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[Grendel]

I will, but I expect the usual few will deflect it down at the expense of the majority.
I do know via PM's to me that several people have given up posting on this board because of specifically you and a few others.
Lets see...............

Name some posters then who have given up posting because of Nick and "a few others" (including me no doubt)

 

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[Nick]

Name some posters then who have given up posting because of Nick and "a few others" (including me no doubt)

The thing is, I'd say it is more down to people getting tired of the SISU stuff in general.

Somebody starts a thread angry saying "SISU R SHIT, NOPM". It's not really a thread starter is it? All Italia says is "SISU need to go" over and over again.

When was the last SISU out chant? When was the last SISU out banner? Italia talks like it is every game, but it is surpressed from here. Have I missed the articles online about the protests happening?

 

[italiahorse]

Name some posters then who have given up posting because of Nick and "a few others" (including me no doubt)

The thing is, I'd say it is more down to people getting tired of the SISU stuff in general.

Somebody starts a thread angry saying "SISU R SHIT, NOPM". It's not really a thread starter is it? All Italia says is "SISU need to go" over and over again.

When was the last SISU out chant? When was the last SISU out banner? Italia talks like it is every game, but it is surpressed from here.

I'm sure they will appreciate the continued abuse once I tell you their usernames.

Edited quotes from the messages but typical of the messages received.

"I just wanted to send you a few words of encouragement, in your constant battle against a few hate-filled morons who seem to control this forum."

'I used to post on it. ............................................................. Grendel and another moron called sickboy seemed to be the prime movers, and Nick the administrator was happy to indulge them. '

'Little point in arguing with idiots. "

People don't stay and fight they move on and let the few win.

 

[covmark]

I'm sure they will appreciate the continued abuse once I tell you their usernames.

Edited quotes from the messages but typical of the messages received.

"I just wanted to send you a few words of encouragement, in your constant battle against a few hate-filled morons who seem to control this forum."

'I used to post on it. ............................................................. Grendel and another moron called sickboy seemed to be the prime movers, and Nick the administrator was happy to indulge them. '

'Little point in arguing with idiots. "

People don't stay and fight they move on and let the few win.

Haha haha fucking hell, it's like being back at school ffs.

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[Nick]

I'm sure they will appreciate the continued abuse once I tell you their usernames.

Edited quotes from the messages but typical of the messages received.

"I just wanted to send you a few words of encouragement, in your constant battle against a few hate-filled morons who seem to control this forum."

'I used to post on it. ............................................................. Grendel and another moron called sickboy seemed to be the prime movers, and Nick the administrator was happy to indulge them. '

'Little point in arguing with idiots. "

People don't stay and fight they move on and let the few win.

So were they well up there in the battle to get SISU out? Were they regular posters who suddenly stopped? Feel free to PM the users and it will be in confidence.

Answer the questions, you are bullshitting... When was the last SISU out chant?

 

[Grendel]

I'm sure they will appreciate the continued abuse once I tell you their usernames.

Edited quotes from the messages but typical of the messages received.

"I just wanted to send you a few words of encouragement, in your constant battle against a few hate-filled morons who seem to control this forum."

'I used to post on it. ............................................................. Grendel and another moron called sickboy seemed to be the prime movers, and Nick the administrator was happy to indulge them. '

'Little point in arguing with idiots. "

People don't stay and fight they move on and let the few win.

LOL you've made that up

 

[Grendel]

Has he deleted the exclamation marks to preserve Sky Blue John's anonymity?

 

[italiahorse]

Haha haha fucking hell, it's like being back at school ffs.

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It's called bullying mate. Not respecting other peoples opinions/sports and abusing them because they don't agree with you.

It's easy from the safety of a keyboard and in reality abuse is tolerated on this board because the administrator does not moderate it.
It's a decision he has made and we are all adults so their is nothing seriously wrong with it.

But in the end the board discusses the views of the bullies and the moderate views of the majority are not heard.
At that point it becomes what it is. A few of us throwing the same stones and nothing gets achieved.

 

[italiahorse]

LOL you've made that up

Nope. You get a mention.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Hate filled morons? Is that a bit like people who constantly look for a way to blame SISU? Or the people who refuse to attend because of SISU? Due to their hate of SISU?

 

[italiahorse]

Has he deleted the exclamation marks to preserve Sky Blue John's anonymity?

That comment was from a lady you abused.

 

[Nick]

It's called bullying mate. Not respecting other peoples opinions/sports and abusing them because they don't agree with you.

It's easy from the safety of a keyboard and in reality abuse is tolerated on this board because the administrator does not moderate it.
It's a decision he has made and we are all adults so their is nothing seriously wrong with it.

