Business as Usual (11 Viewers)

[ccfcway]

This season TM gambled on the player market and read it all wrong - the dynamics have changed and both he and Venus seem to have messed up. Doesn't bode well if Venus is staying and taking over. He has been the one dealing with budgets and contracts

one shouldered 100% of the blame and the other is on our board and now our interim manager

 

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[Grendel]

one shouldered 100% of the blame and the other is on our board and now our interim manager

No one knows if he shouldered the blame or not

 

[martcov]

We now have no long term player, Manager, Managing Director contracts or stadium or academy leases.

No baggage that a new investor would have to pay off.

We have the name and tradition of CCFC coupled with the Golden Share for league membership.

If the debts could be written down we would be a 'desirable object' for someone wanting to build a sports club. Someone with lots of capital.

If I were Joy, I would put advertising all over the City to attract offers.

Things are not getting better, cut your losses and get out of CCFC.

She is flogging a dead horse at the Moment. Wasting her ( or her staff's ) time and energy- that could be better Applied to other ventures.

 

[covmark]

Aren't you the clown who said Mowbray was a premier league quality manager...



...just before you started calling for him to be sacked.

Tbf to grendel he could say grass is green and you'd argue against it.

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[ccfcway]

No one knows if he shouldered the blame or not

I suppose not. Here was me thinking resigning and wavering pay (despite having a contract), whilst the other is on the board and given extra responsibility at the club was at least a hint at who has fell on their sword.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Tbf to grendel he could say grass is green and you'd argue against it.

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Tbf, you'd jump to his defence..... Oh! you already have

 

[Grendel]

Aren't you the clown who said Mowbray was a premier league quality manager...



...just before you started calling for him to be sacked.

He is - that doesn't make him a good League One manager

As I previously said you could imagine him in Aldi and asking where the petis pois was and was shown to the frozen peas.

 

[shy_tall_knight]

Tend to agree with Grendel on TM but IMO last season highs were premature achieved on the back of Armstrong & Murphy who faded post Xmas as well as very poor journeymen signings.

As for Bobby G being ridiculous Oggy Killer Peake Bennett Gyn Regis Lloyd - 7 of the cup winning team also signed Gibbo & Pearce.

Second spell was also fun 5-1 Liverpool & 3-0 Villa in consecutive games - too much of a hothead I agree but better than ridiculous

 

[covmark]

Tbf, you'd jump to his defence..... Oh! you already have

How on earth do you come to the conclusion from my post that I'm defending anybody, you strange man.

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[trevelfarandwide]

So another manager goes.

I have read much guff on the subject today. I have seen many managers come and go - not too many were sublime (Sillett was the best) but many ridiculous (Gould, Coleman, Adams) and some just plain garbage (Thorn and MacKay)

Where would we class Mowbray? Well in truth I would say he has left me more angry than any.

Thorn was a buffoon who hadn't a clue.

Mowbray certainly had a clue. A high pedigree manager with a great reputation. A real Beef Wellington in a division that is more used to the taste of a Fray Bentos steak pie.

Then we get to a position of top of the league. We have Murphy who now looks destined for the premier league, a free scoring centre forward and Mowbray at the helm.

Then the crash. From league champions elect to the worst team in the league. Promotion gone.

I felt his performance last season post Christmas was beyond unacceptable

We are now obsessed budgets. Even the ridiculous (Gould) and the garbage (Mackay) managed with a rag tag squad of players to maintain focus, energy, momentum and belief. Minimum expectancy from a manager
They, despite their limitations, managed to get an over achievement from mediocre players.

Mowbray's abject failure to at least achieve play offs from the position the club was in and the players at his disposal was enough to justify his dismissal. His lamentable performance this season made it inevitable.

He has failed the club and he has failed the fans.

I have just cut into my Beef Wellington and it looks a bit like Fray Bentos to me - and it leaves a very bitter taste.

Couldn't have put it better myself, this echoes my feelings almost exactly.

TM has gone, rightfully so, but it leaves the question: where from here? I still cannot see any manager succeeding in the climate of CCFC. Quite the opposite, in fact.

 

[skybluebeduff]

That's a compliment surely. Aren't you the clown that reckons Pressley will be a premier league manager?

Yep, he's also the clown who told us before Fisher mentioned it, that stadium plans were weeks away, 3 years ago

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Tbf to grendel he could say grass is green and you'd argue against it.

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By this post! Strange boy!

