Cancel the boycott (30 Viewers)

[Bruce the Boot]

Not sure what is worse; your attitude or the fact people actually agree with you.

Thanks for your input. Im sorry my attitude and others does nt match your own .

 

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[letsallsingtogether]

Its been done the wrong way round. There should have been a boycott when we were top of the league, would have had much more impact.

Im not boycotting Saturday when the club and the players need me more than ever.

Why Do they need you.
Sitting there quietly just slagging off the fans.
I'm sure they haven't even noticed you.

I too am also attending at this moment,
But it has nothing to do with the they need me bullshit.

 

[AndreasB]

So, Steve Brown is now the leader of this protest is he? A man who has a disturbingly Far Right set of interests on Twitter - Pegida, "Islamist Watch", Jayda Fransen of "Britain First" "Sharia unveiled" "Stop immigration UK", LibertyGB Tommy Robinson "Ban the Burka" "Wasps" etc etc.
He should be well qualified to lead a march. Brownshirts at the ready!

 

[Nick]

you either didn't read what I said or just (as I think ) chose to ignor it , you really are putting in a poor performance on this one, nah !

No, what you said is the fans should be united. (which I agree with).

So to battle this, everybody must agree because somebody arranged a boycott (which is quite divisive).

It isn't really a poor performance, it's common sense.

 

[the rumpo kid]

Rumpo, I admire your passion, I really do. There are fewer and fewer people with the desire you show. It needs harnessing correctly though otherwise it loses it's value and that's where I think his whole thing needs leadership from someone with a lot more social intelligence than anything that has been displayed so far. There are many people out there who need the details - what are we trying to achieve through this specific action and how? It's not getting bogged down in the details - understanding the cause and effect is an important tool in getting a particular type of person to buy into a movement. Blind faith, which is what you are essentially advocating, simply will not wash with a lot of people.
We've already had the start, the marker as you called it, at Charlton. Now we should be changing the pigs for sky blue elephants and doing that again for the televised Sheffield United game on Dec 15th.
- The black SISU OUT scarves should be ordered too - it might be a silent, passive protest but it's unifying and therefore valuable for that alone and if you don't like singing SISU OUT, well you can just hold it up instead so our simpletons can still see you care.
- Fisher should be pressured into as many interviews/engagements with the fans as possible, he's said he will talk to us, so let's make him squirm on CWR - he will drop the ball eventually over something.
- A new boycott arranged for the next home cup tie - a boycott IS a powerful tool if used correctly. Rochdale is a waste for many reasons, the next home cup tie is a lot less divisive.
- Pressure on Wasps to talk - get them to come up with a rent proposal which will in turn put the pressure back onto SISU. If we have to attend one of their matches to get their attention, then so be it.
- There's plenty of other ideas been thrown around on here too, I clearly don't have all the answers
- Market things better. There's simply too many splinter groups now and my 65 year old Dad isn't gonna know where the hell to look for what is going on or where. Get a Trust representative at the JH statue every game with a flier/scarf/SISU OUT badge etc and a section up on this site, so everyone always knows where to go for info or to submit an idea.

The short term actions have to be simple and aimed at unification because we are a fractured, disillusioned fan base. The more controversial ideas need to follow that.

while I agree with much that you say, I also have to say talk is cheap. who do you want to get a trust representative ? me ? or are you going to do it ? im not blindly following anybody either. someone has organised this, and I just feel its time for me to do my bit however small. its time for me to get of my arse and show that as a city fan the treatment shown us by the clubs owners isn't acceptable. I will support as many protests in the future as I can , if I agree with the methord or not, (short of violence).

 

[the rumpo kid]

No, what you said is the fans should be united. (which I agree with).

So to battle this, everybody must agree because somebody arranged a boycott (which is quite divisive).

It isn't really a poor performance, it's common sense.

now you being a twat

 

[Bruce the Boot]

No, what you said is the fans should be united. (which I agree with).

So to battle this, everybody must agree because somebody arranged a boycott (which is quite divisive).

.

You agree as long as its suites your own agenda , You disagree wit .

now you being a twat

Nicks just "wumming"

 

[Nick]

now you being a twat

How?

You are saying we can't go on being divided, which is the plus of a boycott.

 

[Nick]

You agree as long as its suites your own agenda , You disagree wit .


Nicks just "wumming"

Have you not gone back to the telegraph site yet with the rest of the clever bunch?

what are you on about agree if it suits my agenda?

Who would agree that a boycott is the best way to bring fans together FFS? It is taking it back to the Northampton days.

 

[skybluebeduff]

One last time, there is a march Saturday too that everyone can be involved in without spoiling your football fix.

 

[Bruce the Boot]

Have you not gone back to the telegraph site yet with the rest of the clever bunch?

what are you on about agree if it suits my agenda?

Who would agree that a boycott is the best way to bring fans together FFS? It is taking it back to the Northampton days.

So your views unite the fans do they ? Dont post on the telegraph Nick , so stop throwing that one .

 

[Nick]

So your views unite the fans do they ? Dont post on the telegraph Nick , so stop throwing that one .

What are you talking about now?

My personal views are a bit different to a boycott aren't they?

I have said for how many months / years that fans being united should be done first before anything else. I have said that instead of shouting X or Y out it should be about bringing the fans together first and foremost and being about CCFC.

A protest / action / method that involves bringing fans together will probably not get rid of SISU the same as the march, but it would at least bring fans together.

The way you do that is either by covering all bases, or by making it about something nobody can argue with. (ie Love of ccfc, jimmy hill legacy fund). Have a look through posts on here for example, look at the threads about the olden days of ccfc or the legacy fund. It doesnt matter what political views about it all people have, people get along.

