Season ticket blackout (25 Viewers)

[letsallsingtogether]

Ha, true. but it will be even worse next season . And that's the way youbseem to want the club to go.

No City fan wants it to go that way, we just want something to shout about one way to fill the Ricoh good team good results push for promotion.

So for the club to stop this drop in attendances they need to invest some of there own money as beng self sufficent isn't working.
I am moaning now that I won't renew, never had one last year but only missed 1 game.

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

never had one last year but only missed 1 game.

So you love SISU so much, you didn't bother with the savings of a season ticket

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Wasn't NOPM actually instigated by SISU ?:arghh:

 

[wingy]

So you love SISU so much, you didn't bother with the savings of a season ticket

Clearly by missing the one game he negated the overall gain to SISU.
He's one clever strategist that LAST.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Clearly by missing the one game he negated the overall gain to SISU.
He's one clever strategist that LAST.

Sadly I was on holiday always seem to miss the first home game.

TBF did get a few free last season so did actually save.

 

[Johnnythespider]

For a minute I thought you were running a blackout with a first prize of a season ticket

 

[Otis]

For a minute I thought you were running a blackout with a first prize of a season ticket

And second prize of 5 season tickets and third prize of 20 season tickets.

 

[wingy]

For a minute I thought you were running a blackout with a first prize of a season ticket

I've never won anything when I've selected COVENTRY on one of those things.
Conspiracy??

 

[wingy]

I've never won anything when I've selected COVENTRY on one of those things.
Conspiracy??

On a sidenote the BUFFS club where we park and have pint informed us that one of the old gents who sold programmes had passed away.
Don't know if anyone on here knew him but
RIP old boy.

 

[oucho]

Yeah still no facts or logical reasoning to back it up surprisingly.

The fact is that you are downplaying / questioning the success of what appears to be a good idea to put pressure on SISU and raise awareness. The logical reasoning is that, on the basis this fits with your observed previous patterns of behaviour (also observed as fact), you have some kind of pro-SISU agenda.

Suck on that.

Don't worry though, I'm sure that the likes of Charlton have got plenty of Quisling-type fans just like you busy moaning about the fans trying to make a difference, so you're not on your own.

 

[Nick]

The fact is that you are downplaying / questioning the success of what appears to be a good idea to put pressure on SISU and raise awareness. The logical reasoning is that, on the basis this fits with your observed previous patterns of behaviour (also observed as fact), you have some kind of pro-SISU agenda.

Suck on that.

Don't worry though, I'm sure that the likes of Charlton have got plenty of Quisling-type fans just like you busy moaning about the fans trying to make a difference, so you're not on your own.

Why is it a good idea? How will it work?

Quisling? Get a grip.

Which was your other account(s) before this?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I'm sure that the likes of Charlton have got plenty of Quisling-type fans just like you

Bit harsh to call OSB a Quisling.

Anyway, your attitude on this thread is proving exactly why it's a shit idea.

 

[ccfctommy]

As it stands I wont be getting a ST next season.

Not because of NOPM or starve em out...

But because I really dont enjoy it anymore. The whole matchday experience at the Ricoh is terrible. The football is crap and we look contenders to go down. And thats without all the off field shit.

Ill pick and choose my games maybe, but truth be told, I simply cannot be arsed with CCFC anymore.

 

[oucho]

Why is it a good idea? How will it work?

Quisling? Get a grip.

Which was your other account(s) before this?

I already explained that I used to read SBT as a non-signed up member. Keep up.

You're being called names because of your negative attitude. I didn't say that the idea would work but it's good in that it'll no doubt raise more anti-SISU publicity, right? Surely that's a good thing??

I just can't understand your negativity about any sentiment, idea, protest or comment that criticises the club. From the way you contribute to this forum, you give off the impression of someone who really is signed up to defending the owners and shutting down / downplaying anything that tries to put pressure on them. For the like of me I do not understand why. What's the matter with you?

 

[oucho]

Bit harsh to call OSB a Quisling.

