If Wasps publicly declared they wanted to buy CCFC (8 Viewers)

[Terry Gibson's perm]

No I wouldn't be comfortable being being owned by another hedge fund, they should stick to minority sports like Rugby and netball where a little money can make a massive difference, they haven't got the cash to play with the big boys

 

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[chiefdave]

It wouldn't be my preference to be owned by another hedge fund, and one that will happily move clubs across the country if it suits them. Equally I support the team and not the owners so I would still attend.

The concern was they seem obsessed with building a Wasps brand over integrating into the community. Pretty much all of our sides play in blue and have Coventry in their name. Wasps have come in and not added Coventry to their name and play in yellow and black, fair enough as they aren't a Coventry team. But why not have Coventry in the name of their netball team?

With their obsession with building the brand how long would it be before consideration was given to pushing us in that direction. Not saying it would happen over night but I see them trying to gradually bring it in.

 

[Ranjit Bhurpa]

I doubt it

Just thinking aloud really, certainly not advocating it. But an umbrella brand of football, rugby and possibly netball/basketball under one roof would be a unique and possibly appealing investment opportunity.

 

[Hobo]

Just thinking aloud really, certainly not advocating it. But an umbrella brand of football, rugby and possibly netball/basketball under one roof would be a unique and possibly appealing investment opportunity.

It would if the existing clubs were more or less self sustaining. Or you could pick them up for a £1.00 which SISU won't sell for....the clue is in the meaning of SISU.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Would you support it?

No. They can Fuck Right Off.

 

[clint van damme]

Just thinking aloud really, certainly not advocating it. But an umbrella brand of football, rugby and possibly netball/basketball under one roof would be a unique and possibly appealing investment opportunity.

I think that's the sort of model Bristol Citys owners are going for.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Absolutely f&%king not. I'd rather lick John Prescotts ball bag after running a marathon than support a team owned by Wasps. That would be it for me. I'd be out permanently.

And for the life of me, I cannot work out how some people have the audacity to whinge stupidly about a hedge fund owner (and quite rightly to be fair) but say they'd accept ownership by another hedge fund owner who are massively throwing money at their project (like we did in the 90s) and have PERMANENTLY moved a club with over 100 years of history.

The mind f&%king boggles with some of our fans....

 

[duffer]

Very True

Wasps are a brand, they don't represent a community, having said that they rely on the community for support but that's a different thing.

They've moved multiple times over the years.

Ah, the 'nomad' pretence again, you are Councillor Maton and I claim my five pounds.

Go do your research and then come back - the furthest Wasps ever moved from West London was Wycombe. Their academy has always been in West London. The current owners, when they first took over stated categorically that Wasps were a London team. The name of the team under those owners was... London Wasps.

There was in fact the opportunity to move back to London, not least of which with Brentford when they proposed building a new stadium. However, getting the Ricoh for peanuts was just too tempting for owners driven by profit rather than ethics or history. There are plenty of Wasps fans who haven't followed them. There are also more than a few CCFC fans acting as apologists for them, which I find amazing, and some that even pay money to watch them whilst they screw the (Coventry) club slowly out of existence.

As for Wasps being a global brand, that's rubbish too frankly. How many people on this board had even heard of them before they moved here? Man United (much as I dislike them) could legitimately claim to be a global brand. Rugby, much as I like it, is a minority sport.

Proof: If Coventry City were in the top four of the Premiership what do you think the attendence would be when the second best team in the Prem came to visit? Compare that figure to the attendance for Wasps v Exeter.

 

[peeler]

Ah, the 'nomad' pretence again, you are Councillor Maton and I claim my five pounds.

Go do your research and then come back - the furthest Wasps ever moved from West London was Wycombe. Their academy has always been in West London. The current owners, when they first took over stated categorically that Wasps were a London team. The name of the team under those owners was... London Wasps.

There was in fact the opportunity to move back to London, not least of which with Brentford when they proposed building a new stadium. However, getting the Ricoh for peanuts was just too tempting for owners driven by profit rather than ethics or history. There are plenty of Wasps fans who haven't followed them. There are also more than a few CCFC fans acting as apologists for them, which I find amazing, and some that even pay money to watch them whilst they screw the (Coventry) club slowly out of existence.

As for Wasps being a global brand, that's rubbish too frankly. How many people on this board had even heard of them before they moved here? Man United (much as I dislike them) could legitimately claim to be a global brand. Rugby, much as I like it, is a minority sport.

Proof: If Coventry City were in the top four of the Premiership what do you think the attendence would be when the second best team in the Prem came to visit? Compare that figure to the attendance for Wasps v Exeter.

I know the Wasps history thank you.

I think you and me are going to differ in our views greatly, so I'm not going to engage you.

 

[clint van damme]

I know the Wasps history thank you.

I think you and me are going to differ in our views greatly, so I'm not going to engage you.

surely that's the point of posting on a message board?

 

[peeler]

surely that's the point of posting on a message board?

Shue but he came across as a little aggressive and I'm not in the mood.

 

[duffer]

I know the Wasps history thank you.

I think you and me are going to differ in our views greatly, so I'm not going to engage you.

Clearly you don't know their history if you're hiding behind this 'nomad' stuff. Perhaps you're not going to engage me because there simply are no facts anywhere to back up that assertion.

Support Wasps all you will, but be man enough to admit they're a franchise if you want to earn at least a modicum of respect - this pretence that they wandered the land hither and thither in search of a ground is rather embarassing.

 

[peeler]

Clearly you don't their history if you're hiding behind this 'nomad' stuff. Perhaps you're not going to engage me because there simply are no facts anywhere to back up that assertion.