 

[the rumpo kid]

nick you are the most divisive person who has posted on this thread. you want change but you want someone else to do it for you, in a way you have given your approval too, maybe you should have a lie down and think about what you want for the club and come up with some way of achieving it , and start a thread "FIGHT THE NICK WAY" nail your colours to the mast. as for me , my colours are sky blue and ill do what I can to help remove this sisu cancer from the club. say what you like now , I have to get back to life .

 

[Astute]

I'm attending the game based on my thoughts a boycott is ineffective.

1) NOPM does not effect SISU, if the club loses money, they'll just sell a player to cover the shortfall. Next target more than likely Stevenson.

They will sell players whatever the attendances are.

 

[Nick]

nick you are the most divisive person who has posted on this thread. you want change but you want someone else to do it for you, in a way you have given your approval too, maybe you should have a lie down and think about what you want for the club and come up with some way of achieving it , and start a thread "FIGHT THE NICK WAY" nail your colours to the mast. as for me , my colours are sky blue and ill do what I can to help remove this sisu cancer from the club. say what you like now , I have to get back to life .

What have I said that's divisive in this thread? That a boycott is not going to help the fans unite?

 

[Bruce the Boot]

What are you talking about now?

My personal views are a bit different to a boycott aren't they?

I have said for how many months / years that fans being united should be done first before anything else. I have said that instead of shouting X or Y out it should be about bringing the fans together first and foremost and being about CCFC.

A protest / action / method that involves bringing fans together will probably not get rid of SISU the same as the march, but it would at least bring fans together.

The way you do that is either by covering all bases, or by making it about something nobody can argue with. (ie Love of ccfc, jimmy hill legacy fund). Have a look through posts on here for example, look at the threads about the olden days of ccfc or the legacy fund. It doesnt matter what political views about it all people have, people get along.

Heres a start for you NICK, somebody has organised a protest against Rochdale Saturday , YOUR support would be welcomed to unite the fans against failing owners .....

 

[Nick]

Heres a start for you NICK, somebody has organised a protest against Rochdale Saturday , YOUR support would be welcomed to unite the fans against failing owners .....

It isn't uniting the fans, that's the point. As we have seen by yours and Beduff's posts in this thread.

 

[skybluebeduff]

They will sell players whatever the attendances are.

Exactly, we averaged 15k the year when we sold Juke, and only had to pay £100k rent.

 

[skybluebeduff]

It isn't uniting the fans, that's the point. As we have seen by yours and Beduff's posts in this thread.

Enlighten me where I have forced people to agree with me?

See post #91

Don't make stuff up without proving it first.

 

[Bruce the Boot]

It isn't uniting the fans, that's the point. As we have seen by yours and Beduff's posts in this thread.

Is it not ? Oh thats because it does nt agree with you . I await your try at uniting the fans .

 

[Nick]

Is it not ? Oh thats because it does nt agree with you . I await your try at uniting the fans .

No, it is because you were having a go at somebody for saying they wanted to go into a game to watch their football team.

You are either not very clever or on the wind up.

Can people seriously say a boycott, or anything that makes people "choose" like that isn't divisive?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Didn't CA

They will sell players whatever the attendances are.

correct, and we always have done. The problem is a boycott gives them an excuse to sell players.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Exactly, we averaged 15k the year when we sold Juke, and only had to pay £100k rent.

Weren't that before the rent strike? If so we were paying 1.2 million

 

[Bruce the Boot]

No, it is because you were having a go at somebody for saying they wanted to go into a game to watch their football team.

You are either not very clever or on the wind up.

Can people seriously say a boycott, or anything that makes people "choose" like that isn't divisive?

Still waiting for you to organise something that unites the fans .

 

[Bruce the Boot]

. The problem is a boycott gives them an excuse to sell players.

They dont need excuses .

 

[skybluebeduff]

Weren't that before the rent strike? If so we were paying 1.2 million

No we were paying £100k when we sold Juke in January after we originally crazily allowed him to join Boro on loan first.

We also sold for cash Turner and Aron that season too.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

We sold Juke whilst in the championship, I'm sure we started the rent strike the end of that season

 

[italiahorse]

Fans must do what they want to do.
Some want to protest, like me, as they want Sisu to know they are not wanted here.
Some want to protest, but like me, not while the players are on the pitch.
Some just want to watch the football, similar to attending Northampton and don't want to protest for a multitude of reasons. Good luck to them.
But surely we can all unite in the fact that no one wants them here any more.
Yes it will be futile what ever you do, as Sisu have not ever taken into consideration the fans.
It's all about them and how they get out of here, taking as much money with them as they can.
The only people being divisive are the ones that slag off fellow fans because they disagree with the way they want to get rid of Sisu.

 

[skybluebeduff]

Didn't CA

correct, and we always have done. The problem is a boycott gives them an excuse to sell players.

They've been doing it with or without boycotts, Tim has said that is their business model.

 

[Monners]

Tis a silly thread.

 

[skybluebeduff]

Tis a silly thread.

Show one thread that never ended farcically

 

[torchomatic]

Still think it should have been done last season when we were still doing well. This boycott smacks of only doing something because we're bottom of the league. If we were in the top ten, there wouldn't be the slightest hint of a protest.

 

[Monners]

Show one thread that never ended farcically

Fact? Link?

 

[torchomatic]

Thanks for your input. Im sorry my attitude and others does nt match your own .

Well, calling fellow fans TOSSERS isn't the way to go if you truly want to be "united". I don't think you do. A good opportunity to slag fans as well as SISU.

 

[Bruce the Boot]

Still think it should have been done last season when we were still doing well. This boycott smacks of only doing something because we're bottom of the league. If we were in the top ten, there wouldn't be the slightest hint of a protest.

Good point , but some peoples emotions are blinded by results , A win and people forget the bigger picture , well some do Nopm people dont .