Anyway, your attitude on this thread is proving exactly why it's a shit idea.

i'm calling Nick out specifically not just for questioning this idea but for his general attitude which seems to be to naysay anyone who has a go at the owners or joins a protest.
My only attitude on here is to support the idea - I do not call anyone renewing next season a Quisling, far from it - it's the constant sceptisism against anti-SISu posters that annoys me.

 

[Nick]

Bit harsh to call OSB a Quisling.

Anyway, your attitude on this thread is proving exactly why it's a shit idea.

The same as yesterday everybody said it was bad when Tudgay got boo'd and I said it won't help the player coming on and it gave him a hard on about me criticising the fans.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

My only attitude on here is to support the idea

Then you're doing a fabulous impression of showing why it won't work. How will this show unity and common front against SISU? You can see the bickering between fans such a campaign will lead to.

People voting with their feet because the product is poor is one thing but to claim (as will happen) that its part of a campaign to force insulated, arms length uncaring owners out is for me a nonsens.

Now, does expressing that view make someone a quisling too?

 

[oucho]

The same as yesterday everybody said it was bad when Tudgay got boo'd and I said it won't help the player coming on and it gave him a hard on about me criticising the fans.

"everyone" being 2 or 3 other posters as I recall.

You're meant to be the adult in the room. You're a respected (cough cough) poster on here and then you come out with horse manure like that. No wonder people moan at you.

 

[oucho]

Then you're doing a fabulous impression of showing why it won't work. How will this show unity and common front against SISU? You can see the bickering between fans such a campaign will lead to.

People voting with their feet because the product is poor is one thing but to claim (as will happen) that its part of a campaign to force insulated, arms length uncaring owners out is for me a nonsens.

Now, does expressing that view make someone a quisling too?

No not at all. I would never criticise a fan for watching a home game or buying an ST. Mates of mine went to Sixfields, I didn't, and I just respected their choice.

As I already mentioned, Nick's long term record of standing up for the owners and undermining of their opponents is the real reason for my description of him.

 

[Nick]

I already explained that I used to read SBT as a non-signed up member. Keep up.

You're being called names because of your negative attitude. I didn't say that the idea would work but it's good in that it'll no doubt raise more anti-SISU publicity, right? Surely that's a good thing??

I just can't understand your negativity about any sentiment, idea, protest or comment that criticises the club. From the way you contribute to this forum, you give off the impression of someone who really is signed up to defending the owners and shutting down / downplaying anything that tries to put pressure on them. For the like of me I do not understand why. What's the matter with you?

Ah, interesting how you think people on here would have thought you were a plant from you just reading the site. I didn't get the mind reading plugin for the software I am afraid.

The negativity is because it won't work and will just cause more division between fans. I am often more than constructive with why I don't think things will work.

Still, while people just back pat and fish for likes about how anti sisu they can be then nothing will be achieved would it. People will just be happy they got their names in the paper and onto the next one.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

No not at all. I would never criticise a fan for watching a home game or buying an ST. Mates of mine went to Sixfields, I didn't, and I just respected their choice.

How about claiming that it's a nonsense to suggest it's part of a campaign to force insulated, arms length uncaring owners out?

 

[Nick]

I've never won anything when I've selected COVENTRY on one of those things.
Conspiracy??

You should really hold it up to a decent light.

 

[Nick]

"everyone" being 2 or 3 other posters as I recall.

You're meant to be the adult in the room. You're a respected (cough cough) poster on here and then you come out with horse manure like that. No wonder people moan at you.

Think there was a few more, I said it wouldn't have helped the player coming on to hear that.

I'm not meant to be anything other than a city fan with my own opinion.

 

[oucho]

How about claiming that it's a nonsense to suggest it's part of a campaign to force insulated, arms length uncaring owners out?

Not sure I follow you - why isn't this part of he anti-SISU campaign? That appears to be the sole point, unless I missed something (which is possible as I didn't read every post in thread).

