letsallsingtogether
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Eisenstein.
If you had read all the posts on here you would have known that.
Or did you work it out all by yourself.
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If you had read all the posts on here you would have known that.
Or did you work it out all by yourself.
Grendel
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Don't worry Tony there were several UKIP tweets do you can have a good chin wag about how to get the party back up and running.
letsallsingtogether
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It's ok I have burnt all the edl banners now.
Esoterica
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I'm honestly struggling to believe that you can miss the point by such a margin, without it being deliberate. My very first sentence you have just replied to clearly stated 'The march's purpose is not in question'. So no, it wouldn't be an Orange march. Would you expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda just because the subject of the protest happens to be a common ground? Or a black guy in America to join a procession lead by someone who also happened to openly be a KKK member in order to save their local American Football team?
covcity4life
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when do you start on the crosses?
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letsallsingtogether
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Burn them on the route if you like.when do you start on the crosses?
GaryPendrysEyes
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Tbh mate Ive never heard of you, Im sure you and your other accounts will be back to normal in no timeI've just liked one of your posts GPE. I need to shower.
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skybluetony176
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If it's not in question why are people bringing up stuff not connected to it? I'll try again. I've been know to take part in an orange parade on more than one occasion. Does that mean I can't organise a CCFC protest? Some people do take offence to the Orange order after all.
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If you started re-tweeting all over the place on your work Tony account tweets about how Catholics were child molestors then yes, it would be hoped someone would have a word that you might like to either not re-tweet such stuff, or do it under another name before it all blew up...
I get the joke, but take it from me, the Orange Order are a nasty bunch (but only if you have an Irish Catholic background).
Esoterica
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Remembrance day? Sounds like the right time to make this The Last Post!
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No, I wasn't trying to be political.
It is just that it is going to end up getting silly!
I know Nick, no worries. Tony dangled the carrot and I bit (why are carrots orange?)
ccfcway
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Personally I don't struggle with the concept that they could be, i'm just embarrassed and ashamed that they support my football team
No place for it in todays society
skybluetony176
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Just to come back to your point about should I expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda.
Absolutely I do and I tell you why. They have a commonality and should stand shouldered to shoulder on the club. It should, as long as your willing, transcend anything else. Also commonality is the best way to break down barriers and racism is a barrier.
This also would be nothing new. I'll give you an example from Irish history. More catholic Irish men have died fighting two world wars with the British army than have died fighting republican causes. Especially true in the first world war and in a large number of cases they were republican fighters putting down arms against the British to pick up arms with the British to fight a common enemy. While I'm still on the soap box I'll tell you a personal story. When I go to Northern Ireland to stop with family I always stay with one particular cousin and her catholic husband and children. Partly because she's a great cook and looks after me like a mother but also me and her husband who's from a large republican town get on like a house on fire. If I look at the photos on the walls in amongst the wedding photos at a catholic church and pictures of their kids in school uniforms for the catholic schools that they go to you'll find photos of my cousin and other family members playing in a flute band and marching through the town.
It is what you want it to be. You can except that Steve is right on CCFC and take part in what he's organising or you can put a barrier up because of his unconnected views to fighting for the club. Either way on this occasion Steve isn't the one putting barriers up. It's up to you and others.
Quote: Tony ( UKIP Tony ) 'It is what you want it to be. You can except that Steve is right on CCFC and take part in what he's organising or you can put a barrier up because of his unconnected views to fighting for the club. Either way on this occasion Steve isn't the one putting barriers up. It's up to you and others.'
You don't get it do you? It is not whether or not Steve is right on CCFC. It is not that he is a City fan. It is not that he isn't putting barriers up. It's that he - judging by his tweets, retweets and who he follows - has an extremist point of view. He appears to be very political in his outlook.
City fans are protesting as a non-political group. If the 'leader' had, say, music tweets or football tweets on his Twitter account, nobody would give a toss.
