Fit and Proper Persons (11 Viewers)

Voice_of_Reason

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Is it possible to officially request/complain to the Football League that sisu/Opium are not fit and Proper owners of ccfc? We believe they are not in compliance with the League's own guidelines?
 

Captain Dart

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No. That is why Damien Collins MP is campaigning to improve the governance of football so unsuitable owners can be excluded.
 

chiefdave

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Is it possible to officially request/complain to the Football League that sisu/Opium are not fit and Proper owners of ccfc? We believe they are not in compliance with the League's own guidelines?
You could ask them but they are highly unlikely to do anything. Past being crap owners which isn't really a league criteria on what basis do you think they fail the test in its current form?
 

Frankley

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Is it possible to officially request/complain to the Football League that sisu/Opium are not fit and Proper owners of ccfc? We believe they are not in compliance with the League's own guidelines?

Just because we don't like how they are running the club doesn't make them not fit and proper people in the eyes of the football league.

Also, in the general scheme of things they aren't the worst owners the league has had:

- The then owner of Doncaster Rovers (Ken Richardson) tried to burn the ground down - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/263947.stm

- The majority shareholder of Blackpool (Owen Oyston) got six years for rape - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/oyston-gets-six-years-for-rape-1348681.html

- The owner of Chesterfield (Darren Brown) used the club's money to fund his other personal business ventures - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1499006/Chairman-jailed-for-milking-football-club-dry.html
 

The Gentleman

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Just because we don't like how they are running the club doesn't make them not fit and proper people in the eyes of the football league.

Also, in the general scheme of things they aren't the worst owners the league has had:

- The then owner of Doncaster Rovers (Ken Richardson) tried to burn the ground down - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/263947.stm

- The majority shareholder of Blackpool (Owen Oyston) got six years for rape - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/oyston-gets-six-years-for-rape-1348681.html

- The owner of Chesterfield (Darren Brown) used the club's money to fund his other personal business ventures - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1499006/Chairman-jailed-for-milking-football-club-dry.html

We don't yet know the full extent of what Sisu have done to our club.
 

oldfiver

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Is it possible to officially request/complain to the Football League that sisu/Opium are not fit and Proper owners of ccfc? We believe they are not in compliance with the League's own guidelines?

Quick answer is - you can but without some sort of evidence they will ignore you
Not being good at the job does not make them "unfit people"
 

chiefdave

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Not being good at the job does not make them "unfit people"
Realistically they won't go back as far as Sixfields, they'd look at what's happening now. So you'd look at not having a long term deal at the Ricoh - Wasps have publicly stated they ended talks and won't now talk to the club; not building a new ground - just need to shows CCCs attempts to block professional football at the Butts; or finally the lack of player budget - SISU would just say they are trying to make the club self sustaining which is hard to argue against.
Even if they sold Ryton that doesn't break any rules. Portsmouth train at the local Roku and were in the local park before that.
So on what basis would any claim be made?
 

georgehudson

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song for TF & those it suits ;
Harvey Mandel - The Snake
PUSB,
also for Hendrix aficionado's
James Thackery - Still Raining Still Dreaming - 9/10
 

The Lurker

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Who cares when it was. They moved us and attendances since then have dropped and lost fans He's say there not the worst owners. Can't see any other team getting moved 30 miles away
 
Attendances last season were higher than those the season immediately before the move. All the furore and protest is only because we're near the bottom of the table.

Doubt it. The guardian article today shows the depth of ccfc troubles. The football 'authorities' are totally useless.There's some on the Charlton board that wouldn't mind seeing saturday's game abandoned to draw attention (- not been done before and tbh not going to happen without your support). In time that's the kind of demo that will likely make a difference, when fans show we've really had enough that we want them out more than the result of one particular game.
 

fernandopartridge

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Doubt it. The guardian article today shows the depth of ccfc troubles. The football 'authorities' are totally useless.There's some on the Charlton board that wouldn't mind seeing saturday's game abandoned to draw attention (- not been done before and tbh not going to happen without your support). In time that's the kind of demo that will likely make a difference, when fans show we've really had enough that we want them out more than the result of one particular game.
It's a fact Delboy.
 

ps1948

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Who cares when it was. They moved us and attendances since then have dropped and lost fans He's say there not the worst owners. Can't see any other team getting moved 30 miles away
MK Dons? And that was permanent...........
 

shmmeee

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No mate, 10's of thousands refuse to go because of shit ownership.

Which leads to bad football.

Let's not kid ourselves, we wouldn't give a shit if we were top of the league. That's the point. It doesn't really matter what the owners are doing if it's working. Problem is it's blatantly not. Last season we looked like we were making progress on and off the pitch, now we aren't.

That's kind of how business works: create a product people want and you have a business. Run it into the ground through incompetence and stubbornness and you don't. No one's fault but your own.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Just because we don't like how they are running the club doesn't make them not fit and proper people in the eyes of the football league.

Also, in the general scheme of things they aren't the worst owners the league has had:

- The then owner of Doncaster Rovers (Ken Richardson) tried to burn the ground down - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/263947.stm

- The majority shareholder of Blackpool (Owen Oyston) got six years for rape - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/oyston-gets-six-years-for-rape-1348681.html

- The owner of Chesterfield (Darren Brown) used the club's money to fund his other personal business ventures - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1499006/Chairman-jailed-for-milking-football-club-dry.html

Maybe not criminally the worst but in terms of total incompetence?
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Attendances last season were higher than those the season immediately before the move. All the furore and protest is only because we're near the bottom of the table.

I think being near the bottom makes protest and discontent more likely. However the reason for the protests and discontent is the total mismanagement of the club and everything else that has gone with it.
 

Grendel

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No mate, 10's of thousands refuse to go because of shit ownership.

We had 17,000 last season against port vale.

Nothing to do with league position. Bravo sisu.
 

georgehudson

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an observation here,
is that last season, vs gillingham @ 1/2 time,
ccfc were riding high, top of the table, & down in the concourse, in singers corner,
there was a huge continued shout for sisu out,
the continued abuse they have heaped upon the supporters, has scarred, & will stay forever,
a few may have been taken in by their veils of supposed comfort,
but not the hard core majority who feel the pain of their continued abuse of the fans,
imho, that is
PUSB
 

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