Sixfields is an interesting case - for all the bile on here and GMK, probably 50% of my mates chose to go and the rest didn't. There was no bad feeling or awkwardness about it, not even any banter or discussion about why - it was just accepted. That's my attitude - if you choose to renew, good luck to you.

I'm just looking for some positivity about ideas to get SISU out. If you don't agree with this one, please just suggest another idea.

 

[oucho]

Ah, interesting how you think people on here would have thought you were a plant from you just reading the site. I didn't get the mind reading plugin for the software I am afraid.

The negativity is because it won't work and will just cause more division between fans. I am often more than constructive with why I don't think things will work.

Still, while people just back pat and fish for likes about how anti sisu they can be then nothing will be achieved would it. People will just be happy they got their names in the paper and onto the next one.

Fair enough if that's you view, but in that case please do us a afavour and explain to us some ideas that you think will help get SISU out. You don't agree wit hthe non-renewal campaign and that's fine, I respect anyone who renews.

But in the same vein as the "what did YOU do in the war" posters, please do put your own ideas forward. Otherwise people are going to think you're a defeatist who just accepts the current situation as it is and who for some reason is taking the side of our owners.

 

[Johnnythespider]

You should really hold it up to a decent light.

I once won a weekly blackout at work 3 weeks on the bounce, the third week I held it up to the light as a joke but when I won people really believed I could see through it

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not sure I follow you

I'm wondering when criticism of an idea is acceptable, and who is allowed to criticise an idea.

Do you have a set list of posters off whom criticism is acceptable?

How about set words that are allowed, while others aren't?

If I were to throw in a few cheap and simple Hitler analogies, would that help my rep... for example?

If somebody wears a flashing bow tie while typing their message, does this make it more or less likely their opinion is valid?

That kind of thing...

Just wondering when pointing out an idea is bloody stupid is actually like... alright, really.

 

[Nick]

Fair enough if that's you view, but in that case please do us a afavour and explain to us some ideas that you think will help get SISU out. You don't agree wit hthe non-renewal campaign and that's fine, I respect anyone who renews.

But in the same vein as the "what did YOU do in the war" posters, please do put your own ideas forward. Otherwise people are going to think you're a defeatist who just accepts the current situation as it is and who for some reason is taking the side of our owners.

There have been plenty of ideas, mainly the best ideas for "action" has to be unite the fans as much as possible before doing anything at all. I have spent hours writing emails and posts with some ideas on ways to potentially do that. Some probably wouldn't work, some were half decent.

People seem to be too focused on getting in the paper, the main aim should be to get fans more together. There is a good example of it in here where people think that fan unity is agreeing with them, rather than finding the middle ground and compromise if needed.

 

[oucho]

There have been plenty of ideas, mainly the best ideas for "action" has to be unite the fans as much as possible before doing anything at all. I have spent hours writing emails and posts with some ideas on ways to potentially do that. Some probably wouldn't work, some were half decent.

People seem to be too focused on getting in the paper, the main aim should be to get fans more together. There is a good example of it in here where people think that fan unity is agreeing with them, rather than finding the middle ground and compromise if needed.

Ok what are some examples of such ideas to unite the fans?

Do you not think that all fans cannot unite behind the anti-SISU FTJHW campaign? If not, why not?

I'm not sure who you mean in your references to the newspapers but I can tell you now that doesn't apply to me or anyone else I know.

 

[Nick]

Ok what are some examples of such ideas to unite the fans?

Do you not think that all fans cannot unite behind the anti-SISU FTJHW campaign? If not, why not?

I'm not sure who you mean in your references to the newspapers but I can tell you now that doesn't apply to me or anyone else I know.

Fans won't unite when it involves them having to make any sort of decision about whether to watch their team or not.

Have a look through all of the hundreds of others threads about ideas to at least get fans together.

People are far too focused on media attention, they don't think whether it is going to be good or bad media attention.

 

[ccfcway]

Chances are numbers will be down anyway next year after the performances so far this season, unless things radically change..

Exactly.

