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Nick

Administrator
Whether I or others want them to stay or go is irrelevant in terms of liquidation.

If they choose to liquidate that would be disastrous.

I suspect though, they whether I like the twats or not, they would do what suits them, regardless of how feel about our club.
They would be gone though if they liquidated.

Give some more information in the question, there are no doubt more scenarios where it's better if they go then not but then it's not going to be at any cost. (Which could end up being worse)

I notice you didn't give a yes or no ;)
 

clint van damme

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I can't remember what this thread is about ;) but at least now it's moved beyond Nick, at least I feel I can interject.

I don't understand what's wrong with saying yes, I'd like SISU OUT really.

Yes I agree, your example is not a fabulous future. Nor, for that matter, would I see an Elliott led group in charge, and Haskell was not an appropriate alternative. Voicing my viws on the last two had people confuse that with not being SISU OUT but, also... not agreeing that yes, SISU OUT would be good when asked a simple question leads to doubt even if unjustified... and that's needless doubt.

We can get back to the ramblings about what should replace a SISU-led club but, tbh, SISU OUT is surely such an obvious thing that needs to be done then yes, it doesn't need to be stated most times but also yes, why not just agree it's a good option if it stops doubt?

I think its more about trying to paint Nick as some fervent sisu lover just because he tries to look at the bigger picture.

We'll give you a boolean choice and if you dont give us the answer we want we'll start the witch hunt, its pathetic.

For what its worth, I think it would take something pretty disastrous to be worse than sisu post sisu.

But if supporting city has taught me one think, it can always get worse.
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
Linnell grates on me with an apparent liking of his own voice. He takes an extra sentence to get to the point and hogs the microphone as a consequence. But his voice sounds like he has a bunch of boiled sweets in his mouth while someone is gently squeezing his balls as he speaks. Added to this, what he comes out with generally is gibberish. In the old days the BBC would have said he had no 'radio voice'.
 

6 Generations

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It's almost like you aren't listening to anything you get in reply.

What are the consequences of them going tomorrow?

You do realise that asking the same thing over and over doesn't change anything.

Would you be happy with there being no ccfc again if sisu go tomorrow?



Just give a straight answer.

The majority , you know the ill educated, mob rule Brexit 'Leave', Sun reading, minions Nick, would like our owners relieved of the Golden Share.

Do you think that they should be relieved of the Golden Share?

Or do you think that they are worthy custodians of that Golden Share?

What do you think?
 
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I think its more about trying to paint Nick as some fervent sisu lover just because he tries to look at the bigger picture.

We'll give you a boolean choice and if you dont give us the answer we want we'll start the witch hunt, its pathetic.

For what its worth, I think it would take something pretty disastrous to be worse than sisu post sisu.

But if supporting city has taught me one think, it can always get worse.

But then answer the question, however fatuous, and then move on by pointing out how disastrous an Elliott led regime would be.

There's agreement here, but the phrasing's leading to a pointless argument.
 

Nick

Administrator
Just give a straight answer.

The majority , you know the ill educated, mob rule Brexit 'Leave', Sun reading, minions Nick, would like our owners relieved of the Golden Share.

Do you think that they should be relieved of the Golden Share?

Or do you think that they are worthy custodians of that Golden Share?

What do you think?

Where was your straight answer about liquidation?

You still haven't given me a scenario to answer about.

You can sit and write leading questions all night if you want? It's embarrassing really.

Maybe you should listen back to the phone in? Then you can hear for yourself what has got you all worked up and Nigel being rational on there.
 

Nick

Administrator
But then answer the question, however fatuous, and then move on by pointing out how disastrous an Elliott led regime would be.

There's agreement here, but the phrasing's leading to a pointless argument.
Exactly. It needs to really say a scenario.

There are more that would be better without them, then some which would be worse.

We have seen what happens when.blindly shouting things and people seem to be acting like it's at any cost.
 

6 Generations

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Not everybody is a shouty person Nick.

You twist everything without actually nailing any colours to the mast.

The most any member of this forum can glean is that your non-committal view leans very much towards our wonderful owners.

I have wasted the last 2 hours asking questions that every sane, logical Coventry City fan already knew the answer to.

So chaps,

Nothing new to see here.

Good night
 

Nick

Administrator
Not everybody is a shouty person Nick.

You twist everything without actually nailing any colours to the mast.

The most any member of this forum can glean is that your non-committal view leans very much towards our wonderful owners.

I have wasted the last 2 hours asking questions that every sane, logical Coventry City fan already knew the answer to.

So chaps,

Nothing new to see here.

Good night

I'm not entirely sure what you are reading? I've said that there are more scenarios where we are better off if they go than worse. How is that leaning towards them?

All because I said about Nigel on the phone in, as his call was very sane and logical. I guess it was as he said what you wanted to hear though.

I'm not going to say they should go at any cost, as that isn't logical is it.

You still didn't answer about whether you would be happy about sisu going if it meant liquidaton?

Like I said hours ago, trying to give it the whole sisu lover stuff because I mentioned nigel on the radio and how if you say anything different you must be happy with them.
 

6 Generations

Well-Known Member
I have already said that I didn't hear the phone in.
You are very selective in what you choose to hear ir read.
I will, however listen to the podcast? (Im guessing).

At what point should I stop it to listen to your views?
 

Nick

Administrator
I have already said that I didn't hear the phone in.
You are very selective in what you choose to hear ir read.
I will, however listen to the podcast? (Im guessing).

At what point should I stop it to listen to your views?

You mean like where you haven't answered about who it is waiting to take over, whether you would be happy about sisu going if it meant liquidation or you haven't read where I've said there are more scenarios where it's better if they go than bad that i can think of at the minute?