But in the end the board discusses the views of the bullies and the moderate views of the majority are not heard.
At that point it becomes what it is. A few of us throwing the same stones and nothing gets achieved.

So you are telling me that the people who sent you those messages are the majority?

What isn't moderated? A minute ago the site was administrated and you were trying to make out it's like North Korea, now it isn't moderated? Have you reported anything?

 

[SkyBlueZack]

It's called bullying mate. Not respecting other peoples opinions/sports and abusing them because they don't agree with you.

It's easy from the safety of a keyboard and in reality abuse is tolerated on this board because the administrator does not moderate it.
It's a decision he has made and we are all adults so their is nothing seriously wrong with it.

But in the end the board discusses the views of the bullies and the moderate views of the majority are not heard.
At that point it becomes what it is. A few of us throwing the same stones and nothing gets achieved.

Are you being serious? Someone mentions the 6 (might be yourself even) including Nick, Grendel etc. Now there is a lot more than 6 that don't like SISU and vent that. Off top of my head being LAST, BHSB, Tony, yourself, Shmee.

Do us all a favour and have a day off with your Wasps propaganda shit!

 

[italiahorse]

Hate filled morons? Is that a bit like people who constantly look for a way to blame SISU? Or the people who refuse to attend because of SISU? Due to their hate of SISU?

No, it's like being at a meeting where you have all the knowledge and because individuals talk louder and more aggressively you just sit back and let them get on with it.
The result is the meeting comes to a conclusion but it's not based on the knowledge within it.

 

[Nick]

That comment was from a lady you abused.

A lady on here? Are you sure you aren't referring to the Wasps fan on here who has used a woman's name and has / had duplicate accounts? The one who is very much a male. There are alerts about somebody with a Woman's name having duplicate accounts, their email address and website shows they are very much a man, and a Wasps fan.

Oh dear.

So what you are saying is, a Wasps fan is sending you PMs bigging you up? Is it anything to do with SISU at all?

There aren't many lady posters at all, so you narrowed it right down then

If it isn't the same user then I apologise, and if you want to report the threads where the woman was reported it will be looked into.

 

[Grendel]

A lady on here? Are you sure you aren't referring to the Wasps fan on here who has used a woman's name and has / had duplicate accounts? The one who is very much a male. There are alerts about somebody with a Woman's name having duplicate accounts, their email address and website shows they are very much a man, and a Wasps fan.

Oh dear.

So what you are saying is, a Wasps fan is sending you PMs bigging you up? Is it anything to do with SISU at all?

There aren't many lady posters at all, so you narrowed it right down then

If it isn't the same user then I apologise, and if you want to report the threads where the woman was reported it will be looked into.

LOL ha ha ha ha!

 

[SkyBlueZack]

No, it's like being at a meeting where you have all the knowledge and because individuals talk louder and more aggressively you just sit back and let them get on with it.
The result is the meeting comes to a conclusion but it's not based on the knowledge within it.

Does what I said not happen then? Are there people on here who refuse to go because of SISU who are vocal in their displeasure with SISU? Are there not people who blame our decline on SISU and not TM and the players? You don't half talk some nonsense.

All the knowledge? Are you now claiming to have all the knowledge?

 

[Nick]

Does what I said not happen then? Are there people on here who refuse to go because of SISU who are vocal in their displeasure with SISU? Are there not people who blame our decline on SISU and not TM and the players? You don't half talk some nonsense.

All the knowledge? Are you now claiming to have all the knowledge?

Of course there are, people are more than welcome to discuss what they want.

It is a forum, so people won't always agree.

I notice Italia moans about disagreeing and people being aggressive yet was all over the like button every time somebody said stuff about those who went to Sixfields. Some of it VERY aggressive.

CCFC fans can talk about what they want, Italia posts on here a lot about Wasps, SISU etc but nothing is deleted. It kind of throws his theory out of the window.

 

[Grendel]

Does what I said not happen then? Are there people on here who refuse to go because of SISU who are vocal in their displeasure with SISU? Are there not people who blame our decline on SISU and not TM and the players? You don't half talk some nonsense.

All the knowledge? Are you now claiming to have all the knowledge?

He thought Wasps accounts had been filed. They haven't

 

[italiahorse]

Does what I said not happen then? Are there people on here who refuse to go because of SISU who are vocal in their displeasure with SISU? Are there not people who blame our decline on SISU and not TM and the players? You don't half talk some nonsense.

All the knowledge? Are you now claiming to have all the knowledge?

I'm sure there are people that don't go because of Sisu. They might even want to go and use Sisu as the excuse. Who knows.

