Brian Richardson or Tim Fisher ? (3 Viewers)

cloughie

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There is no doubt in my view if Richardson had not been forced out we'd either own the Ricoh or still be at Highfield road.

We are where we are due to the gutless spineless oaf mcginnity.
You obviously have mental health issues , and I am genuinely sorry about that but If you wish for help I can direct you to the correct services
 

Grendel

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If Richardson hadn't fucked our club up by leaving us heavily in debt and without owning our own ground we wouldn't have ended up with SISU and Fisher.

The actual debt to the co operative bank was not huge at all and an administration order would have made it all go away.

So the debt would have gone away.

We didn't own our own ground due to mcginnity not Richardson.
 

Grendel

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You obviously have mental health issues , and I am genuinely sorry about that but If you wish for help I can direct you to the correct services

You, as always, are bereft of facts.
 

torchomatic

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Richardson. Without him there would be no Fisher.
 

torchomatic

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Does anyone ever find themselves at the Ricoh stood in a bar queue and think is that bloke stood behind that Grendel c**t off SBT?

Close. i think it might be you.
 

cloughie

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You, as always, are bereft of facts.
Not bereft of facts I will leave that to your Walter Mittee world

Richardson chairman till 2002 ... Highfield Road sold 5 years prior to move to Ricoh . 1st game at Ricoh 2005

Who sold Highfield Road and to WHO? I will await your answer Walter
 

fernandopartridge

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Talk about rose-tinted specs. Despite all the money he spent, indebting the club irreparably, our highest finish was still only 11th (many of our peers spent less and did better). We were effectively relegated twice. We sold our home of 100 years without having a replacement.

The damage Richardson did was in medical terms 'life changing'. Fisher whilst being generally useless, and just a front man for SISU anyway, hasn't sold the club's home and in essence condemned it forever more. It remains to be seen whether SISU are really to blame for Wasps buying the Ricoh.
 

Grendel

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Not bereft of facts I will leave that to your Walter Mittee world

Richardson chairman till 2002 ... Highfield Road sold 5 years prior to move to Ricoh . 1st game at Ricoh 2005

Who sold Highfield Road and to WHO? I will await your answer Walter

Mcginnity sold the rights to remain there for, I believe, the princely sum of £1 million.
 

cloughie

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Mcginnity sold the rights to remain there for, I believe, the princely sum of £1 million.

so McGinnity sold the rights behind Richardsons back as Richardson was chairman and then Richardson was removed due to irregularities along with Hover with a confidentiality clause,. That confidentiality clause was demanded by Richardson has a result of a high court writ given to Richardson over irregularities but he counter claimed about unfair dismissal as managing director . He was the 2nd highest paid exec behind Martin \Edwards at Man utd Who were champions at the time and the club did not have funds to fight the case in high court unlike sisu
 
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Grendel

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Talk about rose-tinted specs. Despite all the money he spent, indebting the club irreparably, our highest finish was still only 11th (many of our peers spent less and did better). We were effectively relegated twice. We sold our home of 100 years without having a replacement.

The damage Richardson did was in medical terms 'life changing'. Fisher whilst being generally useless, and just a front man for SISU anyway, hasn't sold the club's home and in essence condemned it forever more. It remains to be seen whether SISU are really to blame for Wasps buying the Ricoh.

The main damage was not getting promoted back at the first attempt. Clubs who didn't all ended up floundering.

The debts at the club in terms of bank financing were not huge and the point is all debts could have been eradicated at a stroke with zero impact on the club. Richardson I believe was a strong character and would have put the club before the other creditor. Mcginnity was a hapless dope who decided to sell sell and sell to pay his puppet master. It was a catastrophic decision.

Richardson was a spiv and a mercenary but he was not a fool. Mcginnity hardly can claim any moral high ground when you look at the murky background of his company and also he was a pasty and a fool.
 

cloughie

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Mcginnity sold the rights to remain there for, I believe, the princely sum of £1 million.

Well you can believe what you want that appears to be how you make up your 'facts'
Ground was sold and the Princely sum was paid back in rent over 5 years, Can't imagine why anyone would have wanted to remove him

Richardson got it for free via his
The main damage was not getting promoted back at the first attempt. Clubs who didn't all ended up floundering.

The debts at the club in terms of bank financing were not huge and the point is all debts could have been eradicated at a stroke with zero impact on the club. Richardson I believe was a strong character and would have put the club before the other creditor. Mcginnity was a hapless dope who decided to sell sell and sell to pay his puppet master. It was a catastrophic decision.

