Grand National (4 Viewers)

[LB87ccfc]

Any tips for tomorrow.

Forgot this was on, and so onky managed to bet on the last race, had Kayf Grace 14/1!

I'm sure it will all go down hill from there!

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I had 20 on that too happy days yesterday over 400+ to go with the 650+ made at cheltenham.

 

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[LB87ccfc]

2.15 - BUVEUR D´AIR - Smashed in this morning to take on Limini will stay all day long now 7/4 was 5/2

2.50 -

BLAKLION - This horse has been well prepped 3/1 currently. 4.40 - BALLYDINE - 11/2 currently EW - Expected to run a big race 5.15 - Utility - 7/1 EW - ONeill Johnson Combo - Johnson won 4/8 in these type of races for the yard. As SBAndy said its a difficult day so wouldnt risk too much today.

 

[SBAndy]

The fact Limini is drifting doesn't really concern me. Seen plenty of occasions where a hot favourite drifts massively on the day and still beats the field.

 

[LB87ccfc]

The fact Limini is drifting doesn't really concern me. Seen plenty of occasions where a hot favourite drifts massively on the day and still beats the field.

Still very true, and I myself expect Limini to win, but two my tipsters are going against it today, and after their records the past 3 years at Aintree I am not one to argue, plus they make me hundreds a week, Will still have Limini incase though as more value in it now.

 

[SBAndy]

Had a forecast double on Limini/Buveur D'air and Vautour/Gods Own. Only a couple of quid.

 

[LB87ccfc]

Had a forecast double on Limini/Buveur D'air and Vautour/Gods Own. Only a couple of quid.

Decent bet to be fair.

 

[SBAndy]

Guess I should have been worried after all. No response when Ruby asked.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Native river lovely 8-1 wish I'd put more on now

 

[SBAndy]

Having an awful day. Final hope is Vautour/Gods Own forecast.

 

[SBAndy]

And Vautour falls, and Gods Own wins. This day is ridiculous.

 

[Grendel]

I tried. They weren't listening because they were dead.

Well your funny.

1.400 nearly since this website started.

http://horsedeathwatch.com

 

[SBAndy]

Well your funny.

1.400 nearly since this website started.

http://horsedeathwatch.com

Would you mind taking your preaching elsewhere, sir?

 

[Johnnythespider]

And Ballyoptic saves the day

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I had bellshill e/w as I have a friend that lives there

 

[Grendel]

Would you mind taking your preaching elsewhere, sir?

No thanks - the topic is the Grand National and that's what I'm discussing.

 

[chiefdave]

1.400 nearly since this website started.

Find that really shocking. That's over 150 a year just in the UK. Just googled a bit about it and it looks like you can treble that when you take into account deaths that don't occur during a race.

How is that allowed to happen with seemingly so little opposition?

 

[Grendel]

Find that really shocking. That's over 150 a year just in the UK. Just googled a bit about it and it looks like you can treble that when you take into account deaths that don't occur during a race.

How is that allowed to happen with seemingly so little opposition?

For one very good reason - money. It should be banned but Cheltenham is even worse.

The national is a disgrace as it allows far too many horses in the actual race many of which are totally ill equipped. It's far too long and many get withdrawn during the race and are shot afterwards.

The notion they are treated like kings during their career is crap as well. Most are destroyed or abandoned and all are condemned to 22 hours a day in a box rather than their natural environment.

It's a brutal brutal industry and the notion that owners and jockeys care about the horses is bollocks. They are generally a very unpleasant bunch.

 

[M&B Stand]

Weak Bladder 25/1......it'll piss it.

 

[Grendel]

Weak Bladder 25/1......it'll piss it.

Or the horse could go the same as one of these;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National

But hey who cares?

 

[Houchens Head]

Or the horse could go the same as one of these;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National

But hey who cares?

Is there a bookie that takes a bet on what horses will die in the National? I'll put a tenner on Red Rum!!

