Mean while back in court (20 Viewers)

[SkyBlueRuffian]

I might get some of these in bulk from china and sell them for the first home game!

Get a few thousand people in those!

Is that you Nick?

 

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[Nick]

Is that you Nick?

My mullet is real

 

[dongonzalos]

I might get some of these in bulk from china and sell them for the first home game!

Get a few thousand people in those!

Did we get told the decision would be a few weeks?

 

[Specs WT-R75]

Did we get told the decision would be a few weeks?

Yeah Tim said the court decision would be announced in 3 weeks.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Basically it's far from over whatever the result. If SISU lose I dare say that there's an appeal process through the European courts that they could pursue, if they win they'll be claims to pursue assuming that CCC don't appeal that decision if they have that option and that's before you even start to talk about JR2.

Basically I'd tune in this time next season and things might, just might be concluded. But I wouldn't bank on it. Where there's a lawyer there's a way.

There's one certain way that it won't go to European court....... Vote OUT on June 26th.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

There's one certain way that it won't go to European court....... Vote OUT on June 26th.

Was thinking that earlier throws that part of appeal in the vote is out.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Was thinking that earlier throws that part of appeal in the vote is out.

Edit.... I think that should be 23rd June... Not sure though

 

[fernandopartridge]

There's one certain way that it won't go to European court....... Vote OUT on June 26th.

Off the mark once again

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Off the mark once again

Why is that? If we leave, European law will no longer be valid in the UK.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

As the case was brought before any possible exit would it not have to be seen through to it's completion? Is state aid a British law or European? Even with an exit could you still apply to the European Court? Shame we don't have a lawyer on here to help. Apologies if there is.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

[h=2]Leaving the EU would give us more control of our own laws and regulations[/h]

• Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg are responsible for more than half of the UK’s legislation.
• The UK government was taken to court 23 times for failing to implement EU law between 2007 and 2011.
• UK influence inside the EU is dwindling. We currently have Less than 13% of the votes in the EU Parliament – when we first joined, we had almost 20%.
• The top 100 EU regulations cost the UK economy £33.3 billion per year. Since 2010, the EU has introduced over 3,500 new laws affecting British business.
• The EU has passed over half a million pages of law since its inception in 1957.

The UK currently has very little influence in the EU. It’s incredibly difficult to make changes, and we’re consistently outvoted in the EU Parliament. The same applies in the Council where the UK says "No" to EU proposals more than every nation but one.
More worryingly, EU regulations are transposed into UK national law without passing through Parliament - regulations which have proved incredibly costly for British business.
Leaving the EU would free Britain up from the masses of red tape dished out by Brussels, saving billions of pounds across UK industry (which in turn would mean lower prices for consumers).
What is more, it would give Britain back control of its own laws, which would ensure that our national parliament remains a genuine, legitimate and democratic force. The UK is one of the world’s oldest democracies, with a robust and mature legal system. Consequently, we believe that we should be free to have the final say over any laws that are implemented in our country.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Thanks for the campaign post lol.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Thanks for the campaign post lol.

Can you disprove any of it?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Thanks for the campaign post lol.

It's not a campaign post on behalf of anyone. It is a impartial report on what can/could be implemented if the UK leave the European Union Nothing more...Nothing less.

 

[Covstu]

Can you disprove any of it?

Maybe our laws are too mature or maybe outdated hence the need for change?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Why is that? If we leave, European law will no longer be valid in the UK.

We won't have left. We're only voting to leave which will really mean the start negotiations to leave. We're not suddenly going to be a non EU member on 24 June.

As for laws applying, lots of European law has been translated into British law. It won't just repeal. It will take a lengthy period of re-legislating.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Maybe our laws are too mature or maybe outdated hence the need for change?

Really!...I mean REALLY! Do you mean our laws are that outdated that we can't deport fucking terrorist scum back to face justice in their own Country??? Murdering bastards of innocent civillians can't be deported because QUOTE[ It impeaches their Human rights?!?!? UNQUOTE] Nothing personal Covstu.... but, FUCK OFF!!!

 

[fernandopartridge]

Really!...I mean REALLY! Do you mean our laws are that outdated that we can't deport fucking terrorist scum back to face justice in their own Country??? Murdering bastards of innocent civillians can't be deported because QUOTE[ It impeaches their Human rights?!?!? UNQUOTE] Nothing personal Covstu.... but, FUCK OFF!!!

The European Court of Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU.

 

[Philosoraptor]

The European Court of Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU.

Actually Theresa May in her wisdom has not ruled out leaving the ECHR if there is a no vote.

 

[Philosoraptor]

I think the problem here is not the laws but the separation of powers. Hobbes and Locke and all that.

 

[chiefdave]

As the case was brought before any possible exit would it not have to be seen through to it's completion? Is state aid a British law or European? Even with an exit could you still apply to the European Court? Shame we don't have a lawyer on here to help. Apologies if there is.

At a guess the law gets applied as it was at the time of the incident. That's what they do in our courts, hence you get some very odd sentences in historical cases, as they can only use the sentencing guidelines from the time of the crime.

If you bin the Euro court for any cases in progress wouldn't you also have to go back and undo previous cases?

When are we next in court anyway, lost track of where we're at.

 

[Brylowes]

Leaving the EU would give us more control of our own laws and regulations

• Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg are responsible for more than half of the UK’s legislation.
• The UK government was taken to court 23 times for failing to implement EU law between 2007 and 2011.
• UK influence inside the EU is dwindling. We currently have Less than 13% of the votes in the EU Parliament – when we first joined, we had almost 20%.
• The top 100 EU regulations cost the UK economy £33.3 billion per year. Since 2010, the EU has introduced over 3,500 new laws affecting British business.
• The EU has passed over half a million pages of law since its inception in 1957.