But, he follows scum and retweets and tweets their political views and stories. People do give a toss about that. You may not, and as Grendel has pointed out, you had no problem voting for UKIP as a protest vote. UKIP being about as far right as you can get before you get into Pegida and Tommy Fraudster Robinson territory. The little bit extra doesn't seem to bother you too much. It bothers me though.
Once again, not only does his viewpoint upset some of the fanbase ( a lot I would think ), but it gives our opponents the opportunity of counter attacking based on the character of the groups' 'leader'.
You don't get it do you? It is not whether or not Steve is right on CCFC. It is not that he is a City fan. It is not that he isn't putting barriers up. It's that he - judging by his tweets, retweets and who he follows - has an extremist point of view. He appears to be very political in his outlook.
City fans are protesting as a non-political group. If the 'leader' had, say, music tweets or football tweets on his Twitter account, nobody would give a toss.
But, he follows scum and retweets and tweets their political views and stories. People do give a toss about that. You may not, and as Grendel has pointed out, you had no problem voting for UKIP as a protest vote. UKIP being about as far right as you can get before you get into Pegida and Tommy Fraudster Robinson territory. The little bit extra doesn't seem to bother you too much. It bothers me though.
Once again, not only does his viewpoint upset some of the fanbase ( a lot I would think ), but it gives our opponents the opportunity of counter attacking based on the character of the groups' 'leader'.
skybluetony176
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Don't quote Grendull like it some how makes you clever. It doesn't. You don't know why I've voted UKIP on one occasion and why would you, you've never asked me. For the record I've voted green, lib dem and conservative on more than one occasion but you're not labeling me green tony, lib dem tony or tory tony and why would you when you think attacking the man is smart.
You're right. City fans are protesting as a non political group. City fans including Steve. I say including Steve that's not true, he seems to be a special case. He's not allowed to be non political on this day apparently. My my, that almost sounds like discrimination. No wait, it is discrimination. He's being isolated as a special case because of views not related to CCFC. There's a lot of people on here throwing stones in glass houses while taking a moral high ground if you ask me.
His right wing views do bother me and for personal reasons that I'm not going to go on a public forum (pm me if you want, I'm happy to discuss it privately) it does upset me but I'm not going to blur the lines between his right wing views and the fight he's organising for CCFC. I believe in what he's doing for CCFC, as far as I or anyone else knows he isn't out organising muslim lynch mobs, burning mosques down. He ain't being clever on twitter, I don't argue that point but that doesn't make his views on CCFC wrong or anything he's organised connected to CCFC wrong. People are not right all the time you know.
Bruce the Boot
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Tony , its just Nicks posse rounding on you , dont bite
skybluetony176
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You tell me. You're his stalker.
skybluetony176
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Really? That's up there with all Muslims are rapists.
skybluetony176
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Hardly surprising. Given your opinion of the orange order you've missed it yourself. Seems to be a lot of it going around.
torchomatic
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Talking of the lovely Tommy Robinson, here's a little tweet from Steve and Tommy's reply. Steve is asking about the Pegida UK launch event in Birmingham last February:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-urged-unite-against-tommy-10752562
A reminder of who Pegida are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegida_UK
This will make a lot of uncomfortable. But not all of us.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ters-stage-anti-islam-silent-march-birmingham
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fernandopartridge
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Anybody know where I can buy a pair of jackboots for the march?
Otis
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I had never heard of Pegida before. Am fully aware of Tommy Robinson though.
Just how racist are they? Those two links don't give much away. Ban the burka, stop immigration, prevent Sharia law.
Nothing that extreme there I don't think. Do they have a manifesto?
Otis
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Say something funny Otis. This thread is depressing me
Haven't got anything for you, Ferret, apart from my wife just asking me what I was scouring the internet for and I said I was checking up on Pediga. She responded to that by asking what was wrong with my feet.
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Tell you what, this thread's played havoc with who twitter's suggesting I follow now.
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