Support Wasps all you will, but be man enough to admit they're a franchise if you want to earn at least a modicum of respect - this pretence that they wandered the land hither and thither in search of a ground is rather embarassing.

ah ha! Now I understand why the tone of the post was so aggressive.

Up yours

 

[Grendel]

I know the Wasps history thank you.

I think you and me are going to differ in our views greatly, so I'm not going to engage you.

In other words he's had your pants down and you've no reply.

 

[peeler]

And in comes the forum mafia, sniffing out a kill. You really are a nasty piece of work.

 

[Captain Dart]

My dislike of SISU is the lack of any plan, let alone a viable plan. They seem void of ideas and resourcefulness.

Indeed, WTF are they doing?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

ah ha! Now I understand why the tone of the post was so aggressive.

Up yours

The problem is , Mr Peeler, that no one associated with Coventry City has any affinity or interest with Wasps. They have stolen our stadium, our home, and therefore seriously denied us the opportunity to rebuild an already ailing club. Granted other parties can take the blame, but Wasps have taken a decision knowing full well it would be to the detriment of the city's football club and to the city's rugby club. I have absolutely no interest in the game of rugby, yet I have never disliked Coventry Rugby club but respect them for who they are, their history and what they do for our city. I do however, have no respect for wasps. They may think themselves a "big club" but they have no roots in our city and time will tell how long before their bubble bursts.
12,000 for their last "home" game suggests that with almost 60% empty seats their bubble isn't that big.

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[martcov]

Absolutely f&%king not. I'd rather lick John Prescotts ball bag after running a marathon than support a team owned by Wasps. That would be it for me. I'd be out permanently.

And for the life of me, I cannot work out how some people have the audacity to whinge stupidly about a hedge fund owner (and quite rightly to be fair) but say they'd accept ownership by another hedge fund owner who are massively throwing money at their project (like we did in the 90s) and have PERMANENTLY moved a club with over 100 years of history.

The mind f&%king boggles with some of our fans....

The argument is that we should support the club regardless of SISU. Same argument would apply to Wasps owning us.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

The argument is that we should support the club regardless of SISU. Same argument would apply to Wasps owning us.

Ok, on top my reasons in my first post Mart, I'd want to be owned by someone who had football as their first sporting interest. Not Rugby.

 

[martcov]

Ok, on top my reasons in my first post Mart, I'd want to be owned by someone who had football as their first sporting interest. Not Rugby.

Well, I think interested in sporting success on it's own would be good enough. Look at Red Bull, they are involved with several sports - and are usually very successful. Success, and revitalising as in the case of RB Leipzig who are storming the Bundesliga, fits in with their image regardless of the sport.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Well, I think interested in sporting success on it's own would be good enough. Look at Red Bull, they are involved with several sports - and are usually very successful. Success, and revitalising as in the case of RB Leipzig who are storming the Bundesliga, fits in with their image regardless of the sport.

Not for me Mart. Each to their own though...


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[The Gentleman]

Ok, on top my reasons in my first post Mart, I'd want to be owned by someone who had football as their first sporting interest. Not Rugby.

Ah, that'll be Sisu then.............

Is one of your other reasons that you won't go to watch us if Wasps buy us that it's a greedy hedge fund who don't give a shite about the clubs fans and are willing to move the club at the drop of a hat?

 

[The Gentleman]

No. They can Fuck Right Off.

Would you support the team though?

 

[Gosford Green]

My guess is Wasps will not buy/ rescue us but they will point someone towards the club who think they can work with.

Whoever, hopefully they've got both the acumen and a big enough pair of bollocks to mend bridges and negotiate beneficial deals with everyone that SISU have pissed off.

Frankly, whoever it is no owner can be as bad as SISU.

 

[chiefdave]

My guess is Wasps will not buy/ rescue us but they will point someone towards the club who think they can work with.

Or someone they know will agree to what ever crap deal they offer us.

 

[dongonzalos]

Can't see the point in swapping one team moving hedge fund for another team moving hedge fund.

One owns the ACL the other one doesn't.
Only difference that could benefit us.

 

[Sick Boy]

They would loose fans if they did so it won't happen.
It's a globally recognised name.

...no it isn't.

 

[westofrayne]

NO, lets see how WASP's are doing in 2-3 years time, when do they have to start paying the bonds back? Can they survive then.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Ah, that'll be Sisu then.............?

My point being that Wasps first interest would Rugby, not football. I'd want an owner whose first interest would be football, not any other sport (but appreciate they're likely to have other business interests).

And your point about moving at the drop of a hat...we'll surely Wasps are worse...they moved permanently. As someone put earlier...it would be a case of out of the pan and into the fire.

No thanks.




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[Evo1883]

I would support it

 

[shelby76]

Thinking about it all the infastructure is in place, they already have the plans drawn up, there game is greed, imagine having a rugby club and football club, they will not say no that was there plan from day 1, wasps have stirred this up and will come out looking like saviors saving club academy blah blah blah. Game set and match. Then they could sell it on to the chinese in a few years.

 

[martcov]

No. They can Fuck Right Off.

You invite all the arguments used to counter rabid anti SISU and NOPM protesters with that comment, as it implies enough anger to stop supporting the 'Club'. Would you still support the club if an out of town hedge fund owned it ( Wasps )? I would because it is the Club I support- even with undesireable or useless owners.

 

[Bruce the Boot]

Bring it on , Sisu out NOPM

 

[italiahorse]

I would say they would put a standalone management company in to do it and just run it as a separate business.
Economies of scale would give both teams an advantage.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

I would say they would put a standalone management company in to do it and just run it as a separate business.
Economies of scale would give both teams an advantage.

Didn't you say they would run us at break even?