One striker in maybe two by weekend (12 Viewers)

Bugsy

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Covstu

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Lets hope, highly unlikely we are going to get a 20 goals a season man so likely will be a youngster.
 

fernandopartridge

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Hoping being the ominous word

And also incorrect, usual poor headline writing from the dreadful CT:

Mowbray actually said:
“We need to get some more bodies in and I’m sure we will,” said the manager. “We’re working hard and I would expect a forward to be in the building ready for the weekend – I would hope there are a few players but definitely one.
 

Nick

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Yeah it is taken from after the match..

It is better when the CT don't stick their beak in and make all these promises like with Turnbull.
 

oucho

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I reckon that the "1 new signing" will be McBean.

In our minds, most of us are counting him as a squad member anyway so that would be a bit of a let-down at this point!
 

Ashdown

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Armstrong was a coup for us at this level as was Murphy, be happy and surprised if we get anything near them two.
 

Nick

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I reckon that the "1 new signing" will be McBean.

In our minds, most of us are counting him as a squad member anyway so that would be a bit of a let-down at this point!

If it is then TM will have signed 3 new strikers and re-signed Tudgay so 4.

If none of them can score, we can just blame SISU.
 

Skyblueweeman

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Armstrong was a coup for us at this level as was Murphy, be happy and surprised if we get anything near them two.

That's the thing, isn't it. How many 20 goal a season strikers have we had in the last 20 years? Whoever comes in (or those already here) are on a hiding to nothing before they start.
 

oucho

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If it is then TM will have signed 3 new strikers and re-signed Tudgay so 4.

If none of them can score, we can just blame SISU.

I doubt we'll have more than 4 strikers in the squad, so with McBean that would be 3 by my count (Tudgay and Sordell, excluding G Thomas who TM obviously regards as a kid not ready to be counted as an option as a regular senior starter). Are you counting Kwame Thomas? I'd thought he was going to be used mostly as a winger? I guess these days attacking midfielders and strikers are becoming interchangeable.

My own view was that you need 2 players for every position, so if you plan to play a 442 over the season you know you need:
2 keepers
2 RBs
4 CBs
2 LBs
4 CMs
2 RWs
2LWs
4 strikers/ centre forwards.

So how are we doing with that?

2 keepers - RCC, Burge - sorted
2 RBs - Ricketts, 1 more RB needed
4 CBs - Willis, Turnbull (excluding Harries who is a kid), 2 more CBs needed
2 LBs - Stokes and Haynes - sorted
4 CMs - Vlad, Rose, McCann - 1 more CM needed
2 RWs - Reid, Lameiras - sorted
2LWs - Thomas, Jones - sorted
4 strikers/centre forwards - Sordell, Tudgay (excluding Thomas who is a kid), 2 more CFs needed

We assume that the Finn and McBean will join, so that means we need:

1) 1 defender who can play centre back and/or right back
2) a solid centre back
3) another centre midfielder (excluding the very young Stevenson and the ineffective Finch, here)
4) 1 more striker

I have excluded Page from this as he covers the LB option too, but if he can play either RB or CB then you can remove the requirement above for one of those players. I'm not counting the likes of Spence of the Kelly-Evans twins as senior squad members either.
 

Nick

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The same Kwame Thomas who is older than Armstrong? I'd very much count him as a striker.
 

FRY-CCFC

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I doubt we'll have more than 4 strikers in the squad, so with McBean that would be 3 by my count (Tudgay and Sordell, excluding G Thomas who TM obviously regards as a kid not ready to be counted as an option as a regular senior starter). Are you counting Kwame Thomas? I'd thought he was going to be used mostly as a winger? I guess these days attacking midfielders and strikers are becoming interchangeable.

My own view was that you need 2 players for every position, so if you plan to play a 442 over the season you know you need:
2 keepers
2 RBs
4 CBs
2 LBs
4 CMs
2 RWs
2LWs
4 strikers/ centre forwards.

So how are we doing with that?

2 keepers - RCC, Burge - sorted
2 RBs - Ricketts, 1 more RB needed
4 CBs - Willis, Turnbull (excluding Harries who is a kid), 2 more CBs needed
2 LBs - Stokes and Haynes - sorted
4 CMs - Vlad, Rose, McCann - 1 more CM needed
2 RWs - Reid, Lameiras - sorted
2LWs - Thomas, Jones - sorted
4 strikers/centre forwards - Sordell, Tudgay (excluding Thomas who is a kid), 2 more CFs needed

We assume that the Finn and McBean will join, so that means we need:

1) 1 defender who can play centre back and/or right back
2) a solid centre back
3) another centre midfielder (excluding the very young Stevenson and the ineffective Finch, here)
4) 1 more striker

I have excluded Page from this as he covers the LB option too, but if he can play either RB or CB then you can remove the requirement above for one of those players. I'm not counting the likes of Spence of the Kelly-Evans twins as senior squad members either.

Why are you excluding Harries and Stevenson who have both played well so far this season? Also Page and Haynes are the left backs, I'd say that Stokes is a CB in this formation.
 

oucho

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So with McBean added, we have 4 strikers plus George Thomas. The DKEs, Finches, Spences, Harries and Stevensons of this world are filling in at the moment, TM will want a squad of 22 senior players and throw those boys in on top, as you have to factor in a full squad after injuries and suspensions and so on.

