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martcov

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chiefdave said:
Look on twitter and the CT site. Things like this announcement today are celebrated as SISU getting their due except, even if the football club ceased to exist, it would have at best minimal impact.
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I would like to see them get their due at the JRs. That would bring things to a head. The speculation would be over and the final decision would have to be made " stay or go".

Hopefully the club will be doing well in the league and off the field - if so, there may be a buyer. If not, it's over until someone picks up the pieces.

I assume that the golden share has a value to someone....

This debate won't bring us further.
 
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oldfiver

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martcov said:
It could be because he has a vested interest in the lease and an emotional interest in the future of Cov Rugby.

Having seen the predicament of CCFC under SISU's tenure, he may well be right not to want anything to do with SISU.
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You keep thinking that !
 
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dongonzalos

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Problem is, it is quite reasonable to say no further negotiations whilst the legal stuff is going on.
The next potential legal action affects Wasps.
They were in negotiations over a potential 20 year commitment. With a business that is on the verge of dragging them into legal action.
That 20 year commitment is a nice to have for them. Whereas it's a potential life line for us.
They would be pretty stupid not to use it to exert pressure over the legal action. (They don't seem stupid to me)
Also it seems CCC are a key business associate for them.
So at the same time as protecting their own interests they also butter up a key business associate.
 
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Nick

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dongonzalos said:
Problem is, it is quite reasonable to say no further negotiations whilst the legal stuff is going on.
The next potential legal action affects Wasps.
They were in negotiations over a potential 20 year commitment. With a business that is on the verge of dragging them into legal action.
That 20 year commitment is a nice to have for them. Whereas it's a potential life line for us.
They would be pretty stupid not to use it to exert pressure over the legal action. (They don't seem stupid to me)
Also it seems CCC are a key business associate for them.
So at the same time as protecting their own interests they also butter up a key business associate.
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Do you know the terms of the 20 year stuff? Would really need to know more info before saying it is a life line for us.
 
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skybluetony176

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oldfiver said:
I just wonder what any spat between CCFC and SISU has to do with someone who lives in America?
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I would imagine that the spat doesn't concern him. What clearly does is the secure future of CRFC hence the clause on the site in the first place. As none of us would have got CCFC into bed with SISU knowing what we now know can you really blame the guy for not wanting CRFC getting into bed with SISU?
 
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dongonzalos

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stupot07 said:
Not having a go at you rupert but Cov United aren't a ccfc Phoenix club and cannot replace ccfc if we get liquidated. It is no safety net.

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Not that I believe we would ever be liquidated. However for some it would be if that ever happens. Others of course it wouldn't.
 
duffer

duffer

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dongonzalos said:
Problem is, it is quite reasonable to say no further negotiations whilst the legal stuff is going on.
The next potential legal action affects Wasps.
They were in negotiations over a potential 20 year commitment. With a business that is on the verge of dragging them into legal action.
That 20 year commitment is a nice to have for them. Whereas it's a potential life line for us.
They would be pretty stupid not to use it to exert pressure over the legal action. (They don't seem stupid to me)
Also it seems CCC are a key business associate for them.
So at the same time as protecting their own interests they also butter up a key business associate.
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Forgive me, but in what way does the legal action affect Wasps? The stadium is fully owned by them, the loans are cleared, I can see no way in which the legal action can impact Wasps.

It could potentially hurt the council in terms of damages, but there's no scenario I can see where the deal can now be be unwound - so again, how does it affect Wasps?
 
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dongonzalos

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duffer said:
Forgive me, but in what way does the legal action affect Wasps? The stadium is fully owned by them, the loans are cleared, I can see no way in which the legal action can impact Wasps.

It could potentially hurt the council in terms of damages, but there's no scenario I can see where the deal can now be be unwound - so again, how does it affect Wasps?
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They are named in JR2. Which means they will need to supply information. Probably give evidence.
They will need to use lawyers to look over everything. To ensure they are safeguarded.
Unnecessary hassle brought to them by the people they were looking to sign a 20 year business relationship with.
 
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Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
They are named in JR2. Which means they will beed to supply information. Probably give evidence.
They will need to use lawyers to look over everything. To ensure they are safeguarded.
Unnecessary hassle brought to them by the people they were looking to sign a 20 year business relationship with.
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You have no idea any of what you have just said is true do you?
 
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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
You have no idea any of what you have just said is true do you?
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No, you are right.
If Wasps are a named party in a judicial review.
They will just ignore it. They won't seek legal advice about it.
Nobody will ask them for information and they won't have to give any evidence.
In fact why are they even named?
 
stupot07

stupot07

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dongonzalos said:
Not that I believe we would ever be liquidated. However for some it would be if that ever happens. Others of course it wouldn't.
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It will never be a ccfc Phoenix regardless of whether some people will start supporting them or not, unlike AFC Wimbledon which did rise from the ashes of the old Wimbledon FC.

