Another Guardian article (6 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Kid]

Success and a decent product certainly does do that, this match was living proof of it.

FFS Dongo... Don't confuse the issue with fact and common sense man!!!!

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

you prioritise beer over ccfc? chav

Errrr wasn't Fisher doing the same 4 years ago?

 

[covcity4life]

more fans=bigger budget=more success and a decent product?

now if you think sisu would 100% not increas eour player budget if we went from 11k to 32k every week then:

1)shows how bad sisu have been to date
2)shows how silly some fans can read a situation due to point 1

 

[Joy Division]

Tell them its a JPT regional final against Crewe. That should guarantee over 30k.

We're bottom of league 1 buddy.

 

[torchomatic]

We're bottom of league 1 buddy.

Makes no difference. Chance of a Wembley trip and we'd have a sell-out. I wonder how many of t hose who've missed the early rounds of the Checkatrade will suddenly decide they like the competition if we continue to progress?

 

[covcity4life]

We're bottom of league 1 buddy.

1 win could take us ahead of millwall. still so early into season

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

more fans=bigger budget=more success and a decent product?

now if you think sisu would 100% not increas eour player budget if we went from 11k to 32k every week then:

1)shows how bad sisu have been to date
2)shows how silly some fans can read a situation due to point 1

Ah! but SISU moving the "Goal posts" doesn't help one iota does it! We could pack the Ricoh out every other week but SISU would find some excuse as to why we won't be breaking even

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

he has a point. i think 32k attendence for chesterfield would do more good than a boycott would.

Have we got 32 000 people with sufficient level of interest to turn up?

 

[covcity4life]

Have we got 32 000 people with sufficient level of interest to turn up?

probably not.

but we do have 20k i imagine. because they all come running back once wembley is on horizen

 

[Skyblueweeman]

So if we get 20k fans at Ricoh every week. We would have a top six playing budget and a realistic chance of promotion to the championship. We would make the negotiating position with Wasps stronger.

It would make the negotiations FOR Wasps stronger as well to be fair. "Oh look, they've got more fans...more money...let's charge them more".

We know what those pesky hedge funds are like. Especially when they owe at least £35m to others.

 

[covcity4life]

if we are in championship wasps would want us around as we advertise ricoh more than they do as football much bigger than rugby

rugby premier is same as league 1

championship and prem footy far exceed highest point of club rugby

 

[Captain Dart]

1)where has he blamed fans? hes a posted a comment saying he sees more promise in packing the ricoh than boycotting it.

2)i dont even think sisu have blamed the fans, they are just saying more fans helps us with ffp which is a fact

3) you are defensive because your dad caused this sorry mess in the first place

This is putting the cart before the horse.

 

[Joy Division]

Makes no difference. Chance of a Wembley trip and we'd have a sell-out. I wonder how many of t hose who've missed the early rounds of the Checkatrade will suddenly decide they like the competition if we continue to progress?

Absolutely no chance of selling out if we got to the JPT semi final now, too much has happened in between the years of that happening and now.

 

[covcity4life]

Absolutely no chance of selling out if we got to the JPT semi final now, too much has happened in between the years of that happening and now.

just last year we got 18k for gillingham. what have sisu done since then? not purchased adam armstrong?????

 

[skybluetony176]

more fans=bigger budget=more success and a decent product?

now if you think sisu would 100% not increas eour player budget if we went from 11k to 32k every week then:

1)shows how bad sisu have been to date
2)shows how silly some fans can read a situation due to point 1

3) could mean we find out how real the debt is and start paying some interest at the expense of a larger playing budget.

No one knows for sure and certainly you can't blame anyone for not trusting SISU to put the club first.

Although personally the only thing that would stop me going at the moment would be if I stopped enjoying it, which the feel I'm nowhere near now. I'm certainly not going to boycott in the hope that SISU sell up. I'm about as convinced personally of that happening as I am that SISU will build up stadium.

But its a personal choice and I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for boycotting.

 

[covcity4life]

yup agree. i am pretty much the same

its a shame some posters like shmee have such a my way or the highway view and thus show no respect to fellow forum members

 

[torchomatic]

Absolutely no chance of selling out if we got to the JPT semi final now, too much has happened in between the years of that happening and now.

Disagree. A sniff of Wembley or one of the Premiership Big Boys in the Cup and we'd have a sell-out. SISU or no SISU. Not likely to happen anyway.

 

[Joy Division]

just last year we got 18k for gillingham. what have sisu done since then? not purchased adam armstrong?????

