Otis
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Certainly going to help if we are playing at a higher level.
The higher level we are, the more the prominence.
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The higher level we are, the more the prominence.
Nick
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Do you think wasps would want us at a high level, for example?
Otis
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Stuff Wasps.
No, they probably wouldn't, but we as a club need to stop being also rans and need to start getting noticed again as a club with a future.
Nick
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At the Minute, we can't stuff wasps.
Wasps, the council and the higgs have so much control over our future. Whether sisu leave tomorrow or not..
People have been very naive since they moved here.
Kingokings204
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Seems a few on here are famous on CT comments.
I don't really know what we do. We can still stay at the academy past this year can't we? If we sit down and negotiate. Put pressure on them all and work with them.
Whether we like it or not they hold all the cards. The academy and the Ricoh. We ideally need both.
I don't really know what we do. We can still stay at the academy past this year can't we? If we sit down and negotiate. Put pressure on them all and work with them.
Whether we like it or not they hold all the cards. The academy and the Ricoh. We ideally need both.
Nick
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No change there.
It is the typical people, they throw things around, get questioned, change the subject to another rant. Rinse and repeat.
A mixture of blind hatred and PR abuse.
I haven't seen it, but is Garry making his sheep noises everytime somebody disagrees with him? Another one who had a flounce on here because everybody didn't blindly follow his shite.
I bet tim07 will be commenting on there also with some made up shit.
Not to mention the old "I have supported CCFC for 70 years" type line, followed by how they love Wasps. Standard.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Really worry about the mental health of some on there and a few on here. Wouldn't like to meet them a dark street when they are having one of their episodes, that is for sure.
And yes the dullard is making his sheep noises
Grendel
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Which means wasps will definitely want to get rid of us.
Nick
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None of them can actually have a debate. If you question on whatever made up ranty statement they make they just go off on something else unrelated.
It makes you wonder how many are PR people just wanting to make it look like Wasps = Good, everything CCFC = bad.
There is nothing at all to stop somebody making 20 accounts on there.
Grendel
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Chief dave has gone ahead of me in the sisu lovers rankings over there. I must try harder.
Kingokings204
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Yeah he is still doing his pathetic sheep noises. If he loves ccfc so much why does keep commenting how shit we are and sisu sisu sisu. I bet he hasn't been to a games for years because sisu are here.
Some of the comments on there are strange to say the least and they hate this website don't they. Nick and his cronies. Even Grendel is replying on there.
Look today was a tick box job done swiftly and correctly. I've heard nothing stating we can't stay there after this year even if it's just a year to year basis. Only positive I can take
Kingokings204
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I bet it's multiple accounts all being dicks. You try reasoning with them and arguments to put to them and they make sheep noises.
Well there we are.
Well there we are.
Nick
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Garry was on here, he had a flounce because people didn't agree with him.
They also seem to think on there that the telegraph is biased to SISU..
Here is Garry on here:
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/acl-no-surrender-part-2.32208/
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/is-torchys-real-name-john-thomas.32047/
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/the-one-thing-you-can-say-about-coventry-city-fans-is.32046/ (Although, this did get Brian going LOL LOL)
They hate here because people don't just listen to made up rants and not question them.
One pattern is that they all say how they have supported CCFC For over 50 years etc etc over and over again.
The worrying thing is their views are what people take as fact if they are just browsing a link... It is them who will be down the pub telling everybody how Wasps are helping CCFC as much as they can, but SISU are taking millions out of the club every year..
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Nick
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Exactly!! OR their other trick is somehow playing with the comments ratings.
It is probably the same people who have tried to sign up here and have multiple accounts, if people from Wasps for example try and sign up here, why wouldn't they sign up on there?
The other pattern is to have a go at me, remember last time I said that judging by the PR something is going to happen. People were signing up to have a go at me for some reason.
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The Reverend Skyblue
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Fuck people who have massive flounces because they won't listen to both sides of an argument,or can't/won't accept other people views on the subject.
In the main they are normally very immature in the intelligence department.
I once was so anti sisu I hated the bastards, but due to reading debates on here and accepting other views, I'm now firmly in the clubs court, (I used to relate everything about the club as everything to do with sisu), but it's not at all.
