ccfcway
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I watched Emmerdale Farm once. My opinion was it was shocking. Why would I watch it every week to continue having that opinion ?
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I watched Emmerdale Farm once. My opinion was it was shocking. Why would I watch it every week to continue having that opinion ?
Otis
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One finger up at the fans?
oucho
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I never said i "knew everything" - I just stated my opinion which was laughable that the likes of the council deliberately tried to further their cause by having "plant" accounts on here. You have no evidence they did so so please stop insulting me.
Nick
Administrator
You were saying I was wrong that acl did... How do you know?
I'm not insulting you, it's just you seem to know everything about it?
oucho
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Stop accusing me of saying that i know everything about it - I just expressed my opinion that there's no way anyone would care sufficiently about what gets said on here that they'd go to the trouble of signing up and trying to use SBT to influence opinion. Even if an employee did or PNH as we know, that's not the same as the council/ACL/Higgs PR machine doing so as part of a deliberately strategy. I stated that there is no evidence they have done this. There is no evidence. Seems straightforward enough to me.
Sky Blue Pete
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For me the one stat above all is
17 goals in 20 games!
Tudgay was just awful today. Jones and Reid did well first half but no one gambled to get on the end of anything
The other thing that gobsmacks me is how we get 1-2 people in the opposition box and then seem to be outnumbered at the back.
Is it fitness? Is it laziness? Is it the formation?
It's very strange
When Geoff asked Venus about the formation he said it was ok? Huh?
We've known what's wrong for 20 games but done nothing about it?
Why is Kwame Thomas still with us?
Burge - ok
Kelly Evans I genuinely don't think I'd good enough for league 1 yet
Page - ok but do we need a loan player at left back?
Turnbull - ok
Willis - performances going back wards this season but ok at this level
Bigi - such energy but he should be the stand out player at this level and he's not
Stevenson - the one bright spark of the season. Would be no surprise to see him leave in January.
Rose - such a shame he's injured as he's too good for this level
Reid - Did really well especially first half. Absolutely no chance of hitting Tudgay v 4 defenders
Jones - Same but second half totally out of the game
Tudgay - just shocking
Mcbean - won some headers but we didn't know how to play with him
Lameiras - too lightweight he won't sign for a club at this level next season
Maycock - young and not ready for the first team. Looks like he'll be great
All in all should have won today but it's gonna be a real struggle scoring less than 1 goal a match all season
Pusb
17 goals in 20 games!
Tudgay was just awful today. Jones and Reid did well first half but no one gambled to get on the end of anything
The other thing that gobsmacks me is how we get 1-2 people in the opposition box and then seem to be outnumbered at the back.
Is it fitness? Is it laziness? Is it the formation?
It's very strange
When Geoff asked Venus about the formation he said it was ok? Huh?
We've known what's wrong for 20 games but done nothing about it?
Why is Kwame Thomas still with us?
Burge - ok
Kelly Evans I genuinely don't think I'd good enough for league 1 yet
Page - ok but do we need a loan player at left back?
Turnbull - ok
Willis - performances going back wards this season but ok at this level
Bigi - such energy but he should be the stand out player at this level and he's not
Stevenson - the one bright spark of the season. Would be no surprise to see him leave in January.
Rose - such a shame he's injured as he's too good for this level
Reid - Did really well especially first half. Absolutely no chance of hitting Tudgay v 4 defenders
Jones - Same but second half totally out of the game
Tudgay - just shocking
Mcbean - won some headers but we didn't know how to play with him
Lameiras - too lightweight he won't sign for a club at this level next season
Maycock - young and not ready for the first team. Looks like he'll be great
All in all should have won today but it's gonna be a real struggle scoring less than 1 goal a match all season
Pusb
Skybluenutterman
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I think we are doomed. I almost fell asleep today. Unfortunately there are worse teams in this division than us but only 2 or 3 which will leave us too low and where we are now. We made them look good today as we do most teams. Nowhere near sufficient quality if any 
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Nick
Administrator
How do you know what evidence there is and isn't?
That's my point, you seem very sure about it all, you keep saying it over and over.
You also said about people might think you were a plant, when you weren't even on here then.
oucho
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On the basis that if there was evidence you'd have told us all about it. Hardly unreasonable.
Nick
Administrator
So you don't actually know then? Yet you keep saying it's wrong over and over.
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oucho
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I'm asserting my opinion based on a reasonable interpretation of the known facts. If some evidence comes to light to alter that, I will review my opinion accordingly. Until then, you have to either put up or shut up.
Nick
Administrator
What known facts are they then?
You seem to be the expert about it all, so what facts and evidence is there to tell me they haven't? You have said in no uncertain terms there is no evidence.
I'd be a bit silly to say it when we all know about a family of lawyers who like to make threats to people on here wouldn't I? Or is there no proof about that either?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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My personal opinion is we will stay up this year, but does it really matter?
This year, next year or the following year after that, if something doesn't change in the club it's not a matter of if we get relegated it will be what season will we be relegated.
This year, next year or the following year after that, if something doesn't change in the club it's not a matter of if we get relegated it will be what season will we be relegated.
oucho
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I have no idea what you're talking about regarding a family of lawyers. I don't know anything about that.
You're being like a dog with a bone - if I'm wrong, say so. If not, shut up. Frankly I can see why people moan at you being pro-SISU. You're one of those who like to stir people up and try to undermine any attempts to criticise the club and its' owners. Perhaps you don't realise you do it, but it's uncanny how you appear to leap to the club's defence and have a go at anyone who's having a go at them. I suggest you make a conscious effort to re-balance your opinions against SISU and see what sort of reaction it gets you - a positive one I'd have thought.