 

[Houchens Head]

My four E/W bets for tomorrow (with Ante Post odds taken):
Many Clouds @7/1
Boston Bob @ 25/1
Holywell @ 16/1
Silviniaco Conti @ 12/1

My Missus has (with Ante Post bets):
Many Clouds @ 7/1
The Druids Nephew @ 14/1
Saint Are @ 16/1
Soll @ 50/1

 

[Gazolba]

They just banned greyhound racing where I live, but it doesn't seem half as dangerous as horses jumping over obstacles.

 

[SBAndy]

Tomorrow I've got:

Holywell e/w
Saint Are e/w
Douvan/Thistlecrack/Silviniaco Conti win treble

Don't think Conti will win but he's one of my favourite horses so I'd kick myself if I didn't back him and he won.

 

[Gazolba]

Three horses killed already:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/horse-racing/35992129

 

[skybluejelly]

I have done

Gallant Oscar

Goonyella

But the wife has done creosote as she says it good over fences

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

I think Many clouds will win again so took 9/1 on bet 365 last night.
Also done
1.45 Rock the Kasbah@ 20/1
4.20 Cloudy Too@ 12/1
6.10 Automated@ 7/1.

Also done Saint Are ew@16/1,Hadrians Approach@ 66/1

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

I'm having a few quid each way on
On his own

 

[Houchens Head]

For one very good reason - money. It should be banned but Cheltenham is even worse.

The national is a disgrace as it allows far too many horses in the actual race many of which are totally ill equipped. It's far too long and many get withdrawn during the race and are shot afterwards.

The notion they are treated like kings during their career is crap as well. Most are destroyed or abandoned and all are condemned to 22 hours a day in a box rather than their natural environment.

It's a brutal brutal industry and the notion that owners and jockeys care about the horses is bollocks. They are generally a very unpleasant bunch.

How many boxers have died because of their sport? How many wrestlers? The list could go on. Oh, and don't say "They have a choice." Why do you think a horse will refuse a jump? Because it thinks "Fuck it. I can't be arsed!" And why do you think a horse will finish a race? Because it fuckin' LOVES it!

 

[Johnnythespider]

I think Many clouds will win again so took 9/1 on bet 365 last night.
Also done
1.45 Rock the Kasbah@ 20/1
4.20 Cloudy Too@ 12/1
6.10 Automated@ 7/1.

Also done Saint Are ew@16/1,Hadrians Approach@ 66/1

Many Clouds is out to 10/1 on 365 now.

 

[Johnnythespider]

I have backed
Many Clouds@ 10/1
Holywell@ 18/1
Unioniste@ 33/1
Wonderful Charm@ 50/1
The Mrs has backed
Morning Assembly@ 25/1 and
Rock the World@ 50/1
All E/W on bet 365 as you get half the stake back.

 

[Grendel]

How many boxers have died because of their sport? How many wrestlers? The list could go on. Oh, and don't say "They have a choice." Why do you think a horse will refuse a jump? Because it thinks "Fuck it. I can't be arsed!" And why do you think a horse will finish a race? Because it fuckin' LOVES it!

I knew someone would say that.

It shows that on the intelligence spectrum you are below a horse.

Always makes me laugh that someone would be so brain dead to think that.

 

[higgs]

Between both of ye ye will surely have the winner

 

[Samo]

It is disgusting and should be banned

Yup, exactly right. Cruel exploitation of beautiful animals.

 

[Sick Boy]

How many boxers have died because of their sport? How many wrestlers? The list could go on. Oh, and don't say "They have a choice." Why do you think a horse will refuse a jump? Because it thinks "Fuck it. I can't be arsed!" And why do you think a horse will finish a race? Because it fuckin' LOVES it!

Or perhaps because it is being beaten with a whip?

 

[Otis]

How many boxers have died because of their sport? How many wrestlers? The list could go on. Oh, and don't say "They have a choice." Why do you think a horse will refuse a jump? Because it thinks "Fuck it. I can't be arsed!" And why do you think a horse will finish a race? Because it fuckin' LOVES it!

Thing is, it has been proved that horses are not at all clever and will therefore more than likely do what they are forced to do.