Nick
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Yeah the Poll is:
"I support the Ricoh belonging to:
Wasps
CCFC"
Which doesn't really make sense as I am pretty sure 99.9% would say CCFC.
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Yeah the Poll is:
"I support the Ricoh belonging to:
Wasps
CCFC"
Which doesn't really make sense as I am pretty sure 99.9% would say CCFC.
Who else has bullshitted? I think the other parties have been very open with their intentions and moved them forward.
They're not the intentions any CCFC fan wanted to hear, but I can't think of any specific lies being told by the other parties.
More than happy to be proved wrong though.
Otis
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Thanks, Nick.
Yeah, that is daft. That's almost like asking, would you rather be on the birthing table in hospital, entering this world and breathing your very first world breath, or would you rather be on your deathbed emanating your last gasp?
Astute
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Are you being serious?
If I wasn't getting the kids ready for school I could easily take the next 30 minutes making a list for you.
To make it easier you name a side that you say hasn't fed bullshit and you will get a list of it. The vast majority have not been blind to it.
hill83
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The kids can sort themselves out today. Get listing.
Nick
Administrator
I personally prefer Hill's question about saving mums.
Otis
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hill83
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Would you shag a goat but nobody ever finds out about it.
Or not shag a goat, but everyone thinks you did and calls you 'Goat fucker' for the rest of your life?
Nick
Administrator
I think it is a bit too early, but it involved asking if you would pleasure your dad to save your mum's life!
Otis
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Ooh tough one,but obviously no.
Otis
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If you get the name you might as well earn the fame.
hill83
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Ooh tough one,but obviously no.
So you'd let your mum die and deny your dad a free wank?
You animal.
Odd you decided to only quote one section of what I said considering I added I'm happy to be proven wrong.
So who else has bullshitted?
It's one thing people wording things in specific ways which have no substance - such as CCC's conditions of sale re Wasps.
But who else has told an out and out lie.
Astute
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So you are happy to be proven wrong but you don't want me to point out where you are wrong?
Otis
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Oh, I thought we were talking 'mouth.'
I don't mind tugging at people's heartstrings, so tugging my dad would be okay too I suppose.
So you are happy to be proven wrong but you don't want me to point out where you are wrong?
You've not given any examples, so not exactly sure where you've demonstrated your point.
Astute
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I said name one side that you think has been truthful and you will get some of the bullshit they have come out with. For example CCC asking SISU to put an offer in when the deal with Wasps was already done. Wasps saying they want to work with CCFC but are shafting us at every turn. Higgs being for the community but putting Wasps first.
Yes I can see why all sides have gone against SISU. But it doesn't mean they have been truthful and it doesn't mean that they have done the right thing.
Uummm, not so sure your examples demonstrate bullshitting.
CCC saying put an offer in wasn't bullshit, as SISU would have been able to - which they didn't.
Wasps offering to work with CCFC isn't bullshit, it's just appears it's not workable.
Again Higgs putting Wasps first isn't bullshit.
As I said above others have worded their intentions/offers in specific ways to allow themselves the 'well we tried' get out last lines - Fisher has just out and out bullshitted.
Do I agree with their actions? No.
Astute
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1, SISU did put a bid in.
2, Wasps stopping talks on a long term rental agreement unless SISU drop all legal action. You say it just appears that it isn't workable. I say Wasps don't want it to be workable.
3, You are right. Higgs putting Wasps first isn't bullshit. It is happening. Wasps are a London team. What has that got to do with helping Coventry and surrounding areas as they say their aim is?
4, Yes they have worded everything carefully so that the unwise and uneducated on what has been going on think it is all the fault of SISU.
I count myself as being unbiased. Nobody can say that I have supported SISU in any way. I have stated many times how I understand why different sides have done different things. I have called all sides out for bullshitting. And now I will be calling out all the sides against CCFC that are bullshitting us. And that isn't just because I want CCFC to survive.
georgehudson
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my personal opinion, for what it's worth, is that,
all persons involved in this dangerous wrangling are suffering from various degrees of megalomania (look it up in the dictionary if your not sure), and,
when the time comes for them to be close to meeting their maker,
someone might just utter,
'you can't take it with you',
it's well overdue for all to sit, talk, & move forward & elevate the City of Coventry
all persons involved in this dangerous wrangling are suffering from various degrees of megalomania (look it up in the dictionary if your not sure), and,
when the time comes for them to be close to meeting their maker,
someone might just utter,
'you can't take it with you',
it's well overdue for all to sit, talk, & move forward & elevate the City of Coventry
I still don't see how you've demonstrated the other sides have bullshitted.
They've played the system, they've used well constructed soundbites, they've looked after themselves at the detriment of others, they've only had money in mind, the have no concern for people's opinion/passion. Is that bullshitting?
Nick
Administrator
I think the whole ACL was washing it's face was a good bit of bullshit wasn't it?
It's insane to say that only CCFC have been guilty of bullshitting through all of this.
Astute
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OK back to the first one I mentioned. CCC said there was time for CCFC to put a bid in for the CCC share. And that it would be considered. Considered for what as the Wasps deal was already done?
torchomatic
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A goat and her twin sister with me just watching.
hill83
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I never thought I'd say this, but can I hear more from Torch please?
Nick
Administrator
The same as the whole "come and make a bid on the higgs 50%" stuff which actually, it was always 100% to Wasps.
Yep, the face washing was bullshit. As I said, happy to be proven wrong.
I've not once said CCFC have bullshitted.
Nick
Administrator
I'd happily say CCFC have bullshitted. Every party in all of this has used bullshit.
They were told they could put a bid in - as you've rightly pointed out they did.
So where's the bullshit?
It's jargon to appease, but not bullshit.
Nick
Administrator
Isn't that pretty much the same thing?
fernandopartridge
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It is bullshit. There was never any real prospect of a deal with CCFC once Wasps were on the horizon. Jargon to appease = bullshit i.e. telling 'them' what they want to hear.
Astute
Well-Known Member
So you agree I was right on one part but ignore the other part?
CCC said that they would consider a bid. But the deal was already done with Wasps. So what were they going to consider?
I think it depends on what bullshit means in the context, as it can have different usage.
It can, for example, mean a direct lie or the use of jargon to present things in specific ways.
If we're going with the second option I'd agree. All parties have opted to present themselves in the best light and offered information to do this - some of which had zero substance.
I was talking in relation to the first one.
Nick
Administrator
I think you are being a bit too technical, it is bullshit whether it is jargon to try and purposely misinform or whether it is a lie.