The Lurker
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All if's and buts. And talking of burton away. We didn't have Armstrong playing that day yet beat and scored 2 goals against a top 2 team.
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All if's and buts. And talking of burton away. We didn't have Armstrong playing that day yet beat and scored 2 goals against a top 2 team.
stupot07
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Yup. Scoring goals is thr hardest thing to do in football, look at villa last season, their inability to score cost them relegation. Problem for us is, we have an inexperienced defence which are now leaking an average of more than a goal a game in the league, which means we're going have to score a goal a game to get a point. Doesn't bode well that we've only managed 2 in 6 games in the league.
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steve82
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This is the 2 teams from the same point at the season, first game after the transfer windows.
V Burton ----------- v Fleetwood
4231 formation ---- 352 formation
Lee Burge -------- RCC
Sam Ricketts ----- Jordan Turnbull
Aaron Martin ------Cian Harries
Reda Johnson ---- Jordan Willis
Chris Stokes ------ Lewis Page
Romain Vinvelot --- Chris McCann
John Fleck -------- Vladimir Gadzhev
Jacob Murphy ----- Jamie Sterry
Reuben lamerias --- Garl Bigirimana
Jim O'brien -------- marvin Sordell
Marcus Tudgay ---- Daniel Agyei
Subs. Subs.
RCC--------------- Lee Burge
Cian Harries------- Sam Ricketts
Ryan Haynes-------Ben Stevenson
Connor Thomas-----Kyle Reid
George Thomas-----Reuben Lameries
Lateef Elford-Alliyu---Andre Wright
Marc Antoine-fortune- Marcus Tudgay
No AA as away with England and no JJ as injured in current team
V Burton ----------- v Fleetwood
4231 formation ---- 352 formation
Lee Burge -------- RCC
Sam Ricketts ----- Jordan Turnbull
Aaron Martin ------Cian Harries
Reda Johnson ---- Jordan Willis
Chris Stokes ------ Lewis Page
Romain Vinvelot --- Chris McCann
John Fleck -------- Vladimir Gadzhev
Jacob Murphy ----- Jamie Sterry
Reuben lamerias --- Garl Bigirimana
Jim O'brien -------- marvin Sordell
Marcus Tudgay ---- Daniel Agyei
Subs. Subs.
RCC--------------- Lee Burge
Cian Harries------- Sam Ricketts
Ryan Haynes-------Ben Stevenson
Connor Thomas-----Kyle Reid
George Thomas-----Reuben Lameries
Lateef Elford-Alliyu---Andre Wright
Marc Antoine-fortune- Marcus Tudgay
No AA as away with England and no JJ as injured in current team
The Lurker
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Nail on the head. Also apart from Jones we have no spark in our team. The Bulgarian has been disappointing and McCann is a good player but lacks any creativity. Clear cut chances have been few and far between this season.
The Lurker
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Steve - one stand out thought on a quick glance is the lack of experience in our team this year compared to last.
steve82
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Yes, deffinatly. Only by about 3 players but how telling is that currently. One thing we've still been unable to address is that natural leader.
My concern is the goals currently not the inexperience in defence or team overall. We can plug that with a few journey men as a stop gap... Goals we cannot
steve82
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Nearly levels out in experience then
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Yea but hes not gonna play players who are not very good just to have more experience.
Not speaking on Reid but Tudgay and Ricketts clearly aren't good enough to start 46 games a season.
singers_pore
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The defense is about as strong as last season. The midfield and especially the striker positions are much weaker. If you can't see that you have no understanding of football. I said before the season started that we would struggle to score goals this season.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I don't buy any argument that says our squad is as good this year, it isn't.
Sheffied United aren't doing well, but their squad is clearly under performing. I don't think ours is as much at all, if we finished in the bottom half I don't see how anyone could be surprised.
If you match up player for player, admittedly we know some off the first list a lot more, but you'd pick nearly all of them over the new lot. This wasn't a building process, we've let go or lost nearly all of our top players from last year, and the replacements we've bought in are not enough, and I don't think of good enough quality either.
The defence and center midfield aren't strong enough, they can't battle when it'll be required. The guys on the flanks are just kids and actually have an alarmingly low amount of end product. The strikers are a mixed bunch, but maybe one of them could come good.