 

[skybluetony176]

He is - that doesn't make him a good League One manager

As I previously said you could imagine him in Aldi and asking where the petis pois was and was shown to the frozen peas.

So you're now saying it was SISU's fault for employing a manager who was too good for the league. Funny because you were saying we should all praise SISU for his appointment at the time. Duality, duality, duality.

 

[Grendel]

So you're now saying it was SISU's fault for employing a manager who was too good for the league. Funny because you were saying we should all praise SISU for his appointment at the time. Duality, duality, duality.

No Tony you said no one would want the job and sisu weren't interested - the fact Mowbray wanted the job and the fact the club invested in him and the back room staff - showed you to be incorrect.

 

[skybluetony176]

Tbf to grendel he could say grass is green and you'd argue against it.

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TBF if Grendull said that grass was green I wouldn't need to argue against it. I'd just have to wait five minutes until grass being a different colour suits his argument and he'd change the colour all by myself without me arguing it. I've just happened to point that out, not argued anything.

 

[Grendel]

TBF if Grendull said that grass was green I wouldn't need to argue against it. I'd just have to wait five minutes until grass being a different colour suits his argument and he'd change the colour all by myself without me arguing it. I've just happened to point that out, not argued anything.

Actually Tony I'd just say it and you'd reply. Everyone on here knows you worship me and I play a major part in your life Tony,

I consider you my own community project.

 

[Perryccfc]

You talk some bollocks at times Grendel

 

[usskyblue]

A high pedigree manager with a great reputation.

Mowbray's list of managerial achievements:

West Bromwich Albion
Football League Championship: 2007–08

The End

Pedigree Chum

 

[skybluetony176]

No Tony you said no one would want the job and sisu weren't interested - the fact Mowbray wanted the job and the fact the club invested in him and the back room staff - showed you to be incorrect.

A) the club didn't invest in him. The budget was the budget. TM actually made the point of not asking for extra investment. All the extra staff and doing things like routine maintenance that hadn't been done for god knows how long under SISU had to come out of a playing budget that would have been the same budget if TM took the job or not.

B) I pointed out that TM had failed in his last job in the championship and as often happens in that scenario he dropped a league for his next appointment, thus making him a league one standard manager. You went ape shit insisting that despite his track record he was a premier league standard manager and it was a real coup from SISU and we should all be kissing their butts. This all happened not long before you started to start threads telling us all where he'd got it wrong and leading very quickly up to him having to go.

You've got more faces than a clock tower. You lay all the blame on TM yet if we'd got promoted this season you wanted to give all the credit to SISU.

The only thing that TM was too good for was these shitty owners we're lumbered with.

 

[Seaside-Skyblue]

So another manager goes.

I have read much guff on the subject today. I have seen many managers come and go - not too many were sublime (Sillett was the best) but many ridiculous (Gould, Coleman, Adams) and some just plain garbage (Thorn and MacKay)

Where would we class Mowbray? Well in truth I would say he has left me more angry than any.

Thorn was a buffoon who hadn't a clue.

Mowbray certainly had a clue. A high pedigree manager with a great reputation. A real Beef Wellington in a division that is more used to the taste of a Fray Bentos steak pie.

Then we get to a position of top of the league. We have Murphy who now looks destined for the premier league, a free scoring centre forward and Mowbray at the helm.

Then the crash. From league champions elect to the worst team in the league. Promotion gone.

I felt his performance last season post Christmas was beyond unacceptable

We are now obsessed budgets. Even the ridiculous (Gould) and the garbage (Mackay) managed with a rag tag squad of players to maintain focus, energy, momentum and belief. Minimum expectancy from a manager
They, despite their limitations, managed to get an over achievement from mediocre players.

Mowbray's abject failure to at least achieve play offs from the position the club was in and the players at his disposal was enough to justify his dismissal. His lamentable performance this season made it inevitable.

He has failed the club and he has failed the fans.

I have just cut into my Beef Wellington and it looks a bit like Fray Bentos to me - and it leaves a very bitter taste.

The beef Wellington stuff made me chuckle!

 

[Pete in Portugal]

What's wrong with Frey Bentos?

It's meat, that's what's wrong with it.

 

[wingy]

I thought this'd all be meat jokes by now.

What's your Beef? B-)

 

[ecky]

We are papering over the gaping cracks in keep changing the manager, the real problem is still there.

What amazes me is the silence coming from the club? No statement no nothing...but then it is sisu

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I think he's just saying Mowbray is pasty his best.

