Otis]

Agree. It is rubbish. It is start from scratch agian next season and it could well take 10-15 games for the new team to gel.

We were so lucky this season we came out and clicked straight off.

Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

We are far from the finished article and never will be as whenever we get near to it the loan players will leave or we will have a player to sell, long term at our club at the moment seems to be a couple of months.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Agree. It is rubbish. It is start from scratch agian next season and it could well take 10-15 games for the new team to gel.

We were so lucky this season we came out and clicked straight off.

Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk

It is, and as I mentioned on one of the other threads I think it comes down to team selection, especially of the attacking midfield three.

We started off with an extremely modest three of JOB, Maddison, and Lameiras. I don't think at the time we expected anything from them, and certainly the opening couple of games I was expecting us to get smashed. We didn't though, because these three players felt the had something to prove, they fought for everything and their passing interchange was intelligent. Players would make runs knowing team mates would try to find them and we ripped teams apart.

After time though, Lameiras started to get dropped, as did JOB occasionally and we saw the introduction of Kent and Murphy. Those two players didn't have the desire or ability to create for the team, or put in as much of a shift. I've always thought we've been less effective as a team with them in it.

Sadly these comments from Mowbray sound like a scapegoat for players not doing their jobs yesterday, which is ironically a bit Pressley esque.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It is, and as I mentioned on one of the other threads I think it comes down to team selection, especially of the attacking midfield three.

We started off with an extremely modest three of JOB, Maddison, and Lameiras. I don't think at the time we expected anything from them, and certainly the opening couple of games I was expecting us to get smashed. We didn't though, because these three players felt the had something to prove, they fought for everything and their passing interchange was intelligent. Players would make runs knowing team mates would try to find them and we ripped teams apart.

After time though, Lameiras started to get dropped, as did JOB occasionally and we saw the introduction of Kent and Murphy. Those two players didn't have the desire or ability to create for the team, or put in as much of a shift. I've always thought we've been less effective as a team with them in it.

Sadly these comments from Mowbray sound like a scapegoat for players not doing their jobs yesterday, which is ironically a bit Pressley esque.

Are you kok's twin brother? You love a long post that says very little

 

[Samo]

could easily be 3 with no Cole and Ricketts, that's where the talk of a two year plan is rubbish.

I think when TM talked about a 2 year plan he was talking about the club, not necessarily the squad.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Are you kok's twin brother? You love a long post that says very little

As opposed to a short post that says nothing?

 

[Otis]

Not as bad as people who don't properly finish off their sen ..

 

[mrtrench]

Are you kok's twin brother? You love a long post that says very little

Wow.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I think when TM talked about a 2 year plan he was talking about the club, not necessarily the squad.

He needs to worry more about the squad than the rest of the stuff.

 

[Grendel]

As opposed to a short post that says nothing?

Without murphys contribution we'd be in the bottom 6 - lameries is never going to make it as a footballer.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Without murphys contribution we'd be in the bottom 6 - lameries is never going to make it as a footballer.

Without Murphy's contribution in 30
Games, 5 of which were good, 20 of which he was the worst player on the pitch, and another 5 where he was average would not put us in the bottom six. He has been more damaging than good on the whole and we will be a better team without him in it overall.

That team that opened the season should have been left as it was.

 

[Grendel]

Without Murphy's contribution in 30
Games, 5 of which were good, 20 of which he was the worst player on the pitch, and another 5 where he was average would not put us in the bottom six. He has been more damaging than good on the whole and we will be a better team without him in it overall.

That team that opened the season should have been left as it was.

You've suggested we'd be better of with lameries - that shows you are incapable of a sensible debate.

 

[clint van damme]

TM's words after yesterday's defeat.

Though I am sure most of us would tend to agree with him, it is also very worrying for the end of the season isn't it?

Yesterday's team:

RCC

Ricketts Cargill Stephens Stokes

Fleck Vincelot

Murphy Madison Cole

Armstrong


Now look at that team post season.

RCC

Ricketts (will be 35) Stokes

Vincelot

Cole (will be 35)


That's just 5 of yesterday's team left. The others will all be gone.

My question is, if we are not the finished article now, haven't we got a massive job in the summer just to get back to where we are now?

I know there will be other loans, but when you think about it we didn't get Cole til October and didn't get Hunt, Cargill and Stephens until the January transfer window.

I think if we don't go up this season we will have a massive job on our hands to be competitive in League One next season.

If we go up, we will too, but we would then be looking for a better class of player anyway.

That's what I don't understand and what worries me. Whatever happens this season this team won't be together next season so there's no developing it.

We need a change of philosophy with regard to recruitment.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You've suggested we'd be better of with lameries - that shows you are incapable of a sensible debate.

Lameiras won't set the world on fire, but he'll work hard, not hog the ball, and try to create something with other players.

Yesterday he helped in starting the move which created our goal.
Murphy on the other hand, who was on the pitch longer than him actually helped assist one of Fleetwoods goals, so I'd say the debate was over before it even started.

 

[ccfcway]

To be fair, we also have Willis and Martin who would feature.

 

[Chipfat]

What are the reason's for Lamires to not make it as a footballer? you also do know he has already signed multiple pro contracts and already is a footballer.