I also suggest you spend less time defending the club and SISU and more time moderating this forum.
Grendel
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It has nothing to do with FP and if he agreed with him. He's a moron who just likes to wum.
Stick to wall papering Tony - it's clearly more interesting and relevant than ccfc is to you.
Nick
Administrator
Oh dear, maybe you should have a read back then. After all, you are the one saying how it's wrong as if it's a fact?
When things get reported they get moderated and dealt with.
Ever thought I don't really say things to please other people or get back pats? Might come as a bit of a shock.
I have said you are wrong a fair few times yet you keep telling me I'm wrong.
You were straight on the match thread to tell everybody how you didn't go because you had a life, yet straight on about the politics.
Typical "sisu lover" aimed response when you are wrong though, quick let's try and rally the troops. Standard. Bob and Tony will be along soon, they can throw words like conspiracy in but can't tell you anything about football.
oucho
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Nick
Administrator
Have you seen how people act when it's moderated? I merge two threads together and it's because I'm hiding things for sisu...
No, you keep saying how others are wrong about stuff where you have no actual facts and don't seem to know anything about it.
My opinion is very in line with reality, have a look through the match thread about comments and then later on in the ratings thread to see how they match up. I'm not really fussed on a reaction good or bad to be honest, I have my views as do others. I'm not going to target them for people and start shouting sisu because our manager signed 6 strikers and 1 defender for example.
No, you keep saying how others are wrong about stuff where you have no actual facts and don't seem to know anything about it.
My opinion is very in line with reality, have a look through the match thread about comments and then later on in the ratings thread to see how they match up. I'm not really fussed on a reaction good or bad to be honest, I have my views as do others. I'm not going to target them for people and start shouting sisu because our manager signed 6 strikers and 1 defender for example.
oucho
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No but you're the first to be cynical or disdainful about the trust, CT, Wasps, Gilbert etc etc when any of them take issue with the club.
Regarding facts, the way it works is that if you want to prove a positive, as you do, then the burden of proof lies wuth you. You haven't offered any. On that basis i'm within my rights to make a statement for which there is no contradictory evidence. Just suck it up.
Nick
Administrator
No, you have said it was wrong and there is no evidence. You have said nobody like that would use places like this.
You haven't produced anything at all to back it up? You were the one throwing it about as a fact but don't seem to actually know?
Gazolba
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Every relegated team has said that.
oucho
Well-Known Member
Have you stopped to think about how I could actually prove a negative? Can I prove that you've never been to a Tesco? No.
I'm not sure why you're so hung up on this - probably because you're trying to convince youself, and anyone else, that ACL etc acted in some kind of underhand way in their dealings with CCFC. Again, there is no evidence of this.
Nick
Administrator
Of course you can't prove it, that's why you wouldn't make a statement saying I'd never been when you didn't know.
I don't need to convince myself that people from acl came on here. You seem to be trying very hard to convince they didn't though?
oucho
Well-Known Member
Yes, because you've offered no evidence to show they did and until you do I will stick with my current opinion.
Wheelfass
Well-Known Member
yep.
Nick
Administrator
You wouldn't make a statement when you didn't actually know though? Saying how it's wrong and it hasn't happened.
And again, I wouldn't say it if I couldn't back it up. Have a research about who has had threats on here.
ccfcway
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na, we were dropping like a stone with Thorn and it was inevitable
oucho
Well-Known Member
Care to share with everyone else?
Personally I am 100% happy to be corrected if I am proven wrong on this one which means that I am also happy to re-state my original view. That won't be changing unless you convince me otherwise. In a court of law, you get found not guilty of doing something if there is a lack of evidence available (in fact it's not even likely to get to court in that scenario). Maybe I've worked in contracts for too long but that's my attitude to everything.
Nick
Administrator
Oh in a court of law I could, not sure i can post people's personal details though, as that may well get me into a court of law myself.
You have said repeatedly there's no evidence, I wouldn't say it if I didn't have any, especially after having thinly veiled threats myself about lawyers.
singers_pore
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Nick, your positing history is littered with derogatory statements about Gilbert, the CT, Wasps, CCC, Higgs etc., without providing any evidence whatsoever. That's fine. You can express whatever opinions you like. But it's rather stupid for you to then assert that other people have to put up evidence to prove that your statements are factually wrong.
Sorry, but Oucho has got you banged to rights on this one.
oucho
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If there is evidence then you should show it - i will not take your word for it. Otherwise I will consider that it doesn't exist. Otherwise you're expecting us to trust you and you're far too anti-ACL for me to do that. I will continue to repeat that there's no evidence until you prove me wrong (and even then I may well discredit what you post). Until then, don't bother - you're going round in circles.
Nick
Administrator
It wasn't his opinion, he categorically said there was no evidence and it didn't happen.
If I said something as fact I'd expect to be asked to back it up.
Nick
Administrator
So you want me to post up users personal information, locations and ip addresses and ip registrations? If you work in contracts I'm pretty sure you know I can't.
If you don't believe me then it's up to you, but don't say it's wrong and didn't happen like it's fact and that there isn't any evidence.
I have no doubts there are and have been others from other parties, but no solid proof.
You weren't even a member on here when it mostly happened?
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Terry Gibson's perm
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I think we will be relegated, we won't score enough to stop up and have a manager who can't see that things are wrong. Any movements in January are likely to be reliant on movements out first.