Player turnover (2 Viewers)

[oucho]

What do the players in the following list of 103 mostly journeymen have in common?

Aaron Martin (D)
Aaron Phillips (D)
Adam Armstrong (F)
Adam Barton (M)
Andy Rose (M)
Andy Webster (D)
Anton Robinson (M)
Baily Cargill (D)
Ben Turner (D)
Billy Daniels (F)
Blair Adams (D)
Byrn Morris (M)
Callum Ball (F)
Callum Wilson (F)
Carl Baker (M)
Carl Dickinson (D)
Chris Dagnall (F)
Chris Dunn (G)
Chris Hussey (D)
Chris Maguire (F)
Chris Stokes (D)
Chuba Akpom (F)
Cian Harries (D)
Cody McDonald (F)
Conor Thomas (M)
Cyrus Christie (D)
Danny Philliskirk (F)
Danny Pugh (D)
Danny Swanson (M)
Darius Henderson (F)
David Bell (M)
David McGoldrick (F)
David Prutton (M)
Denzel Slager (F)
Dominic Samuel (F)
Dylan McGeouch (M)
Franck Moussa (M)
Frank Nouble (F)
Gael Bigirimana (M)
Gary Madine (F)
Gary McSheffrey (F)
George Thomas (F)
Grant Ward (M)
Ivor Lawton (M)
Jack Finch (M)
Jack Stephens (D)
Jacob Murphy (F)
Jamar Loza (F)
James Bailey (M)
James Maddison (M)
James O'Brien (M)
Jamie Jones (G)
Jamie Reckord (D)
Joe Cole (M)
Joe Henderson (D)
Joe Murphy (G)
John Fleck (M)
Jordan Clarke (D)
Jordan Stewart (M)
Jordan Willis (D)
Josh McQuoid (F)
Kevin Kilbane (M)
Kevin Malaga (D)
Kyle Spence (M)
Lateef Elford Alliyu (F)
Lee Burge (G)
Leon Clarke (F)
Leon Lobjoit (M)
Luke Williams (F)
Marc-Antoine Fortune (F)
Marcus Tudgay (F)
Mark Marshall (M)
Martin Lorentzson (D)
Mathieu Manset (F)
Matthew Pennington (D)
Michael Petrasso (M)
Mohamed Coulibaly (M)
Nathan Cameron (D)
Nathan Delfouneso (F)
Nathan Eccleston (F)
Nick Proschwitz (F)
Peter Ramage (D)
Reda Johnson (D)
Reece Brown (D)
Reice Charles-Cook (G)
Richard Wood (D)
Romain Vincelot (D)
Roy O'Donovan (F)
Ruben Lameiras (M)
Ryan Allsop (G)
Ryan Haynes (D)
Ryan Kent (M)
Sam Ricketts (D)
Sanmi Odelusi (M)
Seb Hines (D)
Shaun Jeffers (F)
Shaun Miller (F)
Simeon Jackson (F)
Stephen Elliott (F)
Stephen Hunt (M)
Steven Jennings (M)
Stuart Urquhart (D)
William Edjenguele (D)

Answer - they have played in our first team since relegation.

This raises a few points:

1) turnover - no wonder we have found it hard to be consistent, we are averaging an average of 25 new players PER SEASON - partly this is a result of 4 permanent managers in this time, but that itself is part of the problem. I wonder how many other clubs have had player turnover at this rate.

2) how many of the players in tht list were actually much good? Half of them I can't even picture, now. This must raise questions over recruitment - we appear to have had a quantity over quality recruitment policy at times

3 ) most of the best players were either home grown - Turner, Maddison, Wilson, or have been allowed to leave at inopportune times or for less than we should have got for them. If we'd held onto the strongest players from this list, we could be on the cusp of the Premier by now. Instead, as Anderson implies, we have tried to bridge the gap in finances by accepting offers from other clubs - but this itself means we are unable to continuously improve the squad, meaning we stay in League One, meaning the deficit remains. If we held onto Maddison, Wilson, etc we may well be more profitable and have a stronger squad, and be much higher up the league ladder.

 

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[Liquid Gold]

averaging an average

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Shaun Jeffers never played for us in League 1. Cian Harries, Leon Lobjoit (released) and Joe Henderson (released) also haven't. Pretty sure Roy O'Donovan left the year before too.

Lawton, Spence and Lateef played in the JPT but not the league.

 

[no_loyalty]

I don't think Stuart Urquhart made any first team appearances?

 

[Nick]

Would be interesting to see the average for the past same amount of years for other L1 clubs to see how we compare.

 

[Otis]

I don't think Stuart Urquhart made any first team appearances?

As opposed to Peter Ramage, who made first team appearances but never played for us.

 

[no_loyalty]

Lee Carsley?

 

[skybluelee]

For the hell of it, the best side out of that lot;

Murphy
Christie, Turner, Pennington, Stokes
Baker, Fleck, Vincelot, Moussa
Wilson, Armstrong

Subs

O'Brien
Murphy
Maddison
Clarke
Martin
Reda
RCC

We'd have won the league already with that lot.

 

[superskyblue]

What's the best team you could make out of that lot?

Mine would be:

Murphy

Christie
Reda
Turner
Stokes

Grant Ward
Vincelot
Fleck
Moussa

McGoldrick
Wilson

That would get you out of this league no worries.

 

[ccfcway]

Lee Hughes ?

 

[ccfcway]

Lee Sawyer ?

 

[oucho]

Lee Carsley?

Nah, last game was when we were in the Champ, Sheff U home I think it was...

Shaun Jeffers never played for us in League 1. Cian Harries, Leon Lobjoit (released) and Joe Henderson (released) also haven't. Pretty sure Roy O'Donovan left the year before too. Lawton, Spence and Lateef played in the JPT but not the league.

This is first team appearances, including squad appearances i.e. being an unused sub as well as the JPT, which takes care of all except Henderson. I thought you were right but Soccerbase said he played for us once in 2012/13. Rod played a hanful of League games for us in league 1 including the MK Dons away game when he was subbed on around the time of Moussa's goal and Steve Elliot's only good game for us.

What's the best team you could make out of that lot?

Mine would be:

Murphy

Christie
Reda
Turner
Stokes

Grant Ward
Vincelot
Fleck
Moussa

McGoldrick
Wilson

That would get you out of this league no worries.

How about the worst team??

 

[oucho]

Lee Hughes ?

Lee Sawyer ?

This is the last 4 seasons only.

 

[ccfcway]

Lee Carsley ?

 

[ccfcway]

ah, relegation to League One !

 

[Gazolba]

What do the players in the following list of 103 mostly journeymen have in common?
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Reda Johnson (D)
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Answer - they have played in our first team since relegation

Reda has had so many parts replaced, he should really count for two players.