Cherry Tree Club? (5 Viewers)

[Otis]

On Go 2 I especially like Battery Brides and Red.

 

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[LB87ccfc]

Maybe you all need to meet down the cherry tree for a glass of red, eat your veggie soup whilst playing dodgy music in the background, very strange thread.

 

[Otis]

Maybe you all need to meet down the cherry tree for a glass of red, eat your veggie soup whilst playing dodgy music in the background, very strange thread.

Eh? You want us to wear weird jackets too?

 

[Samo]

It's good but more poppy than the first two albums. It is good pop though.

More commercial maybe; produced by Todd Rundgren and aimed at the US market. The band hated it at first (the arrangements, etc) apparently but loved it later. Lots of 60's influences on it I think, really great tunes. I remember being disappointed when I first played it because I loved the band so much and I didn't take to it, definitely a grower though.

 

[Brylowes]

Just been in the pub,whilst there a song came on the jukebox it sounded
kind of familiar so I went and had a look.
Towers of London.XTC . Don't think I'd heard it before.
Spooky.

 

[Samo]

Just been in the pub,whilst there a song came on the jukebox it sounded
kind of familiar so I went and had a look.
Towers of London.XTC . Don't think I'd heard it before.
Spooky.

Great tune that!
Ah you deffo belong in the CTC. No meat though!

 

[Brylowes]

So,can someone let me know,are the C T C gonna travel in numbers tonight.
If so I need to get meself down Matalan sharpish,get some proper lads
clobber.:thinking about:

 

[Samo]

So,can someone let me know,are the C T C gonna travel in numbers tonight.
If so I need to get meself down Matalan sharpish,get some proper lads
clobber.:thinking about:

First rule of the CTC... we don't talk about the CTC.

 

[The Gentleman]

How ironic that your username is the Gentleman.

Right, seeing as yours was the first reply. What are you assuming about me Otis? If I changed a few words in the first part of my post to things like uniform, regiment and killing people would you assume I was ever in the army? But because I've seen films, documentaries and read books on war and soldiers it allows me to have an opinion on said subject. I have never been in any of the armed forces.

 

[hill83]

Your favourite films are Football Factory and Saving Private Ryan?

 

[The Gentleman]

So its not about the fight but about goading people into a fight and then winning it? :thinking about:

Why should others have to deal with this. If I wanted to have a pint in the Cherry Tree on the way to the match surely I should be able to do that without worrying about it all kicking off? Hence my suggestion that if there are two groups who want to kick off with each other why not do it away from everyone else.

I just can't comprehend the idea of acting like that towards someone because they happen to support a different team.



There are plenty of things wrong with football but I would argue that hooliganism did a lot more damage to the game than anything in recent years. Just looks at how the attendances dropped off a cliff, we all ended up watching while locked in cages and weren't even trusted to play other teams in Europe.

Nice to see you do what the media does and takes snippets to suit your argument, but like you said yourself, you don't understand what you're talking about.

Unfortunately for people like you, most hooligans are also football fans and have a right to go where they want.

With regard to the last part of your post, hooliganism has never gone away and has been rife in the lower leagues all through the 80's and 90's when attendances dropped, it's just that it wasn't so called 'big clubs' doing it. Also, it just stopped being reported on as different governments had different agendas and things to occupy themselves. Hooliganism is still a problem today when attendances are up and there is still trouble in football grounds and just outside. But being a CCFC fan I guess I was also being specific in the last part of my post. So can you answer me a quick question, is that football hooliganism that's had a detrimental effect on our attendances in the last few years or the other people I mention in the last part of my post?

 

[The Gentleman]

Yep, well said.
The worst thing for me is The Gentleman's twisted attempt to endow mindless violence with some sort of nobility.
If that's what does it for you at least have the balls to be honest about what it is.

I was giving an opinion based on what I have said in my reply to Otis on the things I have read and seen. Tell me exactly how I was endowing it. And whilst we are on the subject of endowing, that's twice in above posts you've talked about penis size, are you sure it's not you with 'issues' on this?

Oh and if you feel so strongly, I wonder if you'll be popping down the Wheatsheaf on a match day as there's usually a good few in there and tell them how you feel about them. Now how can I put this, I'll just use your words, let's see if you have the balls.......

 

[Otis]

Is that right about the hooligans also being fans?

Not so sure. Some, yes, but I remember going to West Ham away and we were only separated by a net from them, so within about 10-15 feet and the vast majority of their fans there spent the whole game just staring at us and not watching the game at all.

