So , what are our owners going to do now ............... (2 Viewers)

dongonzalos

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That list does because its the latests accounts, not this years.

You have to factor in 3 clubs in the championship, plus you have others who had decent cup runs (Bradford), we were also in sixfields for 2-3 games and did a lot of ticket offers, and didn't really get thr commercial side goin

You're also ignore that not every club will spend the allowed 60%, so if we are usijg our 60% and others with higher turnovers a have a lower % wage to turnover than it is possible to have a top 6 wage bill.

If you want to discount that then, look how shocking it is that the likes of Fleetwood had a turnover just £200k less than ours despite have only a few thousand fans


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Need to wait till next summer to know then
Can't really compare like for like with teams from the championship
 

Bob Latchford

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There are 280 replies on this thread and , yet , no real replies on the question I originally asked .

This is exactly what went wrong with GMK . too much arguing , with each other. instead of keeping to the topic in hand .

No wonder the club is in a mess . when fellow fans can't debate in a grown up manner , on a CCFC forum .
 

stupot07

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There are 280 replies on this thread and , yet , no real replies on the question I originally asked .

This is exactly what went wrong with GMK . too much arguing , with each other. instead of keeping to the topic in hand .

No wonder the club is in a mess . when fellow fans can't debate in a grown up manner , on a CCFC forum .

There are a number of real replies on this thread. You obviously missed them or didn't like tbr answer.

Personally I feel no embarrassment to where we are, I don't like it, but I'm not embarrassed, and fair play to Leicester I have no issue with them winning thr league, Villa were always our biggest rivals in my eyes.

What will our owners do? They will continue to run us at breakeven so they don't lose anymore money, in the hope the TM can build something and get us promotion out of this league. They won't be throwing any more money at the club unless they have to fund losses, and they will continue to pursue their legal action in the background.

Oh, and What people do on a forum has no connection or influence to why the club is in a mess.

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Rodders1

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In reply to the OP..... The club needs to engage with the community. It simply has to get more bums on seats. This city wants a successful club, something to be proud of. SISU fails to recognise that once the fans believe in the club the momentum will build.

And the way to do that IMO is to spend some money - SISU show you care about the club/city/fans and then the fans will come back. It's the 8th biggest city in the country FFS.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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It depends what era you're from with regards to our biggest rivals. For me it has always been Wolves. You don't know what rivalry means till you've been in the "West End" when owners didn't have a "Jar of Glue" about segregation. Dustbin lids being used like frisbees, bike chains used to give hair cuts, etc. That is rivalry ;)
 

Sky Blue Kid

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In reply to the OP..... The club needs to engage with the community. It simply has to get more bums on seats. This city wants a successful club, something to be proud of. SISU fails to recognise that once the fans believe in the club the momentum will build.

And the way to do that IMO is to spend some money - SISU show you care about the club/city/fans and then the fans will come back. It's the 8th biggest city in the country FFS.

Don't say the dreaded words... You're about to get your nadgers chewed now ;)
 

Bob Latchford

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In reply to the OP..... The club needs to engage with the community. It simply has to get more bums on seats. This city wants a successful club, something to be proud of. SISU fails to recognise that once the fans believe in the club the momentum will build.

And the way to do that IMO is to spend some money - SISU show you care about the club/city/fans and then the fans will come back. It's the 8th biggest city in the country FFS.

We should have you stuffed ! a sensible reply , without the hint of a surreptitious nasty remark . well done sir ! I salute you !!
 

Nick

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There are 280 replies on this thread and , yet , no real replies on the question I originally asked .

This is exactly what went wrong with GMK . too much arguing , with each other. instead of keeping to the topic in hand .

No wonder the club is in a mess . when fellow fans can't debate in a grown up manner , on a CCFC forum .

There are lots of replies, you just dont like the answers because most don't agree with you.

Maybe you just didn't like GMK because people didn't agree with you?

Still waiting for you to backup your claims / accusations earlier in the thread.

Club in a mess because of a forum? No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise.
 

Nick

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In reply to the OP..... The club needs to engage with the community. It simply has to get more bums on seats. This city wants a successful club, something to be proud of. SISU fails to recognise that once the fans believe in the club the momentum will build.

And the way to do that IMO is to spend some money - SISU show you care about the club/city/fans and then the fans will come back. It's the 8th biggest city in the country FFS.

The club do a hell of a lot in the community and most of it goes un-noticed. I do still think they are missing things like OAPs in care homes etc that have I said a few times with little touches they can do that don't cost much but make a nice gesture.