Richardson was a spiv and a mercenary but he was not a fool. Mcginnity hardly can claim any moral high ground when you look at the murky background of his company and also he was a pasty and a fool.


McGinnity was not up to the job to try rescue the mess, as I have previously said yet, I haven't seen anyone giving him higher moral ground he made big mistakes regarding CCFC but he was a self made millionaire hardly a fool

The thief Richardson started the rot
 

derbyskyblue

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If, if, if.

If he hadn't sold Robbie Keane, to pay top dollar back to Robinson and himself and all the others, we would have had a player to score the goals, and wouldn't have had to purchase Bellamy.
If he had sacked Strachan, we may have stayed up.
IF he hadn't invested shit loads of cash on utter shit like Colin Hendry, we may have been able to bolster the squad when we were in trouble, but we didn't.

The list is endless. I wont even start on Fisher, they are both utter pricks.
If we had signed hartson a few weeks earlier we would have stayed up.....
 

Sky Blue Kid

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The main damage was not getting promoted back at the first attempt. Clubs who didn't all ended up floundering.

The debts at the club in terms of bank financing were not huge and the point is all debts could have been eradicated at a stroke with zero impact on the club. Richardson I believe was a strong character and would have put the club before the other creditor. Mcginnity was a hapless dope who decided to sell sell and sell to pay his puppet master. It was a catastrophic decision.

Richardson was a spiv and a mercenary but he was not a fool. Mcginnity hardly can claim any moral high ground when you look at the murky background of his company and also he was a pasty and a fool.

Cornish or Corned Beef?
 

Grendel

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Hindsights a wonderful thing but from current knowledge Tim Fisher, every time!

Yes clearly you are right I take it back. Today's standard of football, level of opposition and general interest in the club is so much better now.
 

Bumberclart

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I seem to remember McGinnity threatening to take a certain forum owner to court for comments made on line accusing him of being a rogue. Quality bloke!
Wouldn't it be lovely to discover exactly who is to blame for what, one day.
 

Grendel

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Well you can believe what you want that appears to be how you make up your 'facts'
Ground was sold and the Princely sum was paid back in rent over 5 years, Can't imagine why anyone would have wanted to remove him

Richardson got it for free via his



McGinnity was not up to the job to try rescue the mess, as I have previously said yet, I haven't seen anyone giving him higher moral ground he made big mistakes regarding CCFC but he was a self made millionaire hardly a fool

The thief Richardson started the rot

A self made millionaire - with a lot of help from his friends

http://www.playthegame.org/news/new...wes-its-success-to-the-hillsborough-disaster/
 

covhead1

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Hmmmm i hated richardson and i hate fisher but which one do i hate the most.?
...
Theres only one way to find out....

FIGHT!!!!!!!###''''
 

chiefdave

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Funnily enough I was speaking to someone earlier in the week who used to do some work for Richardson (a non City fan, not even a football fan) and he didn't have a bad word to say about him.

Choosing between Fisher and Richardson isn't much of a choice but I suppose you have to go with Richardson. Personally I was totally oblivious to the financial side of football then so didn't even think about how the hell we were paying for the players we had so got to watch good players in blissful ignorance.
 

Astute

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The actual debt to the co operative bank was not huge at all and an administration order would have made it all go away.

So the debt would have gone away.

We didn't own our own ground due to mcginnity not Richardson.
How about some facts from you for once?

Who sold HR when having a dream about retracting roofs and so much in debt we couldn't raise anything to buy a new ground?

How much was this debt that you say would have just gone away?

You previously brought up an article where he said he had bought the land that the Ricoh was built on. It was not bought by him or CCFC. But you still believed everything he said. Everyone has been firefighting since he was removed. Yet you blame them all but SISU. I agree that SISU are not to blame for what went before them. They took on a basket case.

Richardson's mismanagement started it all off. Before him we had a top flight club. It was all I ever knew. Since him it has been nothing but shit. Yet you want to blame others.
 

shmmeee

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Funnily enough I was speaking to someone earlier in the week who used to do some work for Richardson (a non City fan, not even a football fan) and he didn't have a bad word to say about him.

Choosing between Fisher and Richardson isn't much of a choice but I suppose you have to go with Richardson. Personally I was totally oblivious to the financial side of football then so didn't even think about how the hell we were paying for the players we had so got to watch good players in blissful ignorance.

People I know who met him all said he was a nice guy out of his depth.

There's an awful lot of projection that goes on with public figures and people always assuming evil intentions, when in fact these positions are hard and inevitably people fuck up. I have no doubts Richardson had the best of intentions at City, but not the ability to see them through.
 

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