Their heads were turned at 90 ° so not even facing the pitch.

 

[The Gentleman]

What mindless Neanderthal twaddle.

It's exactly your kind of moronic outlook that has reduced this country to what it is.

Grow up.

Ironic that you of all people should mention mindless twaddle. But yes, it's football hooligans that have reduced this country to what it is now. And again with regard to your other post, what are you assuming about me?

On a side note though, I hazard a guess that there are plenty of football hooligans far less retarded than some on here.

 

[Macca]

I was giving an opinion based on what I have said in my reply to Otis on the things I have read and seen. Tell me exactly how I was endowing it. And whilst we are on the subject of endowing, that's twice in above posts you've talked about penis size, are you sure it's not you with 'issues' on this?

Oh and if you feel so strongly, I wonder if you'll be popping down the Wheatsheaf on a match day as there's usually a good few in there and tell them how you feel about them. Now how can I put this, I'll just use your words, let's see if you have the balls.......

Unless there is a reputable away mob coming in which case it will be empty

What kind of challenge is that anyway. Go into a pub and upset a group of old men with anger management issues and fuelled up on booze? Given the number odds these people prefer why would anyone do that?

 

[The Gentleman]

That's the thing.

By all means have a scrap, but if there are innocent women, kids and blokes walking past they dont need to see it and get caught up in it.

I'm not endorsing hooliganism, just merely giving an opinion. But I wonder how people on here and the wider world break the speed limit. You see, far more innocent people get injured, killed and are affected by speeding vehicles than are by football hooligans yet I bet those people still break the speed limit.

 

[The Gentleman]

Is that right about the hooligans also being fans?

Not so sure. Some, yes, but I remember going to West Ham away and we were only separated by a net from them, so within about 10-15 feet and the vast majority of their fans there spent the whole game just staring at us and not watching the game at all.

I'll ask my question again, what are you assuming about me?

Their heads were turned at 90 ° so not even facing the pitch.

 

[Nick]

I'm not endorsing hooliganism, just merely giving an opinion. But I wonder how people on here and the wider world break the speed limit. You see, far more innocent people get injured, killed and are affected by speeding vehicles than are by football hooligans yet I bet those people still break the speed limit.

What a stupid argument, how many people die from rape? Must be fine then.

If you aren't endorsing it, you are doing a good job of trying without realising.

If people want a scrap, carry on just do it out of the way

 

[hill83]

The Gentleman is just windmilling now. Amusing though.

 

[The Gentleman]

Your favourite films are Football Factory and Saving Private Ryan?

I'll ask you about your earlier post about me too, the one where you call me a balloon (nice to see you're extending your vocabulary), what are you assuming about me? and no, they're not my favourites and quite frankly I would've thought a one trick pony like you would have come up with something better than that

 

[Otis]

My assumption was that you were appearing to condone football hooliganism.

 

[hill83]

I'll ask you about your earlier post about me too, the one where you call me a balloon (nice to see you're extending your vocabulary), what are you assuming about me? and no, they're not my favourites and quite frankly I would've thought a one trick pony like you would have come up with something better than that

Your explanation of what it means to have a rumble at a football match made me laugh.
If you genuinely were a gentlemen you would think these bellends were beyond comtempt.
You appeared to condone it. But obviously everyone misundertood, silly us.
You come across as a bit of a smug fucker who genuinely thinks he's above all of this forumming lark when you are as up to your neck in it as everyone else on here.
Now you are windmilling and using comparisons that don't work.
You are amusing.

Other than that you are fine by me.

 

[Samo]

It's not a 70's 'thing' and they're English lads not Polish or Russian tramps fighting in fields. You like to come across on here that you're quite clever but you obviously have no clue what you're talking about on this subject. Being a football lad isn't just about knocking seven shades of shit out of each other. It's not about rocking up in a field with 'team' t-shirts on. It's about mates brought together by a love for the club they follow, the clothes they wear, how far they can push it in other peoples towns, winning a battle on the day and then having a laugh about it later on, not letting other fans take the piss in their towns and cities and sticking up for what they believe in. Some of the mates you make stay with you for life and you know you can count on them whatever and you'd do the same for them.

Plenty of people don't understand but that doesn't make it bad or the people that do it monsters. There is far worse out there in football than hooligans I can assure you like crooked football owners, bent politicians and greedy businessmen who put profit before anything while we watch the game slowly die.

