Next Sisu Out Protest? (53 Viewers)

fernandopartridge

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AAnnnnndddddd Who pays their wages? This shower of shit can fold this club with a click of their fingers. Then where is the Manager, and team on matchday???

SISU aren't paid any wages by CCFC. Fisher and Anderson are employees of OEG which is CCFC. Why can't you get even the most basic of facts right?
 

fernandopartridge

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The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..

Sorry, have you just agreed that the Trust's view is that 'if you don't scream SISU OUT at every single opportunity then somehow you're in collusion with them and are a SISU lover.'?
 

Nick

Administrator
The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..

How do you know though about the majority of the Trust members?

I am not sure you realise what you have just pretty much said. :( Might want to re-word it Steve.
 

italiahorse

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Nobody is ripping the piss or laughing.
Just because somebody says it won't work, it doesn't mean they have their tongue anywhere.
The thing is, you keep going on about pressuring SISU but do you think a man on a roundabout is going to pressure them? All parties need to be pressured.
Meanwhile, people get worked up and angry about SISU to the point they are going to explode it takes the attention away from other parties doesn't it ;)
It is almost as if it's perfect that all eyes are on the club and SISU so everybody else can crack on without any sort of backlash.
That isn't shouting down by the way, that is just stating the obvious.

Nobody is shouting down anybody who wants change, they are saying 10 people marching from Tesco to the game etc isn't going to change a thing.

Maybe people should stop listening to the shit that Juggy and others spout as gospel, try to see what's going on before they burst a blood vessel without actually knowing why and hammer everybody involved. SISU, CCC, WASPS, CSF.

I bet Wasps and CSF are sat pissing themselves, yet it is you that is going on about Nodding Dogs.

The thing is that to start applying pressure on Sisu you have to start small and work up a head of steam.
The usual few on here keep putting up barriers to this and nip it in the bud. Some even deflect the conversation to other minor contributors to our downfall with the effect it gets diluted.
We need to target the biggest problem we have and they need to know that the vast majority don't want them here.
This board could start by making a Sisu Out thread a sticky and I propose you do so.
 

oldfiver

Well-Known Member
The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..

Can you give us figures to support the "vast majority" statement
When did you last have dialogue with CCFC - and when will you publish the matters discussed?
 

Nick

Administrator
The thing is that to start applying pressure on Sisu you have to start small and work up a head of steam.
The usual few on here keep putting up barriers to this and nip it in the bud. Some even deflect the conversation to other minor contributors to our downfall with the effect it gets diluted.
We need to target the biggest problem we have and they need to know that the vast majority don't want them here.
This board could start by making a Sisu Out thread a sticky and I propose you do so.

you keep going on about it, I have said you are welcome to make any thread you want.

Its almost as if people have forgotten about all of the other protests that have been done.

Is saying a march from Tesco to the ground won't do anything a barrier or is it common sense?

The same as the protests outside an empty office...

People like you do a good enough job of diluting by making stuff up.

But again, people don't want to listen to others who aren't just shouting sisu out all the time, as Steve has just confirmed.
 

oldfiver

Well-Known Member
The thing is that to start applying pressure on Sisu you have to start small and work up a head of steam.
The usual few on here keep putting up barriers to this and nip it in the bud. Some even deflect the conversation to other minor contributors to our downfall with the effect it gets diluted.
We need to target the biggest problem we have and they need to know that the vast majority don't want them here.
This board could start by making a Sisu Out thread a sticky and I propose you do so.

The biggest impact that could take place in the City of Coventry is the removal of this stale council
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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Why can't this protest be mixed with SISU OUT, Wasps and Council Out e.c.t, why aren't people bothered about raising their own concerns during the march? Anyone can easily join along with their own agendas to who has hurt CCFC the most.

That's the only reason why people do these protests, because they care about 1 thing, CCFC.

Instead of making 50,000 page long threads about the subject, why not be involved in it instead? And protest whoever you want to protest against, unless of course, you're happy the way the club is going?
Be involved are you mad?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
you keep going on about it, I have said you are welcome to make any thread you want.

Its almost as if people have forgotten about all of the other protests that have been done.

Is saying a march from Tesco to the ground won't do anything a barrier or is it common sense?

The same as the protests outside an empty office...

People like you do a good enough job of diluting by making stuff up.

But again, people don't want to listen to others who aren't just shouting sisu out all the time, as Steve has just confirmed.

Quote what I have made up.
It's either not happened yet like Land Rover Stadium or the takeover by Wasps....
or it is an opinion that Sisu are taking enough money out of the club to keep their investors happy which without the detail has yet to be proven.
You are the biggest obstacle to getting rid of Sisu with your continued obstacle to Sisu protests on this board. You are not using your priveledged position as administrator on this board to leverage them out like the majority of people want.
You will need to live with it when they finally go.
 