***Rubs eyes*** "Otis...is that you?"


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[dongonzalos]

We are papering over the gaping cracks in keep changing the manager, the real problem is still there.

What amazes me is the silence coming from the club? No statement no nothing...but then it is sisu

Agree with your first paragraph. You would have to be half soaked not to finally realise now that there is a reason we are going through managers like boxes of tissues in a peep show. It's not the managers, nobody can be that unlucky. Only one thing hasn't changed in 9 years.

However your second paragraph is wrong they have done a statement.

I am looking forward to TM's opinions over the next few months.
He is in the fortunate position of not having to play the party line due to pay offs.
However he is ever the professional so it will be interesting to see what he says.

 

[Steve.B50]

What's your Beef? B-)

Wingy
Do you still have the coffin?

 

[johnwillomagic]

I think TM has done honourable thing - he had to go, think I could have managed us to win at least one this year.
Plenty of decent managers out there who need to get back into management ....very rare not to have a pick up when new manager comes in.
Would be very surprised if not upturn in fortunes

 

[wingy]

Wingy
Do you still have the coffin?

Yeah.
Don't know what shape it's in though.
In a damp shed for five years now.

 

[Deleted member 2477]

He is - that doesn't make him a good League One manager

As I previously said you could imagine him in Aldi and asking where the petis pois was and was shown to the frozen peas.

Whats a petis pois.
Is that the Sisu cheap version of petit pois

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

WHAT a buffoon you are GRendel, I nearly fell of my sun bed and split my pina colada . . What world do you live in ..?

Fantasy Island, maybe ? anda:

 

[wingy]

Agree with your first paragraph. You would have to be half soaked not to finally realise now that there is a reason we are going through mangers like a boxes of tissues in a peep show. It's not the managers nobody can be that unlucky. Only one thing hasn't changed in 9 years.

However your second paragraph is wrong they have done a statement.

I am looking forward to TM's opinions over the next few months.
He is in the fortunate position of not having to play the party line due to pay offs.
However he is ever the professional so it will be interesting to see what he says.

Seems to have accelerated both in status and managerial turnover since that bearded twat rocked up.
His silence an indictment, long may that continue.
Get the c**t out of the club.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

We are papering over the gaping cracks in keep changing the manager, the real problem is still there.

What amazes me is the silence coming from the club? No statement no nothing...but then it is sisu

TM has resigned and the club released a statement detailing his resignation and that MV wil take charge on Saturday.

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/statement-coventry-city-tony-mowbray-manager-3336249.aspx

 

[ccfcway]

What amazes me is the silence coming from the club? No statement no nothing...but then it is sisu

Club is bottom of the league. all TM's fault and he has now gone, we now have a director of the club (who was responsible for recruitment and the budget) managing the team.

Why would our owners say anything to the fans ?

 

[robbiekeane]

Could we have kept Martin? Was his wage a stumbling block? We all can assume the budget was cut in the summer we just don't know how much.

So Mowbray is a liar then as he said it wasnt different to last years ?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

So another manager goes.

I have read much guff on the subject today. I have seen many managers come and go - not too many were sublime (Sillett was the best) but many ridiculous (Gould, Coleman, Adams) and some just plain garbage (Thorn and MacKay)

Where would we class Mowbray? Well in truth I would say he has left me more angry than any.

Thorn was a buffoon who hadn't a clue.

Mowbray certainly had a clue. A high pedigree manager with a great reputation. A real Beef Wellington in a division that is more used to the taste of a Fray Bentos steak pie.

Then we get to a position of top of the league. We have Murphy who now looks destined for the premier league, a free scoring centre forward and Mowbray at the helm.

Then the crash. From league champions elect to the worst team in the league. Promotion gone.

I felt his performance last season post Christmas was beyond unacceptable

We are now obsessed budgets. Even the ridiculous (Gould) and the garbage (Mackay) managed with a rag tag squad of players to maintain focus, energy, momentum and belief. Minimum expectancy from a manager
They, despite their limitations, managed to get an over achievement from mediocre players.

Mowbray's abject failure to at least achieve play offs from the position the club was in and the players at his disposal was enough to justify his dismissal. His lamentable performance this season made it inevitable.

He has failed the club and he has failed the fans.

I have just cut into my Beef Wellington and it looks a bit like Fray Bentos to me - and it leaves a very bitter taste.

So Mowbray is a liar then as he said it wasnt different to last years ?

No it just wasn't that good last year