As for the decline.
IMHO TM if he had a choice would have his own players, not loans, youngsters and has beens.
So he is restricted by Sisu who say they are operating within a budget. A budget set at so many thousand attendees but strangely recently increased above our average attendance..
So I'm not sure if Sisu are restricting the budget or not. They are certainly not taking a punt.

It is not always the managers fault. In reality this season it is a bit of both.

 

[italiahorse]

Italia posts on here a lot about Wasps, SISU etc but nothing is deleted. It kind of throws his theory out of the window.

I never said posts were deleted.
I said people don't post because they get abused by a minority.

I also mainly respond to posts about Wasps started by others. Unless you only want mutual back slapping on inaccurate posts I shall continue to do so..

 

[italiahorse]

Are you being serious? Someone mentions the 6 (might be yourself even) including Nick, Grendel etc. Now there is a lot more than 6 that don't like SISU and vent that. Off top of my head being LAST, BHSB, Tony, yourself, Shmee.

Do us all a favour and have a day off with your Wasps propaganda shit!

So what are Sisu's plans for CCFC ?

What are the plans for our home for the next 10 years ? New Stadium or Ricoh ?
Effects things like making the Ricoh into our home as well and many things like memorial garden etc.
Are we getting ticketing improvements for next season or will it be the same again ?
Early bird prices, incentives to buy season tickets.
Will Sisu be continuing with JR2 on 'behalf' of CCFC after JR1 ?
Will be have a top 6 budget next season ? If not, CCFC are not planning to achieve promotion.
Disabled initiatives/representation ? Offered my help and input disabled friends/fans concerns but totally ignored other than several 'thankyou/get back to you' emails.

A lot of these concerns affect attendances and ultimately the quality of the football team, so should we be asking the questions?
Can't see it on here, can't see anything coming out of the various fans groups.

 

[Nick]

I never said posts were deleted.
I said people don't post because they get abused by a minority.

I also mainly respond to posts about Wasps started by others. Unless you only want mutual back slapping on inaccurate posts I shall continue to do so..

No you said the site was administered to be nice to sisu, but you just move the goal posts after making a silly statement.

You gave a pm from a wasps fan I think as your example, so nothing to do with sisu at all is it?

Inaccurate posts like you saying accounts filed?

 

[Nick]

So what are Sisu's plans for CCFC ?

What are the plans for our home for the next 10 years ? New Stadium or Ricoh ?
Effects things like making the Ricoh into our home as well and many things like memorial garden etc.
Are we getting ticketing improvements for next season or will it be the same again ?
Early bird prices, incentives to buy season tickets.
Will Sisu be continuing with JR2 on 'behalf' of CCFC after JR1 ?
Will be have a top 6 budget next season ? If not, CCFC are not planning to achieve promotion.
Disabled initiatives/representation ? Offered my help and input disabled friends/fans concerns but totally ignored other than several 'thankyou/get back to you' emails.

A lot of these concerns affect attendances and ultimately the quality of the football team, so should we be asking the questions?
Can't see it on here, can't see anything coming out of the various fans groups.

So make a thread then, the reason people haven't posted it is because the club need to be asked.

Nobody is censoring it, just nobody on here can answer them can they? I doubt the club can answer some of them. If fans groups aren't asking them, why's it just here being nice to sisu and administrated for them

 

[Moff]

I never said posts were deleted.
I said people don't post because they get abused by a minority.

I also mainly respond to posts about Wasps started by others. Unless you only want mutual back slapping on inaccurate posts I shall continue to do so..

Italia, only my opinion, but you may be taken a little more seriously if you dont make such sweeping statements, which are basically inaccurate, whilst chastising others for doing so.

For example I posted on the site in response, to a post you made, asking if the link you had given was to the actual accounts, or a financial staement. My post wasnt inaccuarte and was also asking for clarification.
I also noted correctly that wages and directors remuneration for wasps had doubled from 6 million to 12 million in one year, which I think was interesting and also quite a shock.

My post was neither incorrect, nor back slapping, and to ring fence all other posters, apart from those that agree with your line of thinking, as inaccuarte, is as inaccurate as the claims you make.

 

[Moff]

It's called bullying mate. Not respecting other peoples opinions/sports and abusing them because they don't agree with you.

It's easy from the safety of a keyboard and in reality abuse is tolerated on this board because the administrator does not moderate it.
It's a decision he has made and we are all adults so their is nothing seriously wrong with it.

But in the end the board discusses the views of the bullies and the moderate views of the majority are not heard.
At that point it becomes what it is. A few of us throwing the same stones and nothing gets achieved.

Bullying works both ways.

I have had an individual, and lets just say he sits in your camp, make some particularly unpleasant comments about me, because i had the temerity to dislike Wasps because of the move here, based on the franchise premise. He wasnt the first and wont be the last. The thing is I choose to stay on the site and not give up, its a personal decision and nothing to do with how the site is administered.