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Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
No, you are right.
If Wasps are a named party in a judicial review.
They will just ignore it. They won't seek legal advice about it.
Nobody will ask them for information and they won't have to give any evidence.
In fact why are they even named?
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They are a party of interest as a technicality. So you don't know anything about 20 year deals do you? Or about the legal action being an obstacle - do you ?
 
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dongonzalos

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stupot07 said:
It will never be a ccfc Phoenix regardless of whether some people will start supporting them or not, unlike AFC Wimbledon which did rise from the ashes of the old Wimbledon FC.

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Ah you mean technically a Phoenix club. As oppose to saying no one will start supporting them.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
They are a party of interest as a technicality. So you don't know anything about 20 year deals do you? Or about the legal action being an obstacle - do you ?
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I know they were in negotions around a 20 year deal.
I know Wasps state they pulled the plug on the negotiations due to the "background noise" around the legal action.
I know Wasps will seek legal advice as they are named in JR2.

So what do you know that proves any of the above is not correct?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
I know they were in negotions around a 20 year deal.
I know Wasps state they pulled the plug on the negotiations due to the "background noise" around the legal action.
I know Wasps will seek legal advice as they are named in JR2.

So what do you know that proves any of the above is not correct?
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You know they were looking at a 20 year deal do you? Really? "Background noise" means you don't know anything of the sort. You know that's the PR statement.
I'm interested of you do know about the 20 year deal because if you do you will know the "legal noise" statement was bollocks will you not?
 
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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
You know they were looking at a 20 year deal do you? Really? "Background noise" means you don't know anything of the sort. You know that's the PR statement.
I'm interested of you do know about the 20 year deal because if you do you will know the "legal noise" statement was bollocks will you not?
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The legal noise statement is not true.
Please explain how you know this?
I get the impression you are lying and don't know that at all, however Let's hear it how do you know it's not true?
 
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georgehudson

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as CCFC's future is to be debated in Westminster,
the possibility of our club being liquidated is most unfortunately, highly likely,
who will the MP's call to address them ?
the FA ? the FL ? all parties involved since 2005 ?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
The legal noise statement is not true.
Please explain how you know this?
I get the impression you are lying and don't know that at all, however Let's hear it how do you know it's not true?
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They made a statement about "legal noise" - that's an odd thing to say and as they have often, let's be polite, contradicted themselves many times this is no evidence at all?

You also stated as fact they want to do a 20 year deal - you made the statement.
 
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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
They made a statement about "legal noise" - that's an odd thing to say and as they have often, let's be polite, contradicted themselves many times this is no evidence at all?

You also stated as fact they want to do a 20 year deal - you made the statement.
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backing up my comments.......

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/we-felt-difficult-conclude-long-11419646

Now please back up your comments that what is in the link is not true?

Without any proof from you. I am happy to conclude as normal that you are full of it.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
That's just quoting what Armstrong said. How is that evidence?

Your not being serious are you - is that it?
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So quotes from the man who was in the meeting.
Who has then stated this in the press.

Against you suggesting I am speaking bollox and know nothing.
That it isn't true and all of this by you is based on nothing.

Excellent well I am glad we got that sorted you have completely convinced me Armstrong is a liar and you know more than him. Well done
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
So quotes from the man who was in the meeting.
Who has then stated this in the press.

Against you suggesting I am speaking bollox and know nothing.
That it isn't true and all of this by you is based on nothing.

Excellent well I am glad we got that sorted you have completely convinced me Armstrong is a liar and you know more than him. Well done
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In the same meeting when asked about the legal situation being a barrier Anderson said "no" - when wasps were asked before they came here they said they'd never leave the south west.

What next - fisher said we were building a stadium so we are?

For a minute I thought you were being serious.
 
Nick

Nick

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All of this exposure stuff, how many people can say without googling what was discussed today or yesterday?
 
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dongonzalos

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Grendel said:
In the same meeting when asked about the legal situation being a barrier Anderson said "no" - when wasps were asked before they came here they said they'd never leave the south west.

What next - fisher said we were building a stadium so we are?

For a minute I thought you were being serious.
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Comedy
 
Grendel

Grendel

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dongonzalos said:
Comedy
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No just factually accurate.

If Armstrong told you the world was flat and you'd booked a round the world cruise what would you do?

Sit drooling in the corner telling the tour operator you are cancelling?
 
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