You can't get any more selective than that really.
 

6 Generations

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Stockholm syndrome !

Over the last 9 years, our current owners, who according to the EFL have passed the fit and proper persons test, despite absolute anonymity, have divided our club, THAT's OUR CLUB, in to many different and utterly confusing parts.

We have no divine right to competing in an league.

I do, however believe that the least that we should expect as fans, is that those that control the Golden Share, are obliged to at least attempt to improve us as a team / business .

That we should have ambition and hope, because without these, after half a century they can fuck off or I will.

Sky Blues Talk is a great site and I will continue to check in.

Thanks for the healthy debate Nick
 

Nick

Administrator
Stockholm syndrome !

Over the last 9 years, our current owners, who according to the EFL have passed the fit and proper persons test, despite absolute anonymity, have divided our club, THAT's OUR CLUB, in to many different and utterly confusing parts.

We have no divine right to competing in an league.

I do, however believe that the least that we should expect as fans, is that those that control the Golden Share, are obliged to at least attempt to improve us as a team / business .

That we should have ambition and hope, because without these, after half a century they can fuck off or I will.

Sky Blues Talk is a great site and I will continue to check in.

Thanks for the healthy debate Nick

And if the debate fails, just go on a random rant :)

Are you going to say why it's Stockholm Syndrome because I wouldn't want the club to go out of existence for example as a scenario where I wouldn't say go?

You keep demanding all of this answers to your leading questions that don't really make sense but won't answer others yourself.
 

6 Generations

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And if the debate fails, just go on a random rant :)

Are you going to say why it's Stockholm Syndrome because I wouldn't want the club to go out of existence for example as a scenario where I wouldn't say go?

You keep demanding all of this answers to your leading questions that don't really make sense but won't answer others yourself.

Ok let's be fair.

And it really has been a good chat.

Please answer as to whether our current owners are good for us or not?

My view is that they are not.

Further to that, I honestly believe that there are people waiting silently in the wings.

Their silence is based upon the avoidance of confrontation, leading to further time consuming litigation.

Our whole CCfc being or beings ( about 8 different companies)seems to have been entwined thus, for years.

Hence the silence.

The day the go should ever be recorded as an extra holiday in Coventry.
 

Otis

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I think there are two different questions and answers here.

If you ask 'Do you WANT Sisu to go' you might well get a completely different answer to 'SHOULD Sisu go.'

I think we pretty much all want Sisu to go. But when you ask 'SHOULD they go' people then start to look at who they would be replaced with and what that alternative would be.

It's like asking me 'SHOULD I divorce my wife' or 'Do I WANT to divorce my wife.'

Two different answers. When you start talking 'should' you then look at the implications of that divorce and what it would mean in reality, whereas 'want' is just a desire for it to happen.
 

Otis

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Errm .....but in saying that, can I just add that I love my wife just as passionately and with as much vigour as I did last year and the year before that and the year before that.
 

ajsccfc

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I can't tell if the thread is still about Linnell or not, but I noticed yesterday in particular he used his crafty code. when talking about people protesting or slagging someone off he'll make a point of saying how they're entitled to their opinion, which is his subtle way of calling the callers clueless morons.

Of course, he's entitled to his opinion.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
I can't tell if the thread is still about Linnell or not, but I noticed yesterday in particular he used his crafty code. when talking about people protesting or slagging someone off he'll make a point of saying how they're entitled to their opinion, which is his subtle way of calling the callers clueless morons.

Of course, he's entitled to his opinion.
Yep, picked up on that too. It's always thinly veiled put downs.

He might as well just say 'You've entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong.' That IS pretty much what he is trying to imply.

He's very patronising and pompous.
 

Garryb80

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He is an utter embarrassment. Can not stand differing opinions and reads out tweets only that back up his point of view. Evidence of his cluelessness is he stuck up for Tudgay. Enough said.
 

Warwickhunt

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Errm .....but in saying that, can I just add that I love my wife just as passionately and with as much vigour as I did last year and the year before that and the year before that.
Good save Otis!;):p
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Just to clarify something the Golden Share is owned by Otium Entertainment Group t/a CCFC. Not by SISU Capital Limited. Indeed SISU Capital Limited does not as far as can be seen own any part of Otium or SBS&L ......... they are agents for the investors in SBS&L and ARVO

Take the share away from Otium and CCFC ceases to be an EFL club and that share is then offered to some other entity.............. not really what we want surely? Not an action the EFL is likely to take either unless they could prove without an doubt, fraud or some other major breach of EFL rules & regulations. Being completely useless at running a football club is not a breach of said regulations

As for Linnell - yes he likes his own voice and opinion but when I have heard from him on the radio recently he has seemed as exasperated as the rest of us about matters on and off the field at CCFC
 

Paxman II

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Just to clarify something the Golden Share is owned by Otium Entertainment Group t/a CCFC. Not by SISU Capital Limited. Indeed SISU Capital Limited does not as far as can be seen own any part of Otium or SBS&L ......... they are agents for the investors in SBS&L and ARVO

Take the share away from Otium and CCFC ceases to be an EFL club and that share is then offered to some other entity.............. not really what we want surely? Not an action the EFL is likely to take either unless they could prove without an doubt, fraud or some other major breach of EFL rules & regulations. Being completely useless at running a football club is not a breach of said regulations

As for Linnell - yes he likes his own voice and opinion but when I have heard from him on the radio recently he has seemed as exasperated as the rest of us about matters on and off the field at CCFC

So it should be "Otium out" not "Sisu out" and to think all those placards and banners need changing too! So Nigel you need to learn a new word for the phone in!
 

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