covboy1987
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Sheffield Utd fans absolutely raving about him best signing for years - whole thread on him a particularly his performance on Saturday - fans of Bradford are saying much the same about vincelot -
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To be honest mate I think its quite clear what his point is!
Skybluefaz
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I'd totally forgotten about John Fleck. I don't really think we're missing him. Is it 5 motm for Bigi now?
pastythegreat
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Agreed Faz, I think Bigi is playing very well at the minute! As busy and runs around a lot like JOB but also plays well positionally and when on his game his range of passing g for me is as good as Fleck. By this time last season however fleck had already picked up something like 3 yellow cards so was always liable to miss games through suspension.
Think we do miss a bit of Vincelot grit and fight as Gadshev just doesn't cut it for me.
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Think we do miss a bit of Vincelot grit and fight as Gadshev just doesn't cut it for me.
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covcity4life
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vincelot must have put in a great defensive shift in a 3-3 draw!
Nick
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Ben Stevenson - Coventry City fans absolutely raving about him best academy graduate for years - whole thread on him a particularly his performance on Saturday and Tuesday
fernandopartridge
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I don't think we've missed Fleck at all tbh. Perhaps Vincelot at times even though I didn't really rate him.
covcity4life
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i agree. bigi and stevenson more than doing fleck job
vincelot was great for half a season then was terrible, whilst different players i am glad we have kyle reid in squad over him. i am assuming vinelot wages were used on him anyway
standupforcity
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I'll have Bigi and Stevenson over Fleck and Vincelot any day.... plus the addition of Reid and the imminent return of Rose and Stokes...all set for a good run I'd say!!
covboy1987
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my point is that if our aim is to get back to the championship then onto the premiership then your best players have got to stay -
Liquid Gold
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If fleck was going to achieve something with us he would have done so in the 4 years he was here.
fernandopartridge
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He was also playing well and near the top of the table this time last season.
Liquid Gold
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By the same token he was playing badly and bottling it during the second half of last season and this time 18 months ago he was 20 minutes away from league 2 relegation.
fernandopartridge
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Exactly, that's my point.
I've just had a browse of the Sheffield United forum, talk about hubris.
Liquid Gold
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Fair enough, went over my head. Sheffield united should be embarrassed that they are still at this level after all these years, none of the problems we've had and a bigger budget each year.
fernandopartridge
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I've just read the thread about Fleck, you'd think it was Paul Scholes they'd signed. Perhaps it's because they've often been the epitome of anti-football (Bassett, Warnock etc)
shy_tall_knight
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Fleck IMO looked a lot better than his actual performances were, for every champagne pass there was plenty of poor passes, hardly scored, couldn't tackle either, I still believed that Fleck could have done so much more for us and either he wasn't played in the right position or wasn't motivated enough, always would look better in a good team like he did when we had Clarke & wilson ripping up defences.
Warwickhunt
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read their thread come february and see if its as good about Fleckie then and if so the motivation of a better salary is working?
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Sure he was getting slated 6 games in by them!
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Spoke to a season ticket holder of SU and he said mediocre for the first 5 games but has been superb the last 5 which is typical for him, we've moved on, we have to focus on our now, these players are not coming back or would we want them to.
Gosford Green
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A midfield pairing I wish we had kept but we did'nt.
I remember my uncle wanting Christmas cancelled when we sold Dennis Mortimer to the Villa (!) selling players is one thing I have became used to.
The only slight change is we now sell players the first possible moment they have any value.
I remember my uncle wanting Christmas cancelled when we sold Dennis Mortimer to the Villa (!) selling players is one thing I have became used to.
The only slight change is we now sell players the first possible moment they have any value.
superskyblue
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I have said before that he is the type of player that relies a lot on players around him being on form. Given Sheff Utd's current form I am not surprised that he is getting rave reviews.
Ash
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Always found Fleck to be incredibly hit and miss, had the quality but often faded during games. As someone mentioned, if he was to achieve anything here then he would have done so over the last four years.
With Vincelot however, if I'm honest I'm still gutted we sold him. Definitely thought he would've played a big role for us this season!
With Vincelot however, if I'm honest I'm still gutted we sold him. Definitely thought he would've played a big role for us this season!
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Joy Division
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Fleck was a very good player for us, mostly let down by the dross he had to play alongside week in week out. Our team would be much stronger now with him.
Pipehitterz
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I don't think we've ' really ' missed fleck, he wanted to go so having him in this thread is nul and void.
Vincelot didn't really do great for us after Xmas, he never held down a position, of his own, now if we're comparing him now to our team, would he be in ahead of Willis at centre right? Like he is at Bradford?
I doubt it totally.
Ergo we aren't actually missing him.
The only comparison we should be talking about is old golden messi, I mean, Jim O'Brien.
Now some of our Fans made him out to be the Best midfielder we had, and some put him down as player of the season at Xmas.
Yet where do we find him ( and being completely ignored in any thread ) nowadays?
Starting ( and staying ) on the bench for league ones bottom team.
Anyone want to discuss that comparison, and what I see as the only fair comparison over the 'main men ' that were ' let go ' last season.
Vincelot didn't really do great for us after Xmas, he never held down a position, of his own, now if we're comparing him now to our team, would he be in ahead of Willis at centre right? Like he is at Bradford?
I doubt it totally.
Ergo we aren't actually missing him.
The only comparison we should be talking about is old golden messi, I mean, Jim O'Brien.
Now some of our Fans made him out to be the Best midfielder we had, and some put him down as player of the season at Xmas.
Yet where do we find him ( and being completely ignored in any thread ) nowadays?
Starting ( and staying ) on the bench for league ones bottom team.
Anyone want to discuss that comparison, and what I see as the only fair comparison over the 'main men ' that were ' let go ' last season.
Otis
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Missed the bloke who kept going missing?
Hmm........
I do think the better the team he's in though, the better he will play, if they can allow him the time and space to shine.
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Fleck a very disappointing footballer a lot of talent but hid in most games rarely passed it forward and a walking booking.