Nick

Administrator
Quote what I have made up.
It's either not happened yet like Land Rover Stadium or the takeover by Wasps....
or it is an opinion that Sisu are taking enough money out of the club to keep their investors happy which without the detail has yet to be proven.
You are the biggest obstacle to getting rid of Sisu with your continued obstacle to Sisu protests on this board. You are not using your priveledged position as administrator on this board to leverage them out like the majority of people want.
You will need to live with it when they finally go.

The old management fees crap.

How is it an obstacle, you are welcome to post what you want like I keep saying but you won't?

The biggest obstacle is that people go running off and shout about stuff but won't listen to anybody else. It now seems the trust are on that too.

Are you really saying I'm keeping sisu in because a thread isn't a sticky? Seriously?

When they finally go I'll see what the situation is, if it's better than happy days, if not then bad news.
 

Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
Can you give us figures to support the "vast majority" statement
When did you last have dialogue with CCFC - and when will you publish the matters discussed?

Do not have the exact percentage available, but when the Trust last put it out to membership it was a massive majority.

As for dialogue, last time I personally discussed issues with a Director of SISU it was less than two weeks ago.
 

Ian1779

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The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..

So another point - what is the vast majority view on the SBT condemning the move by Wasps to Coventry?

I assume at least the Trust has asked its members that question...
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
So another point - what is the vast majority view on the SBT condemning the move by Wasps to Coventry?

I assume at least the Trust has asked its members that question...

It will be a majority again.
But it matters not one iota as we can't change the past and need to tackle the future where we can.
Need a medium term plan from Sisu on venue and more importantly they need to drive the academy discussions.
I suggest they start a tick list on requirements they have, what they can use at Higgs and what they need to find.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
The old management fees crap.

Without the detail you have no idea where the overheads are going.
Also £1.4M interest charged ??
Also they locked themselves up with the club in a way that makes it difficult for it to be sold (or stolen).
But hey I'll keep slagging them off and you keep putting their argument back to me.
 

Bruce the Boot

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The only way sisu will go is if fans stop going to games stop buying merchandise but that will kill the club so won't happen

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I agree , but we are suffering a slow death anyway , I wonder if we become home less will the FA step in regarding the golden share ?
 

Bruce the Boot

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I suppose they will , could , Cant remember all the terms the FA set them but I wonder if they have failed on any ? Fa never had the balls last time so guess next time will be no different >

Thing is , can they prove they have been forced out ?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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Excellent - I look forward to a clear and concise statement shortly.
So you look forward a clear and concise statement shortly from a group of fans? Tell you what I'm looking forward to
1 a clear and concise statement from the club
2 a clear and concise statement from our owners
3 a clear and concise statement from Wasps
4 a clear and concise statement from the council
5 a clear and concise statement from the Higgs charity
6 a clear and concise statement from CSF
It doesn't matter what the trust say or do now might as well pack it in and do you know why?
1 they can't do right for wrong for some people no matter what they do.
2 they show something that the other parties don't and couldn't that is love for the club
3 they try to get all parties to at least talk even when certain parties don't want to
4 certain so called city fans want loads of things doing but aren't prepared to actually do anything themselves and just wait for whatever is done to fail so they can gloat and act so self righteously it beggars belief.
5 at least if they do pack it in they won't have to listen to the bullshit that Anderson,Fisher,the Wasps fuckers, CSF and all the others come out with.
They can say they tried but ultimately failed due to the apathy of the fans of the club who over the last six or seven years have been worn down,divided and nobody tell me that this wasn't by design. This was planned pity other things about the club weren't as well planned
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
So you look forward a clear and concise statement shortly from a group of fans? Tell you what I'm looking forward to
1 a clear and concise statement from the club
2 a clear and concise statement from our owners
3 a clear and concise statement from Wasps
4 a clear and concise statement from the council
5 a clear and concise statement from the Higgs charity
6 a clear and concise statement from CSF
It doesn't matter what the trust say or do now might as well pack it in and do you know why?
1 they can't do right for wrong for some people no matter what they do.
2 they show something that the other parties don't and couldn't that is love for the club
3 they try to get all parties to at least talk even when certain parties don't want to
4 certain so called city fans want loads of things doing but aren't prepared to actually do anything themselves and just wait for whatever is done to fail so they can gloat and act so self righteously it beggars belief.
5 at least if they do pack it in they won't have to listen to the bullshit that Anderson,Fisher,the Wasps fuckers, CSF and all the others come out with.
They can say they tried but ultimately failed due to the apathy of the fans of the club who over the last six or seven years have been worn down,divided and nobody tell me that this wasn't by design. This was planned pity other things about the club weren't as well planned

So the Trust can't come out and condemn the Wasps move - is that what you are saying?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
Do you know anyone who wants them here ?
Apply a bit of common sense. Surely you talk to other fans ?

Common sense is what is sadly lacking all over the place.

The Trust's stand on Sixfields was correct. They should have applied the same principles to Wasps coming here- they didn't condemn it from Day 1 and as such have lost credibility.
 

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