The UK currently has very little influence in the EU. It’s incredibly difficult to make changes, and we’re consistently outvoted in the EU Parliament. The same applies in the Council where the UK says "No" to EU proposals more than every nation but one.
More worryingly, EU regulations are transposed into UK national law without passing through Parliament - regulations which have proved incredibly costly for British business.
Leaving the EU would free Britain up from the masses of red tape dished out by Brussels, saving billions of pounds across UK industry (which in turn would mean lower prices for consumers).
What is more, it would give Britain back control of its own laws, which would ensure that our national parliament remains a genuine, legitimate and democratic force. The UK is one of the world’s oldest democracies, with a robust and mature legal system. Consequently, we believe that we should be free to have the final say over any laws that are implemented in our country.

This has been a "party political broadcast " on behalf of the 'Brexit Party'

 

[Philosoraptor]

At a guess the law gets applied as it was at the time of the incident. That's what they do in our courts, hence you get some very odd sentences in historical cases, as they can only use the sentencing guidelines from the time of the crime.

Nuremberg anyone?

 

[Brylowes]

It's not a campaign post on behalf of anyone. It is a impartial report on what can/could be implemented if the UK leave the European Union Nothing more...Nothing less.

LOL Impartial.

 

[Philosoraptor]

[video=youtube;ptfmAY6M6aA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA[/video]

Something very unsettling in Theresa May's thinking.

 

[DazzleTommyDazzle]

LOL Impartial.

Farage, Boris and Gove all said that it was impartial

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

LOL Impartial.

As opposed to Camoron saying "Everyone bend over and let Brussells F**k us up the a**e one more time?"

 

[Monkeyface]

So errrrr, anybody able to answer my question? I don't need any advice/opinion on the 'In v Out' argument, I'm pretty sure I know which way I voting! Thanks anyway.

 

[fernandopartridge]

As opposed to Camoron saying "Everyone bend over and let Brussells F**k us up the a**e one more time?"

I'm still undecided but this sort of hysterical nonsense makes me feel like the thinking person might opt to stay in.

On a tangible, practical level, how will Britain regain its 'greatness' post brexit?

Is this idea of greatness borne from the 1950s like most of UKIP's ideals or is there a plan beyond being outside the EU?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

My last post on this.... Just for balance as Nick would say......
Leave campaigners say: It would be a major shot in the arm for British democracy as the Westminster parliament regained its sovereignty and reconnected with voters. The country would be free from the European Arrest Warrant and other law and order measures.
Remain campaigners say: Britons benefit from EU employment laws and social protections, which would be stripped away. Withdrawal from the European Arrest Warrant could mean delays for the UK in extraditing suspects from other European countries; and the UK already has some opt-outs from EU labour law, including the Working Time Directive........... F**k me sideways!... We can't get rid of Anjem Choudary ffs! we've been trying for years but no, Human rights won't allow it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

My last post on this.... Just for balance as Nick would say......
Leave campaigners say: It would be a major shot in the arm for British democracy as the Westminster parliament regained its sovereignty and reconnected with voters. The country would be free from the European Arrest Warrant and other law and order measures.
Remain campaigners say: Britons benefit from EU employment laws and social protections, which would be stripped away. Withdrawal from the European Arrest Warrant could mean delays for the UK in extraditing suspects from other European countries; and the UK already has some opt-outs from EU labour law, including the Working Time Directive........... F**k me sideways!... We can't get rid of Anjem Choudary ffs! we've been trying for years but no, Human rights won't allow it.

Once again, the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Once again, the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU

Once again... Can't you read?

 

[SkyBlueZack]

I get your point about deporting terrorists, most people do. Human rights include freedom of speech and the right to have an opinion don't they? For everyone to be treated equally as a basic human right? As I said it's not entirely perfect but you must agree with the principle of human rights? The purpose behind it? Or would you rather live in a country like north korea? Unfortunately nothing in life is perfect and it's not always managed or regulated correctly but doesn't make it a bad thing.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I get your point about deporting terrorists, most people do. Human rights include freedom of speech and the right to have an opinion don't they? For everyone to be treated equally as a basic human right? As I said it's not entirely perfect but you must agree with the principle of human rights? The purpose behind it? Or would you rather live in a country like north korea? Unfortunately nothing in life is perfect and it's not always managed or regulated correctly but doesn't make it a bad thing.

What happened to Lee Rigby's "Human Rights?" The freedom to walk in the streets of Britain without fear of discrimination? (He was discriminated against for being a Soldier) What happened to the "Human Rights" of those murdered in 7-11?..... Quote[ Or would you rather live in a country like north korea? Unquote] If we carry on as we are I can see us living like that in the not too distant future mate.

 

[Hobo]

I get your point about deporting terrorists, most people do. Human rights include freedom of speech and the right to have an opinion don't they? For everyone to be treated equally as a basic human right? As I said it's not entirely perfect but you must agree with the principle of human rights? The purpose behind it? Or would you rather live in a country like north korea? Unfortunately nothing in life is perfect and it's not always managed or regulated correctly but doesn't make it a bad thing.

Bang on. People overlook how Human Rights protect ordinary people every day and everyday ordinary people have rulings in their favour. Instead people focus on the few rogue results the media choose to focus on.

The Hillsborough enquiry has taken years to see justice delivered, but it would not have got this far without Human Rights.