This is what I was referring to Gent, this romanticizing of violence. You make it sound like brothers in arms on the Normandy beaches! and 'sticking up for what they believe in' ? What does that mean? What do they believe in?

 

[tisza]

it's the association between hooliganism and love of a club that is laughable.

 

[Otis]

This is what I was referring to Gent, this romanticizing of violence. You make it sound like brothers in arms on the Normandy beaches! and 'sticking up for what they believe in' ? What does that mean? What do they believe in?

Well as it is not Jesus of Nazareth, I would guess it's Burberry of London.

 

[Samo]

it's the association between hooliganism and love of a club that is laughable.

What's really laughable is the fact that these little turds would piss themselves if someone really hard rocked up.

 

[The Gentleman]

Is that right about the hooligans also being fans?

Not so sure. Some, yes, but I remember going to West Ham away and we were only separated by a net from them, so within about 10-15 feet and the vast majority of their fans there spent the whole game just staring at us and not watching the game at all.

Their heads were turned at 90 ° so not even facing the pitch.

Oh so just one section of the fans in one part of a massive ground then, not fans all over the country?

 

[The Gentleman]

Unless there is a reputable away mob coming in which case it will be empty

What kind of challenge is that anyway. Go into a pub and upset a group of old men with anger management issues and fuelled up on booze? Given the number odds these people prefer why would anyone do that?

Unless you actually try it can you be 100% sure? I'm sure that there must be some that are ok?

 

[tisza]

What's really laughable is the fact that these little turds would piss themselves if someone really hard rocked up.

i do go back to the 70s and early 80s and remember teams like Man Utd, Arsenal, Leeds & West Ham bringing literally 100s of "hooligans" not these little groups of 10-15 that seem to be around these days.

 

[The Gentleman]

What a stupid argument, how many people die from rape? Must be fine then.

If you aren't endorsing it, you are doing a good job of trying without realising.

If people want a scrap, carry on just do it out of the way

I'm not condoning hooliganism, speeding or rape. I was merely stating an opinion after my experiences and saying what I've read about them on here. Next thing I know I'm being called all sorts because people are assuming something that I haven't actually said if you read it back. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of some on here getting their pitchforks out.

 

[The Gentleman]

My assumption was that you were appearing to condone football hooliganism.

So exactly where in my post did I actually condone football violence?

 

[The Gentleman]

Your explanation of what it means to have a rumble at a football match made me laugh.
If you genuinely were a gentlemen you would think these bellends were beyond comtempt.
You appeared to condone it. But obviously everyone misundertood, silly us.
You come across as a bit of a smug fucker who genuinely thinks he's above all of this forumming lark when you are as up to your neck in it as everyone else on here.
Now you are windmilling and using comparisons that don't work.
You are amusing.

Other than that you are fine by me.

I was just stating something from my experiences of it , nowhere in my post did I actually say I enjoyed it, or was involved or even condoned it. I was just saying that it's how they feel sometimes from my different experiences as I've said this morning.

Smug fucker....not me, just confident in my own ability and if you checked my posting history of recent and not so recent history I think you'll find that I'm not upto my neck on here (as you put it) unlike some on here, like there is nothing better to do. I dip my toe in once a week as I'm allowed as it's an open forum. Also, windmilling is something I'll leave to others, I'm just practising my right to answer what is being wrote about me

 

[hill83]

So exactly where in my post did I actually condone football violence?

If I copied the tone of your post but changed the premise of it to terrorism for example rather than football violence I'd be arrested.

Your post whether you meant it to or not reads like you are condoning it. You didn't actually write "I condone football violence" which I guess is what you are looking for out of Otis.
So I'll get the ball rolling, you didn't condone it.

 

[The Gentleman]

What's really laughable is the fact that these little turds would piss themselves if someone really hard rocked up.

Obviously not you then as you don't fancy popping in to see them to express your views, you'd just rather do it from the comfort of your keyboard. If you don't know them then how would you know they would shit it? Because if all hooligans were shitouts, how would they ever actually fight?

 

[hill83]

Obviously not you then as you don't fancy popping in to see them to express your views, you'd just rather do it from the comfort of your keyboard. If you don't know them then how would you know they would shit it? Because if all hooligans were shitouts, how would they ever actually fight?

Most of the lads in the Wheatsheaf are decent blokes. Not been in there this season, but I'd have no issue telling any of them that football violence is a bit silly.