It is all well and good saying spend money, but does the club have the money?

I am not too sure the city as actually that bothered about the club nowadays is it? Even before Northampton etc. The local media are bothered when they think they can get some clicks and sell some papers, I wouldn't say they are too fussed really either.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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There are lots of replies, you just dont like the answers because most don't agree with you.

Maybe you just didn't like GMK because people didn't agree with you?

Still waiting for you to backup your claims / accusations earlier in the thread.

Club in a mess because of a forum? No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise.

Like I said in another post "Hello Mr Superfan" Who made you judge, Jury, and executioner then?...... Just for the record, I've never bought "Knock off Club Merchandise" BTW, nice to see you've taken my advice... Started looking back more than one or two pages.
 

Nick

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Like I said in another post "Hello Mr Superfan" Who made you judge, Jury, and executioner then?...... Just for the record, I've never bought "Knock off Club Merchandise"

I have never claimed to be a super fan have I? There are plenty a lot more dedicated and lots who have to make bigger sacrifices than me to watch the team and fair play to them.

Earlier in this thread people got called Mugs for giving money to the club. Yet moan moan moan about money not being invested.

Just for the record, I don't think I have ever said you did?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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I have never claimed to be a super fan have I? There are plenty a lot more dedicated and lots who have to make bigger sacrifices than me to watch the team and fair play to them.

Earlier in this thread people got called Mugs for giving money to the club. Yet moan moan moan about money not being invested.

Just for the record, I don't think I have ever said you did?

Why act like a Superfan then?
My reply to your post was... Who made you judge, jury, and executioner with regards to not going to games. I added my two pennyworth and said I have never bought "Knock off Club Merchandise". Just letting those that have read your post know where I stand. Ok?
 
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Nick

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My reply to your post was... Who made you judge, jury, and executioner with regards to not going to games. I added my two pennyworth and said I have never bought "Knock off Club Merchandise. Just letting those that have read your post know where I stand. Ok?

Fine, but I don't think it has been insinuated that you did has it?

If people don't want to go to games then it is up to them isn't it. It is just a bit ironic they are amongst the first to moan about investment while they refuse to give the club money.

Refusing to go is different to not being able to isn't it? Just to clear that up.

Edit: I don't act like a superfan do I? I just find it very ironic people who refuse to give the club money are up in arms about investment. People who have no idea about the club's pricing, are up in arms about the club's pricing. Are people entitled to their opinion? Of course. Just let's not wonder why people disagree with it or point that out.
 

Rodders1

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The club do a hell of a lot in the community and most of it goes un-noticed. I do still think they are missing things like OAPs in care homes etc that have I said a few times with little touches they can do that don't cost much but make a nice gesture.

It is all well and good saying spend money, but does the club have the money?

I am not too sure the city as actually that bothered about the club nowadays is it? Even before Northampton etc. The local media are bothered when they think they can get some clicks and sell some papers, I wouldn't say they are too fussed really either.
That's the problem nick. What is it, 7-8 years of terrible leadership? The fans have gone. Not going back. So if they want to make a success of this they have to invest. Otherwise they need to pass the club to someone else who wants to. All the clubs we see getting promotions and doing well have investment. We can't simply operate within the ever decreasing circles until we get relegated again.

I'm sure a hedge fund has backers to pump money in. And it looks like FFP rules are nothing to worry about. Just look at Leicester, QPR, Bournemouth etc......
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Fine, but I don't think it has been insinuated that you did has it?
If people don't want to go to games then it is up to them isn't it. It is just a bit ironic they are amongst the first to moan about investment while they refuse to give the club money.

Refusing to go is different to not being able to isn't it? Just to clear that up.


Errm It was YOU who wrote that statement, and unless I'm mistaken it is aimed at EVERYONE that refuses to go to games!!! So I think that statement is indirectly aimed at me! Correct? Secondly, your final statement is just as inflammatory as "Having a go at those that have moaned about the "Faithful 1k going to Northampton, Ironic? MUCH!
 

Nick

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Errm It was YOU who wrote that statement, and unless I'm mistaken it is aimed at EVERYONE that refuses to go to games!!! So I think that statement is indirectly aimed at me! Correct? Secondly, your final statement is just as inflammatory as "Having a go at those that have moaned about the "Faithful 1k going to Northampton, Ironic? MUCH!

Who was I quoting and replying to when I said about Merchandise?

Seriously, read before you type.
 

