Thorn will be sacked today surely? (7 Viewers)

Astute

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You can't make a silk purse out of a sowe's ear :(

At least he gets them to look like a silk purse for half a game most games though although they look like a sows ear the rest of the time like they are
 

Grendel

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Just the same as nobody can say he won't improve with better players and a decent size squad so there is competition for places

That is an inane defence.

In that case you may as well drag anybody in with no experience of football (say a programme seller) and say give him a million quid and he may improve the team and until you give them that he cannot be judged. Some people seem deluded. Does anyone remember the team that Gould took over in the early 80's? All the good players had gone and they were all free transfer signings from nowhere. By rights they should have been down by Christmas. But they survived. Not by passing a ball without purpose but by pure team spirit and fight. Thorn cannot motivate these players and they are sterile and going through the motions. Good football? Is that a joke. I have watched the team probably 1,200 times in the last 40 years and I can honestly say this is the most boring apathetic football I have ever witnessed. The manager is inept and his tactics clueless. The lack of investment is a godsend to him or he would be exposed for what he is.

ASTUTE - I assume that is meant in irony. GULLIBLE is more appropriate I am afraid.
 

Astute

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That is an inane defence.

In that case you may as well drag anybody in with no experience of football (say a programme seller) and say give him a million quid and he may improve the team and until you give them that he cannot be judged. Some people seem deluded. Does anyone remember the team that Gould took over in the early 80's? All the good players had gone and they were all free transfer signings from nowhere. By rights they should have been down by Christmas. But they survived. Not by passing a ball without purpose but by pure team spirit and fight. Thorn cannot motivate these players and they are sterile and going through the motions. Good football? Is that a joke. I have watched the team probably 1,200 times in the last 40 years and I can honestly say this is the most boring apathetic football I have ever witnessed. The manager is inept and his tactics clueless. The lack of investment is a godsend to him or he would be exposed for what he is.

ASTUTE - I assume that is meant in irony. GULLIBLE is more appropriate I am afraid.

Irony? We can't even afford to sign players on a free. I am not gullable. We have the worse midfield in this division. Our midfield picks itself most games as we only seem to have 4 fit at any time.
 

BANTAM

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Irony? We can't even afford to sign players on a free. I am not gullable. We have the worse midfield in this division. Our midfield picks itself most games as we only seem to have 4 fit at any time.
Thornes on 8000 a week and is clueless give someone else a chance.
 

sky_blue_up_north

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we were always going down this season, everyone said that in August, so why sack a man for doing a job as expected?? It's not as if we've being playing terribly and getting hammered every week, the squad is just too weak to survive.

Exactly my point no manager could do anything in the current environment
 

Nick

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Exactly my point no manager could do anything in the current environment

Of course they could!! What about tactics, what about motivation, what about spotting weaknesses in opposition teams and hitting on that, what about getting a fighting spirit?
 

Grendel

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Of course they could!! What about tactics, what about motivation, what about spotting weaknesses in opposition teams and hitting on that, what about getting a fighting spirit?

Dead right it is amazing how SISU can set the managerial bar so low and some people just accept it. Again I say to look at the Team in the eraly 1980's a bunch of lower league signings and players at the very end of their careers who had no right to compete in the First Division but managed just to accumulate enough points to stay up. Thorn cannot motivate these players and many of them will still be around next season whoever owns the club. New investors cannot fund enough for a whole new team so many of these (except the better ones) will still be around. And why do people think Thorn will buy wisely -- his first signing cannot even get a game.
 

stupot07

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Dead right it is amazing how SISU can set the managerial bar so low and some people just accept it. Again I say to look at the Team in the eraly 1980's a bunch of lower league signings and players at the very end of their careers who had no right to compete in the First Division but managed just to accumulate enough points to stay up. Thorn cannot motivate these players and many of them will still be around next season whoever owns the club. New investors cannot fund enough for a whole new team so many of these (except the better ones) will still be around. And why do people think Thorn will buy wisely -- his first signing cannot even get a game.

Sorry Kduffy but you cannot compare football now to the early 80's, football has moved on loads technically, tactically, physically and playing conditions. Back in the 80's and early 90's to a degree top flight teams would regularly snap up non league players and put them straight in the first team, that never happens in the PL anymore and hasn't happened for a long time.
 

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