 

[lifeskyblue]

I do like the debate and the exchange of ideas on here...however there is a tendency for some to become either abusive or disrespectful. At times it appears this occurs because a person has made an outrageous claim that they cannot substantiate and therefore resort to abuse. Others have such entrenched views that they are too afraid to question their own version of the truth. Yet others just enjoy winding people up.
Yes I know it is a site for adults but all too often people on all sides of the argument behave like spoiled children or nasty vindictive trolls.


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[italiahorse]

No you said the site was administered to be nice to sisu, but you just move the goal posts after making a silly statement.

You gave a pm from a wasps fan I think as your example, so nothing to do with sisu at all is it?

Inaccurate posts like you saying accounts filed?

The accounts post was not meant to be inaccurate as it was based on reading the company website.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04187289/filing-history

I had also seen the actual copy of the accounts on the wasps website.

My interpretation was that it was. But hey abuse me for it.

 

[Nick]

The accounts post was not meant to be inaccurate as it was based on reading the company website.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04187289/filing-history

I had also seen the actual copy of the accounts on the wasps website.

My interpretation was that it was. But hey abuse me for it.

So when you patronise people about you having all the facts, and then get things wrong a fair bit do you wonder why it gets pointed out to you?

You were very quick to throw the "this site is administered for sisu" stuff which again you can't back up, but can't take it when people come back at you?

Getting very much like you're wasps buddies, no wonder they back you up via pm from their multiple accounts.

 

[Moff]

The accounts post was not meant to be inaccurate as it was based on reading the company website.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04187289/filing-history

I had also seen the actual copy of the accounts on the wasps website.

My interpretation was that it was. But hey abuse me for it.

Silly sausage!

 

[Grendel]

This thread should be re-titled - Italia enters the Guiness Book of Records for amount of times his pants have been pulled down in one thread.

 

[italiahorse]

So when you patronise people about you having all the facts, and then get things wrong a fair bit do you wonder why it gets pointed out to you?

You were very quick to throw the "this site is administered for sisu" stuff which again you can't back up, but can't take it when people come back at you?

Getting very much like you're wasps buddies, no wonder they back you up via pm from their multiple accounts.

At least when I made the statement I published the facts/links as evidence.
It's not an obscure statement.

IMHO I still think the site is biased towards Sisu. Probably based on the fact that there are more post on here slagging off Wasps, CCC and Higgs than Sisu.

I just want people to forget the past and try and get Sisu (and Wasps) to move us forward.

However on the odd occasion that I do speak to 'my' Wasps contacts they have not got a clue what Sisu plans are and give me the impression they are more of a hindrance to them than anything in respect to there long term aspirations. I feel they are just getting on with what they want and not considering us in anything long term. They do however say that they have a good working relationship with the football club.

I have no idea who these PM's are from as I don't pursue it.

 

[italiahorse]

This thread should be re-titled - Italia enters the Guiness Book of Records for amount of times his pants have been pulled down in one thread.

Are the accounts not with companies house then ?

I'd sooner post my thoughts based on documents I have seen rather than hang out of everybody's arse on a coat hook.

 

[Nick]

At least when I made the statement I published the facts/links as evidence.
It's not an obscure statement.

IMHO I still think the site is biased towards Sisu. Probably based on the fact that there are more post on here slagging off Wasps, CCC and Higgs than Sisu.

I just want people to forget the past and try and get Sisu (and Wasps) to move us forward.

However on the odd occasion that I do speak to 'my' Wasps contacts they have not got a clue what Sisu plans are and give me the impression they are more of a hindrance to them than anything in respect to there long term aspirations. I feel they are just getting on with what they want and not considering us in anything long term. They do however say that they have a good working relationship with the football club.

I have no idea who these PM's are from as I don't pursue it.

So you don't know who sent pms? You can't send anonymous pms. How did you know it was a woman?

A forum represents it's members, you just don't like that lots of people disagree with things you say. You didn't seem to complain about sixfields when more agreed with your views? Was it biased for sisu then?

You still haven't pointed out the recent sisu out chants or protests that are being censored?

Have wasps given sisu a presentation with their internal business plan? I doubt it.

 

[Grendel]

Are the accounts not with companies house then ?

I'd sooner post my thoughts based on documents I have seen rather than hang out of everybody's arse on a coat hook.

No they have not been filed with companies house.

Still I'm sure another wasps troll will PM you to say I am lying and you will swallow it.

Now you know the woman was in fact a man and a wasps fan with multiple accounts who saw you as a patsy they could use to spread their message you will apologise to me?