Nick

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That's the problem nick. What is it, 7-8 years of terrible leadership? The fans have gone. Not going back. So if they want to make a success of this they have to invest. Otherwise they need to pass the club to someone else who wants to. All the clubs we see getting promotions and doing well have investment. We can't simply operate within the ever decreasing circles until we get relegated again.

I'm sure a hedge fund has backers to pump money in. And it looks like FFP rules are nothing to worry about. Just look at Leicester, QPR, Bournemouth etc......

Aren't bournemouth and leicester both under investigation?

While I agree, I'd love a Saudi prince to come in and treat us as his little bit of fun and do a man city. Would I complain if we start getting Champions league? Of course not.

At the minute though, I'd much rather the club be self sufficient then have to rely on SISU to put money in. Surely that also makes us look more appealing to potential owners?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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@ Nick..... Did you or did you not say this?........... "Club in a mess because of a forum? No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise." You are expressing how you think, on Club matters. Don't twist words in future, your starting to make yourself look like Grenduffy(Not a good sight)
I've never seen Grenduffy, or you for that matter, admit when they're wrong. Good time to start mate;)
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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@ Nick.... Before you say anymore, If I've been wrong and been shown where I've gone wrong, I've "Put my hands up"
 

Nick

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@ Nick..... Did you or did you not say this?........... "Club in a mess because of a forum? No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise." You are expressing how you think, on Club matters. Don't twist words in future, your starting to make yourself look like Grenduffy(Not a good sight)

Really? I have just sent you a PM to explain it, because I don't think you are following properly.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Really? I have just sent you a PM to explain it, because I don't think you are following properly.

I've seen the PM. Your answer to Bob's post is.... "No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise." You're definately portraying those words as your own. Grenduffy Mk2 you should call yourself. BTW, when have I ever said I "Prefer to wear suits?" Take the piss in the open forum mate, they can all see what a prick you are then!
 

Nick

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I've seen the PM. Your answer to Bob's post is.... "No, I'd say a bigger issue is people refusing to go to games and buying knock off club merchandise." You're definately portraying those words as your own. Grenduffy Mk2 you should call yourself. BTW, when have I ever said I "Prefer to wear suits?" Take the piss in the open forum mate, they can all see what a prick you are then!

You still dont get it.

Bob said that the forum is somehow making the club bad. So I said no, people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.

So let's break it down into facts

1. What is going to have more of an effect on a club? People refusing to give them money, or a message board?
2. this was said in reply to Bob, the same Bob who was on about buying cheap city shirts, and also calling people mugs for handing money over.

I tried to send you a PM to explain, but you just keep making your self look silly.

Do you really think a forum is a bigger issue for a football club than people refusing to go to give money to the club?

Stop trying so hard to somehow catch people out, as you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. It is you trying to be like Grendel, but failing miserably.
 

Bob Latchford

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So , after the toing and froing , the results are ...

The owners will continue as they have done during their tenure ,

Mugs will continue to be mugged off . and round we go .
 

Nick

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I've never seen Grenduffy, or you for that matter, admit when they're wrong. Good time to start mate;)

Show me where I am wrong then?

Is a forum more damaging to a club than people refusing to give money?

Again, you are trying to be clever but fail again.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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You still dont get it.

Bob said that the forum is somehow making the club bad. So I said no, people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.

So let's break it down into facts

1. What is going to have more of an effect on a club? People refusing to give them money, or a message board?
2. this was said in reply to Bob, the same Bob who was on about buying cheap city shirts, and also calling people mugs for handing money over.

I tried to send you a PM to explain, but you just keep making your self look silly.

Do you really think a forum is a bigger issue for a football club than people refusing to go to give money to the club?

Stop trying so hard to somehow catch people out, as you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. It is you trying to be like Grendel, but failing miserably.

No, it's you that doesn't get it. You are putting the blame firmly on the shoulders of fans that refuse to go to games. As for buying "Hookey merchandise" I personally have never, and would never do it. It's the open dig at your fellow fans about not going to games that pisses me off, and I'd suggest those others as well. You jump down the throat of anyone being derogatory of those that went to Northampton. (I'm going to do a you now).... Surely that is pot calling kettle Black? Or is putting money into Northamptons coffers Renting the pitch, paying for a new pitch being laid, etc, not the same as someone that refuses to go to games? We refused to go to games at the Ricoh because we don't want to give SISU our money. Why the fuck should we be expected to give Northampton FC money too? ffs!!!

