letsallsingtogether
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Nobody blamed Sisu for the formation though did they That's a new one on me.
Heard some moan at half time in the smoking area about TM team selection.
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Heard some moan at half time in the smoking area about TM team selection.
Nick
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Yes, I moaned about some of the players performances. I didn't go off on one about the Madison money or a made up rumour started by juggy?
It's weird that amongst it all mowbray doesn't get a mention, I'm not saying people should demand he is sacked. It's just that tactical decisions always revert to sisu.
Its happened for years.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I should have said SISU were mentioned. But mostly we talked about formations etc
Nick
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Then you have the "sisu won't let mowbray buy players". People don't seem to realise mowbray has brought in every attacker we have (bar g Thomas). He has signed 2 strikers.
People don't think logically, they don't think about things.
letsallsingtogether
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That's to hard slagging them off is easier
Liquid Gold
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This post is a lot more productive, this is how we should react to each other, by trying to understand each others frustrations and find away to bridge the divides between the fans.
My reservation on doing this would be the affect my opinion would have, surely a statement by the trust has to go to a vote? Id like to know what the trust's stance is regarding Wasps being in the city and why no action has been taken against them.
Nick
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People get frustrated don't they? People are often very constructive.That's to hard slagging them off is easier
Maybe it's a sign that the members views should be taken on board a bit more? Maybe listening to people who aren't shouting about sisu all of the time would give a bit off a wider view?
letsallsingtogether
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The're Football supporters Nick there is nothing logical about it.
Nick
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We can't just keep going "ah they are football supporters" can we if we want this to get sorted?
If people have issues with the formation for example then they need to look at who is responsible.
Just beating chests shouting sisu if anything makes it easier for them to get away with the stuff they do actually do, because it's so diluted with made up rumours.
All it shows is that some of our fans are either unaware of what's going on (from all sides) or they don't want to see it.
letsallsingtogether
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Yes your right we need another change of manager and round and round we go again.
Then if we play shit withe the new man we can sack the manager round and round we go again.
Or we just accept we are a third teir team and that is where we are likely to stay.
What a depressing thought ether way.
Nick
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I've never said sack him?
I think people do need to accept we are a league one club. Maybe start being a bit realistic.
letsallsingtogether
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What action would you like them to take against the Wasps.
After all the action they have taken against Sisu has come to nothing.
I hear people say they should tell people not to go to Wasps Games, well it didn't work when we were at sixfields so why would it work this time.
Fuck me there were 2 city fans wearing Wasps tops on saturday never saw anyone batter an eyelid.
letsallsingtogether
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So we are are league one team what does that mean?
Are we allowed to believe that we may make the playoffs once in our life time.
Because the longer we stay in this league without a challange get the smaller the attendance will get, and then our situation will become even more dire.
Nick
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whilst I don't think the trust can tell people what they can and can't do, theu can condemn the moving of sports teams.
They can call them out on things, they can call csf out on things. This doesn't mean they have to stop calling sisu out on things either.
I called what would happen with the academy before it happened, that there would be rumblings about going all out on all parties (good) but then it would all end up being the club's fault.
What they shouldn't have done is come on here and justify their move, gone to the telegraph saying how great their game was. People like cj shouldn't have bragged about their business bank account size due to the sport authorities in Coventry. (Fair play to him, I just don't think he is going to want to challenge the same authorities about ccfc stuff and risk that, I wouldn't either).
The trust should be a pain in everybody's arse, not in an aggressive way but digging and questioning. If breed has said ccfc told him multiple times they are leaving, call him on it. Don't let any side push their shit, and certainly don't push their shit for them.
Nick
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Of course we can believe, by us being in league one our fans should get an idea of league one and the other teams etc.
People seem to think it's just ccfc in this position, almost like they are oblivious to other teams in this league and situations.
Could maybe start by realising that fans should be getting down and supporting the team.
Nobody seems open to listening to anybody who doesn't get so worked up about sisu. They just get the "you must be happy" line. There's no debate, no putting points across.
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Skyblueweeman
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And you say this after insinuating that RFCs opinion wasn't required...
Easy to slag him off just because he's often wrong?
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letsallsingtogether
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There rssts my point.
letsallsingtogether
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There is a fundamental differance.
People slag off the Trust, if they don't like the way it is run or like the direction it is taking they can give there time and effort to change that.
With RFC no time or reasoning will make a difference
Skyblueweeman
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With RFC no time or reasoning will make a difference
He's still allowed an opinion whether you like it or not. You've got absolutely no right to say he shouldn't.
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Ian1779
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Using that logic then why protest against SISU? They own the club.... They've won.
Ian1779
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And should we not make life difficult for them too??
stupot07
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Whilst it will never change, some form of protest even if its a couple of chorus's of "we want Wasps out" and a banner or 2 would at least give them the message that the ccfc fans aren't happy with them buying the stadium and academy situation, and acknowledge their role in it. At the minute they have an easy ride and think that our fans aren't bothered. Meanwhile they have cleverly shifted all blame on sisu.
Pro CCFC should be the angle of protests.
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Ian1779
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There is a fundamental differance.
People slag off the Trust, if they don't like the way it is run or like the direction it is taking they can give there time and effort to change that.
With RFC no time or reasoning will make a difference
Really?
I've given constructive feedback before without any abuse and it gets ignored. Now I appreciate that one voice can't expect things to change but it's perfectly reasonable to question the direction and if you like 'the mission statement' of the supporters trust.
Can you think of justified reasons why the Wasps move wasn't condemned from Day 1 - because I don't think there are any.
Nick
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It was the total opposite, they were justifying it.
People were posting on here how it was great for the city, others saying how great their game was compared to ours.
It is the whole "enemy of the enemy is our friend" type thing. The same as the council or CSF haven't been condemned.
The trust should be all over that document with the conditions of the sale of the Ricoh saying it musn't harm CCFC (that's CCFC, not SISU) and banging on doors saying what's going on with this then? The council leader has given a "no comment" about that this morning, what's the betting he won't get questioned on it?
Over and over again, you can see everybody else just say "yeah but its sisu" and everybody goes running back in the other direction again.
Will the Trust be saying the council should be involved in talks about the Higgs and calling them out like they did CCFC? Maybe a "hold on a minute, wasnt it a condition it shouldnt harm ccfc, whats going on here then?" at least?
Captain Dart
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Why don't you ever rein in Grendel then? He regularly insults people in particularly obnoxious ways.
Nick
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Like when he said about Joe Elliott's combover and people got really offended?
There is a slight difference.
letsallsingtogether
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No there isn't he regularly call people stupid and all you do is give him likes and you go on a noir double standards.
Then again you call people liers.
Nick
Administrator
Yes, I said Kev Monks was lying about the Academy stuff. He was... It wasn't just a "mistake", it was full on bullshit. Richard Stevens even made a point of telling him as well.
You probably won't be able to see that though, because it was something trying to make SISU and the club look bad.
Grendel
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Stop being stupid.
Captain Dart
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The arena is leased from the council, Wasps don't have a freehold. Though unless they fold it is as good as theirs.
Captain Dart
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No, I mean when he call people idiots or morons, you know he has form.
Grendel
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Perhaps I should start a thread calling you a moron for your usual biased anti CCFC crap.
Than when I get a backlash (from you fellow cronies Bruce and Dim Tim) I can reveal it was all sarcasm and you clearly don't understand my sense of humour.