*15,000

*Not purchased anyone

 

[wingy]

if we are in championship wasps would want us around as we advertise ricoh more than they do as football much bigger than rugby

rugby premier is same as league 1

championship and prem footy far exceed highest point of club rugby

Not quite correct
Prem rugby income very much on a par with the Championship

 

[covcity4life]

who did we purchase season prior? vincelot and thats about it

this time we signed turnball and reid from teams in higher division. the money in budget was still used

 

[covcity4life]

Not quite correct
Prem rugby income very much on a par with the Championship

its a bag of shit sport. no one cares about it

 

[jas365]

Makes no difference. Chance of a Wembley trip and we'd have a sell-out. I wonder how many of t hose who've missed the early rounds of the Checkatrade will suddenly decide they like the competition if we continue to progress?

I've been to pretty much every away league game in the last 25 years, but this trophy holds virtually no interest for me, the only games i'm bothered about are if we draw a team away and it's a new ground for me (I've only got 9 left to do out of the 92). As a result I miss the vast majority of these games. However I did go to both legs vs Crewe, and of course I would've gone to the final had we made it there.

 

[Rodders1]

The article is flawed in my opinion.

Football is not business in the true normal commercial world of business. And certainly not when you buy a club outside of the prem. SISU had a go and failed, there's no coming back from this for them now.

There will be interested buyers for the club. The are only 92 league clubs of which few sit within a city win one club and is the 8th most populous- huge potential. So I've no doubt at least one or more buyers are out there.

SISU 1st have to admit defeat to themselves before then putting the club up for sale. That sale price has to be realistic- not based around what ever debt they believe they're owed. Possibly payments based on promotion would suit both sides of any deal.

 

[rondog1973]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/oct/12/coventry-city-decline-despair-league-one

Saw this comment below the line from a neutral that sums my view up too:

Expecting 20,000+ fans to turn up given our current status is about as realistic as Tim Fishers 7000+ projections for Sixfields.

Fans are Fans, but they are punters too. Misguided in the extreme to think fans will have faith in the current regime utilising the revenue boost of 20k+ crowds for the betterment of the playing squad when the piss take pretence of new stadium site searching lingers on....

 

[covcity4life]

Expecting 20,000+ fans to turn up given our current status is about as realistic as Tim Fishers 7000+ projections for Sixfields.



Fans are Fans, but they are punters too. Misguided in the extreme to think fans will have faith in the current regime utilising the revenue boost of 20k+ crowds for the betterment of the playing squad when the piss take pretence of new stadium site searching lingers on....

What current status? Being. Bottom? We will be mid table by xmass.

 

[rondog1973]

What current status? Being. Bottom? We will be mid table by xmass.

Mid table's gonna bring 20k+ crowds?

 

[clint van damme]

Disagree. A sniff of Wembley or one of the Premiership Big Boys in the Cup and we'd have a sell-out. SISU or no SISU. Not likely to happen anyway.

You're joking, Our name is on this years Checkatrade trophy!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

But its a personal choice and I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for boycotting.

I agree on the whole.

I do get worried by the backwards logic of some however, who think starving SISU of funds will get people what they want. In that respect, it ties into the OP where I'd be pretty sure a full house would make a better statement. Again, however... it's not exactly surprising if we don't get them atm, is it(!)

So I'd say by all means don't give them your cash if you don't want to, but don't expect the direct consequence of that is wine and roses down the line.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Makes no difference. Chance of a Wembley trip and we'd have a sell-out. I wonder how many of t hose who've missed the early rounds of the Checkatrade will suddenly decide they like the competition if we continue to progress?

Same as most clubs

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

thing is. i am just desperate for SOMETHING TO WORK. i am not hating on boycotters or those that go games because without everyone agreeing none of them will work

as it stands i will go on the march, protest by the statue and then sneak off into the game! i am being serious

Sneak off into the game, no chance will chain you to the Jimmy Hill Statue. :nailbiting:

 

[SkyblueBazza]

D'y know my recently deceased dad (God bless him) said to me when I was celebrating the Ricoh build announcement (& I can hear him so clearly in my head) "You'll regret it in 10-20years. Every club that builds a new stadium with huge outside financing runs into trouble - you wait & see"

The older we get the wiser we get!

...onwards & upwards PUSB

 

[Moff]

We're bottom of league 1 buddy.

I know, but a sniff of Wembley would bring many out of the woodwork.

I was going to suggest we need some joy in our lives, then I thought lets give that pun a miss.

 

[torchomatic]

Same as most clubs

Totally agree, which is why it would happen again regardless of SISU.

 

[Astute]

more fans=bigger budget=more success and a decent product?

More fans=break even attendances goes higher.

Selling players with 50% of money received going into the players budget=no extra money going in.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Totally agree, which is why it would happen again regardless of SISU.

Yes and then back to 8000 again. But I just love the fact that the Crewe game is always brought up,if anything that game shows the potential of this club. The price was the same as all semi finals we I think had the biggest crowd ever for this competition apart from Wembley.