This season - Average home league attendance 9,162
Last season - Average home league attendance 12,570

Its dropping like a stone.

A campaign boycott isn't needed, the owners are doing it themselves

 

[oucho]

Fans won't unite when it involves them having to make any sort of decision about whether to watch their team or not.

Have a look through all of the hundreds of others threads about ideas to at least get fans together.

People are far too focused on media attention, they don't think whether it is going to be good or bad media attention.

I thought the petition was a good idea - although you signed you also moaned about it and pooh-poohed it.

The pigs, the march, the funeral, all good ideas - how keen on them were you?

If you're one of those who think we'll unite by filling the Ricoh, you need to re-think. Also please understanding that being a CCFC fan doesn't oblige you to support the club, just the team on the pitch.

We can't just sit tight, cheer the team, keep quiet on SISU and hope for the best. I'm not a trust member and I don't know any who are but it seems clear that they speak for the the majority of fans, members or not (including me). There's no silent majority who distrust the Trust. Similarly, CET should be commended for joining the fight (somewhat belatedly) but IIRC you were a bit cynical about their motives too. Both organisations are really trying to do 2 things;
1 - ensure embarrassing publicity for SISU that will encourage them to get rid of the club to avoid further bad press affecting their business; and
2 - make it clear to them that the relationship between the club and the fanbase is beyond repair while SISU are in charge and that there's nothing they can do to salvage matters, against prompting them to work on divesting the club.

If you personally have any good ideas to get them out then I am all ears - please don't refer me to others' ideas...what do you think we can do?

 

[Rory83]

It's a heartbreaking demise of a once proud and defiant football club. My heart says get rid of SISU and the club will rise like the city itself did after its decimation, but my head says the damage is terminal and it's just a matter of time.

Why are SISU so stubborn, why are they looking to flog off any assets the club has? Why will they not invest enough to get us out of this God awful division into a position where gates increase and we might, just might start to make a bit of money? Why do they treat both the fans and the history of the club with total disdain? Making enemies seems to be their speciality. I hate them and I hate the game, for what it has become and the casualties that were traditional clubs at the heart of their communities being flung on the scrapheap.

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[oucho]

I think we have to be realistic - getting rid of SISU will not in practice rid us of our problems. We were in dire straits before they arrived and a simple change of ownership will do nothing immediately to change our circumstances.

But.

There's no question that with an announcement on new ownership, with a team of 4-5 backers and a proper board made up of enthusiastic people, with a some fulltime directors and a clear, publicly announced and credible sounding action plan will deliver a sea-change in attitudes amongst the fans. This will likely also be the case within the club; my suspicion is that there there is a malaise within the club whereby nobody, from the catering staff at Ryton through to the players (whose confidence must be shot through now), manager and directors, where everyone being negative rubs off on everyone else, and the defeatist attitude is passed on and inherited throughout the faces that come and go through the CCFC resolving door.

New ownership would offer a natural break to that on the basis of a real fresh start, especially if baed by investment, a sensible deal to the stay at the Ricoh, a re-structuring of the business to make us more competitive and sustainable, and above all else passion and commitment from the very top. Tim Fisher isn't the evil clown he's made out to be, but his lack of enthusiasm and the fact that he essentially has a day job doing other stuff speaks absolute volumes - and Joy hasn't appointed any other full time execs to run us either. It feels to SISU like we're an annoyance and a pain, but new owners with a real passion for the team would inspire the fans and players.

I'm not calling for fan ownership as I do not consider it workable and nor am I able to name who these mystical people are because I don't know if they are, but we're in agony as a fanbase at the moment and things like the march yesterday do a great job of articulating our feelings; if that hastens the departure of the current board and makes the scenario I mention above more likely, then they have my support.

 

[ccfcway]

It's a heartbreaking demise of a once proud and defiant football club. My heart says get rid of SISU and the club will rise like the city itself did after its decimation, but my head says the damage is terminal and it's just a matter of time.

With these owners its going one way, with someone else, who knows ?