As I've said before, I hate SISU, but it boils down to Mowbray for me. You can't complain about the budget when you sign players on fees. We're light on center backs but it looks like he threw it all on Turnball. If it was that shit you'd keep the likes of Martin, and bring in a free agent to play along side him.
We're in for a long season I think.
Sheffied United aren't doing well, but their squad is clearly under performing. I don't think ours is as much at all, if we finished in the bottom half I don't see how anyone could be surprised.
If you match up player for player, admittedly we know some off the first list a lot more, but you'd pick nearly all of them over the new lot. This wasn't a building process, we've let go or lost nearly all of our top players from last year, and the replacements we've bought in are not enough, and I don't think of good enough quality either.
The defence and center midfield aren't strong enough, they can't battle when it'll be required. The guys on the flanks are just kids and actually have an alarmingly low amount of end product. The strikers are a mixed bunch, but maybe one of them could come good.
As I've said before, I hate SISU, but it boils down to Mowbray for me. You can't complain about the budget when you sign players on fees. We're light on center backs but it looks like he threw it all on Turnball. If it was that shit you'd keep the likes of Martin, and bring in a free agent to play along side him.
We're in for a long season I think.
ccfcway
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7 goals conceded in 6 games. Only one of the teams in the play offs have conceded less.
Its ups top where we need to sharpen up
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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We've played some fucking rubbish opposition though, and at home.
Injury to someone like Turnbull and it does look scary, we couldn't even field a four at the back if that happened.
But yes, up top is worrying. The strikers are firing blanks, and the wingers have no end product, including Jones a lot of the time.
stupot07
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A bit of a moot point that given those 4 teams have scored 10-13 goals in 6 games. We're playing a very defensive formation and not really looking like scoring.
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ccfcway
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Other than Sterry--Willis- Ricketts- Page
(and that's with DKE, Harries and Haynes on the bench)
letsallsingtogether
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Hate to admit it but I have to agree with you from what I hAve wached so far this season. .
Good job the season doesn't start till Boxing day.
Grendel
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I'm sure they all wish they could swap with our awesome team.
letsallsingtogether
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Don't need to they could buy the lot for a couple of thousand!
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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My point was more: What center backs do we have?
Yeah Harries and Ricketts could play there, but one is a kid who (albiet has done better than expected) is still probably not quite there, the other is a player all our fans wanted to bin off and criticised when he re-signed. Not quite the promotion chasing solid center back partnership you'd be after is it? That's literately the predicament with just one injury.
I don't trust the defence at all, and with RCC looking a little shaky, I think it will get worse. That's before you address the other end of the pitch.
robbiekeane
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Agree with pretty much all of this
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Honestly, I think it's probably somewhere in the middle. Whilst maybe we aren't bad enough to be second bottom, I reckon we're probably somewhere between that position and 13th.
I admire the optimism (but also sincerely question the sanity) of anyone who thinks we're top six material.
Hobo
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Looking at the where will we finish thread, most seem to be predicting mid table.
Captain Dart
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Glass half full: 7 goals conceded in 6 games. Only one of the teams in the play offs have conceded less.
Glass half empty: 2 goals scored in 6 games, half the number of the next lowest scorers.
letsallsingtogether
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Glass half empty is where the problem lies.
I have not seen anything from any of our strikers that suggests they have 10 goals in them.
Martin180
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I would happily have an even £100 with you that one of our strikers scores 10 league goals , interested ?
ccfcway
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stop with the common sense. It's not welcome here
steve82
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Chip Batch
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Surprised me today by not producing the expected second half collapse.
I still think we'll struggle though. We're a team that plays nice enough football without hurting anyone. Go behind and we're very likely to lose.
I still think we'll struggle though. We're a team that plays nice enough football without hurting anyone. Go behind and we're very likely to lose.
clint van damme
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problem is they're not easy to come by. Heard an interview recently with, I think. Roy Keane. He was saying every dressing room used to have at least one but now they're hard to find. He put it down to the way young players are molly coddled.
steve82
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The modern era I suppose, bigi sounds like he wants to try, RCC seems a character. Jordan Willis may try, and Tudgay is a big talker on the pitch so I'm guessing there our main leaders in a sense
steve82
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