The real issue... (4 Viewers)

[AFCCOVENTRY]

I believe the real issue is a combination of the players unable to adapt to Plan B and too many loan players.

The type of player we have at the club aren't fighters who can brawl it when necessary in a match. Too many of our players consider themselves as 'flair' players.

Mogga has mentioned many a time you need to adapt in a match scenario to switch to fight mode and not pretty passing. Sometimes we can't even pass like last night.

Henderson was taken on for this scenario I believe so maybe we need to see him starting. But with Cole, Maddison, Murphy, Lameiras, Armstrong etc they aren't battlers. Some of them need to put a shift in now.

The other issue and Mogga has also touched on this is the sheer amount of loan players we have. I believe we need our own players who are contracted for a few years here who play for the badge. Too many of these loan players are now beginning and its natural to look at why will happen when they return to their home clubs or eyeing up their next move.

I think we will be very very lucky to finish in the play-offs this year considering the alarming drop in form, and if we do I don't think there's enough bottle in this team to qualify. However, I do believe Mogga and he club will be in a much better position to be consistent at the top next year from lessons learned this season.

 

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[Otis]

Loan players can always prove problematic. Next season it will be almost like starting again from scratch.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

If you look at the team from last night how many players are contracted to be here next year 2 I think rcc and vincelot

 

[Nick]

I don't buy the "Where are they next season" things.

They are sports people, you would think it is in them to want to win at everything they do whether it is a match, training or a game of cards on the team bus.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

It is worrying that our only contracted players for next season are:

RCC
Stokes
Martin
Willis
Vincelot
Ruben

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

It is worrying that our only contracted players for next season are:

RCC
Stokes
Martin
Willis
Vincelot
Ruben

Is stokes I thought he only got a year

 

[chiefdave]

I believe the real issue is a combination of the players unable to adapt to Plan B and too many loan players.

Not sure about that. Its not like we're playing well and having attack after attack but teams are parking the bus against us. It does look like the same players. They seem totally disinterested.

 

[Calista]

I dare say this point has been made elsewhere, but I’d be interested in this season’s stats with & without O’Brien. He’s not the classiest player in the squad, but I think a lot of our early season success was helped by his willingness to run all day, and to constantly fire up the other players.

You can’t expect to simply play your way out of this league. Maybe TM is being too idealistic?

 

[Otis]

I dare say this point has been made elsewhere, but I’d be interested in this season’s stats with & without O’Brien. He’s not the classiest player in the squad, but I think a lot of our early season success was helped by his willingness to run all day, and to constantly fire up the other players.

You can’t expect to simply play your way out of this league. Maybe TM is being too idealistic?

Haven't got the whole stats, but just had a quick look back at the matches JOB played from Gillingham onwards.

Gillingham W
Doncaster D
Sheff U L
Oldham D
Chesterfield D
Walsall D
Southend L
Scunthorpe L (cam on at half time)

Don't think you can deduce anthing from that. There's 3 losses right there.

One thing I did notice though was the tendancy to play JOB a game and then rest him, then play him, then rest him. Maybe it's that, that was the bone of contention, who knows! Could be TM thought him not able to play a succession of matches in a row and JOB vehmently disagreed.

 

[no_loyalty]

Is stokes I thought he only got a year

Yes he only got a year deal, they need to offer him a new contract asap

 

[Calista]

Haven't got the whole stats, but just had a quick look back at the matches JOB played from Gillingham onwards.

Gillingham W
Doncaster D
Sheff U L
Oldham D
Chesterfield D
Walsall D
Southend L
Scunthorpe L (cam on at half time)

Don't think you can deduce anthing from that. There's 3 losses right there.

One thing I did notice though was the tendancy to play JOB a game and then rest him, then play him, then rest him. Maybe it's that, that was the bone of contention, who knows! Could be TM thought him not able to play a succession of matches in a row and JOB vehmently disagreed.

Cheers for doing the donkey work on that Otis – I was too lazy

So I’ll come up with another lazy theory – that the poor form is down to the loss of a series of dominant personalities at centre back (Johnson, Turner, Martin). Guys like that provide a platform for the team to play with confidence.

Whatever way you look at it we have fallen off a cliff, and let’s face it this is the third division we are talking about

 

[steveecov]

Got a feeling next year will be worse, whatever division we are in..