stupot07
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Viable deals? What's the definition of viable?
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chiefdave
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Well according to Wasps owning your own ground is essential.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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A deal that is suitable to both parties but talk to not at as I said .(hope city can hold on)
stupot07
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The club were talking to 'not at' wasps about a rental deal and wasps were the ones to break off talks.
I can't see any deal being viable - as a league one club we need low rental and access to revenues, with their bonds, the bonds interest, the aim of becoming the biggest rugby club in Europe and winning trophy's wasps need as much money as possible - that will mean significantly higher rent and little/no access to revenues.
In fact I am convinced the 'noise' excuse is bullshit and is a delaying tactic being used to put the club on a position that they have no choice but to agree a significantly worse deal.
I'm not sure where you get wasps are nice businessmen, they have been far more ruthless than sisu, lying to their fans about moving to london, taking another clubs ground and specifically choosing to move their training facility to where our academy is based, and thus going back on the assurances they gave the council that they would not be detrimental to us or CRFC.
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clint van damme
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I see absolutely no evidence of that.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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We need a low rental you say we need to put in an offer that is suitable to any package we require that's always been SUSI's trouble they want everything for nothing .They wanted the ground for next to nothing Higgs share same even shook on it changed their mind. I never said nice I said reasonable there no nice businessmen .Clint get SUSI out of the way and I think things would change overnight.
chiefdave
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Can't you see from the way that the council welcomed the buyers who wanted to buy the club and the stadium before SISU took over?
hutch1972
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What about the millions the council have cost us taxpayers ? 300k is nothing compared to the gifting of the Ricoh!
Nick
Administrator
I think people forget just how much the council waste, the salary of Reeves while he works somewhere else
clint van damme
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what I want to know is why 3 days ago, the pre condition to talks was SISU dropping their legal action and now it's dropping their legal action and paying the councils legal costs?
Nick
Administrator
It is a bit strange, moving the goal posts further away
chiefdave
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That's a 20% increase over the previous year and compares to £221,372 for his equivalent in Birmingham, Wolverhampton at £158,124, Solihull at £117,722 and Sandwell at £157,192.
He's been in charge since since 2008, just think of some of the things that have happened under his leadership.
And of course Lucas said she wasn't lying when saying ACL was 'washing its face' and although not mentioned by name from what she said the only people who could have supplied her with this incorrect information were Reeves and West.
chiefdave
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Because the club gave an indication that they wanted to talk and wanted the council to be part of that process. Within a couple of days you have the council putting a new condition in place that Anderson can not meet.
Nick
Administrator
Exactly, amazing how he says he wants to talk and sit down and a new obstacle is added in
Nick
Administrator
It was silly money being lost the days he was working somewhere else
clint van damme
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You'll get accused of been a conspiracy theorist but that's what I was thinking.
chiefdave
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Can't remember without looking it up but didn't someone get appointed, and presumably paid, to cover for him when he wasn't there but there was no reduction in Reeves salary?
stupot07
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And they know that the anti sisu sentiment is the highest its been scince sixfields and they can get away moving the goalposts and everyone will blame sisu
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Nick
Administrator
Careful, you are obviously happy with sisu too.
Just a co incidence though, one more add to the list.
Nick
Administrator
They and others have been doing that for months, I have pointed out many times that when the anti sisu stuff seems to peak that id bet something that could make another party look bad is going to come out.
Also it's a fact that a party have been known to deliberately try to fire up the anti sisu stuff with rumours in the past...
I'm still amazed not many see the patterns in it. I made a point of saying something is going to come out when the wasps academy stuff, and said to somebody the day before this came out.. When I pointed out something was going to come out soon, random people signed up just to have a go at me
Its so effective, make everybody look in one direction and do something so it goes un noticed.
Astute
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According to SISU owning your own ground is essential. If only they took it as seriously as Wasps.
Grendel
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So they should search the country for a cheap ground to acquire and screw fans in their current community?
fernandopartridge
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Why did our council force the creation of ACL and the completely out of kilter rent then?
Brylowes
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But they never took another clubs ground did they, the club I think you're talking about were
Playing home games in Northampton. Whilst insisting they would never return because they
Were going to build their very own stadium and academy, they played a very dangerous game
Of brinkmanship "and lost"
stupot07
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It was built for us, it has sky blue seats, it has ccfc and sky blues written in the seats, and in fact we had already returned to the Ricoh before the wasps finalised the deal. We were never going to build our own ground brinkmanship or not, and wasps knew what they were doing and yes they looked after themselves (their prerogative) but let's not ignore their ruthlessness in doing so, just like the academy.
This is old ground and a well trodden path so I'll leave you to it.
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Brylowes
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But it wasn't cheap, TF said SISU would never have done the deal Wasps did.
Meanwhile I'm sure you referred to it as a "white elephant"
Brylowes
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It has all of those things, and was built for us, if only we'd had owners who were serious
About running the football club and dedicated to ensuring it's future, it would be.
Liquid Gold
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Yeah if only we could get rid of the hedge fund we could sort out a proper business deal with... a hedge fund
Brylowes
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Going on the evidence available, in all honesty, which one would you rather
Owned us.
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None of the above?
Liquid Gold
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Id not like an owner that would take us away from our home, change our name and disenfranchise our loyal supporters. Make of that what you will...
Nick
Administrator
I just hope they don't get a loan about the community asset to pay themselves to be honest.
Imagine if they took us on by distressing the football club to get it, after the outrage about a stadium management company being distressed imagine what it will be like if it's our club.
Brylowes
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Well that would be very unlikely seeing as they have a long lease on the Ricoh and
Seem hell bent on putting down roots and building for the future.
SISU have already done it for them, can't see how it could be any more distressed TBH
chiefdave
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Wasps moved the club 90 miles away, changed their name and then took out huge debt against the stadium to pay back their owner.
Not sure there would be many people on here happy if the same was done to us.
Nick
Administrator
I don't think you can see anything other than sisu anyway can you?
You moan and say people defend sisu, but are arguing wasps cause