Either way, the summary shows we are not too far off.
We ought to get the Finn, so would have 7 defenders and thus need one more, who could play as a RB/CB a la Pennington.
We will need another central midfielder for sure and as we appear to be counting Kwame Thomas as a striker, another midfielder too, either as a CM to enable Rose to play wide, or a genuine winger.
 

skybluesam66

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it is really now quality v quantity
We have a good nucleus of players who will do ok, with a bit of quality around them. We just need to add that quality
If we can find it, we could have a decent season, without it , it will be a very long season

I think 4 top loans, where we can rely on 3 of them being in the team in any game to complement what we have
 

junglej13

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I still think we could see about 6 players brought in. We need two or three more strikers. McBean is one for the development squad. Likewise Kane Smith although I'd like to see us take him. Tudgay is basically a coach and I cant envisage Mowbray sees him playing 10 games.
 

oucho

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I still think we could see about 6 players brought in. We need two or three more strikers. McBean is one for the development squad. Likewise Kane Smith although I'd like to see us take him. Tudgay is basically a coach and I cant envisage Mowbray sees him playing 10 games.

I highly doubt that we'd loan a player like McBean to play in the youth team. Smith would probably be thrown straight in, too because our only RB is Ricketts who may well be needed as a CB.

As for Tuddy, I agree he's going to be used more as Fergie used to throw in Sheringham at times, or Ireland with Niall Quinn, as in bring on an experienced head to calm things down and lead by example. I reckon he'll play more than you think, though, and with 4 strikers on the books including Tuddy and McBean we won't be signing any more unless he sacks of Kwame like he did with Elford-Alliyou last season.
 

Nick

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I highly doubt that we'd loan a player like McBean to play in the youth team. Smith would probably be thrown straight in, too because our only RB is Ricketts who may well be needed as a CB.

As for Tuddy, I agree he's going to be used more as Fergie used to throw in Sheringham at times, or Ireland with Niall Quinn, as in bring on an experienced head to calm things down and lead by example. I reckon he'll play more than you think, though, and with 4 strikers on the books including Tuddy and McBean we won't be signing any more unless he sacks of Kwame like he did with Elford-Alliyou last season.

But we aren't playing with a RB...
 

oucho

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But we aren't playing with a RB...
Give it a couple of weeks and we'll back to 4-at-the-back, so many times you see times starting out with three at the back, it never lasts.
Even so, we wouldn't have enough players to fill a squad with 22 senior pros, excluding the likes of Stevenson, DKEs, Harries, Spence, Finch, G Thomas etc. You can argue a different formation but that means that another position lacks cover.
 

shmmeee

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You can't assume we'll change formation.

GK: RCC/Burge
CB1: Turnbull/Harries
CB2: Ricketts/??? - Need a CB
CB3: Willis/Leahy
LWB: Page/Haynes
RWB: DKE/??? - Need a RWB
DM1: Gadhzev/Stevenson
DM2: McCann/Rose
AMR: Jones/Lamerias
ST: McBean/Tudgay/Sordell
AML: Reid/K Thomas

I think we'll still lack goals, but the CB position really worries me, especially considering our injury record there.

Even if we went 442 (which I doubt) we'd still need a CB a RB and a ST.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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You can't assume we'll change formation.

GK: RCC/Burge
CB1: Turnbull/Harries
CB2: Ricketts/??? - Need a CB
CB3: Willis/Leahy
LWB: Page/Haynes
RWB: DKE/??? - Need a RWB
DM1: Gadhzev/Stevenson
DM2: McCann/Rose
AMR: Jones/Lamerias
ST: McBean/Tudgay/Sordell
AML: Reid/K Thomas

I think we'll still lack goals, but the CB position really worries me, especially considering our injury record there.

Even if we went 442 (which I doubt) we'd still need a CB a RB and a ST.

If we sign that Finnish bloke it'll help, but it's all gone extremely fucking quiet?
 

Captain Dart

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stupot07

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You can't assume we'll change formation.

GK: RCC/Burge
CB1: Turnbull/Harries
CB2: Ricketts/??? - Need a CB. **stokes
CB3: Willis/Leahy **finch
LWB: Page/Haynes
RWB: DKE/??? - Need a RWB **Rose can also play there, in fact o think this is mowbrays prefered option
DM1: Gadhzev/Stevenson
DM2: McCann/Rose ***possibly Lawton to come back through injury
AMR: Jones/Lamerias
ST: McBean/Tudgay/Sordell/k Thomas
AML: Reid/**G Thomas / Spence / DKE

I think we'll still lack goals, but the CB position really worries me, especially considering our injury record there.

Even if we went 442 (which I doubt) we'd still need a CB a RB and a ST.

Just added a couple.

We won't go 442 anyway, mowbray doesn't like that formation, which is a shame we probably now have the players that can play and would probably excel in that formation.

He'll probably go back to the 4231 at some stage

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shmmeee

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Just added a couple.

We won't go 442 anyway, mowbray doesn't like that formation, which is a shame we probably now have the players that can play and would probably excel in that formation.

He'll probably go back to the 4231 at some stage

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Knew I forgot some. Cheers.

When is Stokes back ?(I'm out of the loop)
 

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