I still think they have made huge mistakes that the club have suffered enormously from, but the council Higgs and CSF are just a bunch of vindictive bastards.The poor club are stuck bang in the middle and take more damage each day the cross fighting continues
It's debating, you read ,take in , think about it, and if it changes your view that's a great thing in my eyes, Have an open mind and listen to people.
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Nick
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Exactly. Everybody has different views and although sometimes I am an absolute dickhead I do respect when people put their views across and debate it rather than just rants and I learn a lot.
The thing is, if you have a look at some of the posters like Chiefdave, Duffer, Bennets Afro and their post history. They are just as anti sisu as everybody else, then more comes out and they realise that the club arent to blame for as much as people who would have you think. I'd bet they still think SISU are twats, but can just see that it isn't just them.
The reason on here it is more "anti wasps, anti ccc" and those threads go on for ages is because people refuse to see it. If somebody makes a "SISU are wankers" thread then it just dies off because nobody really disagrees about it. Meanwhile when people are justifying Wasps moving here, people will disagree more with it.
I have probably disagreed with everybody on here over the years on certain things, but then agreed on other things. It isn't black or white like people would make out. I disagree with anything Italia says about Wasps etc, but when he is saying "everybody should get down to the ricoh" and he is still there braving it every week I fully agree with all of it.
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Otis
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You know what I mean you little tinker!
When I say stuff Wasps I mean we shouldn't care what they think.
Grendel
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They refuse to talk to us about a long term deal at the Ricoh.
Sky Blue Harry H
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I think it would be good if our owners could put before the fans a clear roadmap/timeframe of how they wish to proceed (new stadium, rent agreement with Wasps, whatever) - at the very least if they then followed that plan we could galvanise as a set of fans behind their 'vision' and hold them to account if they deviate. Of course it still strikes me as being difficult to envisage negotiations with Wasps re: the Ricoh whilst Court cases abound. for the record )I've not looked elsewhere for comments) but I thought Tim Fishers 3 minute delivery earlier today lacked any passion and he came across really deflated (probably as he felt it would be to no avail?)
dongonzalos
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"We are going to build our own Stadium, Academy and training facility"
This bluff has screwed us over in so many ways and continues to do so.
I really hope they can do it and they manage to do it in Coventry and I would accept a 25k Stadium now.
This bluff has screwed us over in so many ways and continues to do so.
I really hope they can do it and they manage to do it in Coventry and I would accept a 25k Stadium now.
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AFCCOVENTRY
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The only thing we have left to lose is Ryton... I'm sure that will be gone by the end of the season...
SkyBlue_Bear83
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I think everyone is almost unanimously anti SISU, the pro SISU jibe is just thrown around when people can't answer uncomfortable questions about other parties involved.
wasps can do fuck all if that genius hedge fund you love so much decide to run the club properly instead of simply bitching that everyone is being nasty to them. You always claimed they were clever people with a long term plan. Not seen any evidence of this so far unless the plan is to lose some money and piss everyone off in which case they are bang on course. Any idea what their actual master plan is yet?
olderskyblue
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Yes, maybe. The same when people are accused of being pro wasps in one way or another.
Nick
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CCC had control over CCFC before Wasps or SISU were here didn't they?
It was even CCC who picked SISU to be here rather than companies who were interested in buying the Ricoh at the same time.
Nick
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The thing is, this is a CCFC Forum so you can see why people might defend their club.
It is still strange to defend Wasps damaging our club (or not, as they will say).
olderskyblue
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But I don't see many defending wasps, maybe explaining why they think what they do about something related to them, but get shot down with that "wasps" lover tag, or your favourite nick, people are so naive....
ccfcway
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Its a sad fact that less than 48 hours before the season starts we have 11 threads about off field antics and the discussions about our 1st game weren't even on the 1st page of the forum
Nick
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There have been plenty who have said Wasps aren't to blame for things.
What is with all of this "shot down" stuff anyway? So if they say something, and somebody questions it is that being shot down?
olderskyblue
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No, it's when that's used as a reason that their view doesn't count
Nick
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When what is used as a reason that their view doesn't count?
olderskyblue
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By resorting to the "wasps lover" type stuff.