 
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Nick

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No, it's you that doesn't get it. You are putting the blame firmly on the shoulders of fans that refuse to go to games. As for buying "Hookey merchandise" I personally have never, and would never do it. It's the open dig at your fellow fans about not going to games that pisses me off, and I'd suggest those others as well. You jump down the throat of anyone being derogatory of those that went to Northampton. (I'm going to do a you now).... Surely that is pot calling kettle Black? Or is putting money into Northamptons coffers Renting the pitch, paying for a new pitch being laid, etc, not the same as someone that refuses to go to games? We refused to go to games at the Ricoh because we don't want to give SISU our money. Why the fuck should we be expected to give Northampton FC money too? ffs!!!

Oh dear.

I was saying that was WORSE than a forum in terms of damaging the club.

The same as moving a club is more damaging than a forum, the same as most things are more damaging than posts on a forum.

Surely a fact isn't it?

You still don't get it, read it all back a few times.
 

Skyblueweeman

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No, it's you that doesn't get it. You are putting the blame firmly on the shoulders of fans that refuse to go to games. As for buying "Hookey merchandise" I personally have never, and would never do it. It's the open dig at your fellow fans about not going to games that pisses me off, and I'd suggest those others as well. You jump down the throat of anyone being derogatory of those that went to Northampton. (I'm going to do a you now).... Surely that is pot calling kettle Black? Or is putting money into Northamptons coffers Renting the pitch, paying for a new pitch being laid, etc, not the same as someone that refuses to go to games? We refused to go to games at the Ricoh because we don't want to give SISU our money. Why the fuck should we be expected to give Northampton FC money too? ffs!!!


Re: Merchandise, it was Bob at the start of the season who instead of buying official merchandise and putting money into the clubs coffers, bought an imitation blue and white stripped Nike top and put some CCFC patches on it.

Then Bob asks what our owners are going to do as if to stay, why can't we be like Leicester.

I would start by putting whatever you can into the club financially as it'll help TM (or whoever) build something worthy of promotion.

I've said many times before, I can only go to approx 5 games per season due to location, work, other commitments. Maybe Bob is a season ticket holder so puts more money into the club than me.

But if you're going to ask what our owners can do, maybe start by looking closer to home. That money is better in our pockets than elsewhere...
 

Sky Blue Kid

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people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.


I'll let you re-read your own words for a while.....
 

Nick

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people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.
people who refuse to go to games and buy knock off merchandise is a bigger issue.


I'll let you re-read your own words for a while.....
A bigger issue than what??? An internet site!!!

At least put in the full context

So you are saying it isn't?

Read it properly.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Re: Merchandise, it was Bob at the start of the season who instead of buying official merchandise and putting money into the clubs coffers, bought an imitation blue and white stripped Nike top and put some CCFC patches on it.

Then Bob asks what our owners are going to do as if to stay, why can't we be like Leicester.

I would start by putting whatever you can into the club financially as it'll help TM (or whoever) build something worthy of promotion.

I've said many times before, I can only go to approx 5 games per season due to location, work, other commitments. Maybe Bob is a season ticket holder so puts more money into the club than me.

But if you're going to ask what our owners can do, maybe start by looking closer to home. That money is better in our pockets than elsewhere...

Have a read of my post #306. I don't give a flying fuck what Bob said/did, but I do give a fuck what Nick has had to say. Anyone that spoke out about going to watch CCFC at Northampton were slagged off. What makes his statement "Beyond reproach?" Is it because this is his forum? if it is, he can shove up his arse.
 

Nick

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Have a read of my post #306. I don't give a flying fuck what Bob said/did, but I do give a fuck what Nick has had to say. Anyone that spoke out about going to watch CCFC at Northampton were slagged off. What makes his statement "Beyond reproach?" Is it because this is his forum? if it is, he can shove up his arse.
What are you talking about?

I think you don't understand still and you are making yourself look silly.

He said a website was one of the reasons the club was in a mess, I then said that not going to games and dodgy merchandise is a bigger issue.

It wasn't slagging anybody off, it is a fact isn't it?

Have a word. If you want to try and pull me up on things, read things properly first.

Hardly beyond reproach is it because you haven't read something properly. It's embarrassing.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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A bigger issue than what??? An internet site!!!

At least put in the full context

So you are saying it isn't?

Read it properly.

Ok.... I'll play it your way... lets see how many slaggings I get for this.... If I said......... Anyone that went to,and paid to go inside Northampton. You people along with SISU kept our Football Club away from it's natural home..COVENTRY. What will now be said? Tin hat on and retreats to bunker...
 

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