Sky Blue Kid
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Because the owners own their own grounds which in the end is a massive bargaining tool.
SISU/Otium (15 Viewers)
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Nick
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Why do you keep calling people little? Are you a giant or something?
Sky Blue Kid
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Fuck!!! Ya beat me to it Tony
Nick
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No, they sell a player or cut budgets to make up the shortfall.
Grendel
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Oh dear - you are struggling. What about those pro sisu posters who only ever appear when court cases etc are on? Thought of any yet?
They will anyway. The shortfall is in the declining budget and assets. It's what they have done for 5 successive years !
skybluetony176
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5'11" as you're asking.
Nick
Administrator
Small then, ironic.
skybluetony176
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How's that working out? Is it stopping them having dip their hands in their own pockets? Didn't think so.
Grendel
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Why are you answering your own question?
As you are the only one who agrees with your own answer?
Nick
Administrator
As in the loan they will just sell players or cut budgets to pay back?
If they aren't paying it back, I guess they are heroes for keeping the club afloat and investing
skybluetony176
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OK Hightower.
Nick
Administrator
It's ok, little man syndrome is quite common I think. There are people you can speak to about it.
skybluetony176
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As in the loan they will just sell players or cut budgets to pay back?
If they aren't paying it back, I guess they are heroes for keeping the club afloat and investing
Or dumb for overseeing a situation that can only lead to a continual spiralling down of the club. They really have to go don't they?
torchomatic
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It's not up to the owners it is up to the club, Fisher and Venus, they run the club not SISU. As you say been going on for many years, before SISU too.
dongonzalos
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How do you know if they have failed to have any impact on their owners.
Also are they outright doing NOMP.
Or is it a bit like us if she continually get shafted by your owners eventually you stop taking it.
I think more people are not going because of the way the club is run, the performances on the pitch, really is very bad value for money, without any clear future direction.
As oppose to they realise and think it is the quickest way to get our owners to move on.
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Grendel
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No one is going to do outright nopm - that is an impossible scenario - Blackburn and Blackpool have had targeted protests and revenue reductions but they haven't budged. Bad publicity makes me laugh as well. Oystens are far more visible than sisu but remain as fixed to the club as ever.
Funnily enough Ian Holloway was interviews about both clubs and he said owners, especially such as the Venkys, will never be impacted - they are distant and removed and will just carry on regardless.
Nick
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You are getting a bit like the ranters Tony, you used to put decent points across, now you just get silly.
1. It is more than obvious people don't support SISU, they support CCFC
2. It is quite obvious they are different, most people can distinguish this
3. It is also obvious that it will be less money in = less money out, or selling more players to balance the books
4. Football clubs don't only have weekly player wages + transfer fees to pay out, people seem to think that's the only outgoing. There will be hundreds of thousands in NI and stuff like that and plenty of other things that don't get thought of.
Grendel
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Spot on!
torchomatic
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Absolutely.
skybluebeduff
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Budget cuts e.c.t, what about Northampton move? The fans have had to continually amend with their own cash the mistake that SISU made by moving us there? Is that a fair assumption that our budgets have been reduced ever since SISU's mistake?
dongonzalos
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Ms Seppala said she was not personally involved with Sisu Capital’s purchase of the football club in 2007. She said: “People did the due diligence and for all intents and purposes we took calculated risks.
“What I can say definitively is that since I’ve become involved in the last two years I have not regretted any of the decisions that we’ve made.
“I believe this is the right position for us to be in, given all the circumstances we were dealt.
“Would I have preferred to stay at the Ricoh? Of course. Would I have preferred to reach a deal with the council? Of course. That’s why we agreed to the heads of terms (for the Higgs share last year). But for whatever reason they patently refused to authorise that purchase.
“We have made decisions which we believe are emphatically the right decisions and we’re in the right place. We’re taking the club in the right direction bar the emotional angst its given to fans. Emotions are not lost on us. I feel very bad. Football is like a religion.
“The long term viability of the club depends on us doing this. If the status quo continued, Coventry City would not be here in a year or two.”
Ms Seppala said there was “no time constraint” on Sisu/Otium remaining at Coventry City, adding: “Nothing would please me more than to see us promoted this year or next and to build a football model that sustains a culture and a vision for the long term.
“There is a meshing of values and vision between the business side and the football side.
“The most successful strategy is to create an enduring legacy of success. When I met Steven Pressley for the first time and we talked about his vision, the fact is that his vision permeates and is endemic to the culture of the organisation.
“It’s a culture that could survive the manager. It’s the Swansea City model of endurance - a very long-term approach. That culture isn’t created overnight.
“Previously, Steven Pressley has had to take a club from the grassroots. The youth academy model we are building is really important.
“Coventry City fans think it is a big club. It is a big club, but when you’re not the Real Madrids or Manchester Uniteds of this world, there is no propensity to over-pay for mediocre players. We have to de-risk with a strong academy model.
“It’s setting up the business for the long term. The club hasn’t had that luxury for 12 years. It hasn’t been able to think beyond month by month. The football club has been battling the rent and revenue demons for 12 years.
“For the first time in 12 years there is enormous potential for real value creation. We have a clean slate. It’s a unique opportunity. It’s not been without a lot of pain, but I am very excited. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing something grow and succeed.”
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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If no one goes to the games there will be no income. Sisu will not be prepared to fund the losses. Marginal boycott yes, they will cut even more and the downard spiral will continue. Full boycott, they're forced to leave one way or another. No amount of cutting will be sufficient enough to tread water.
The problem with the latter is that I don't believe enough of our fans have the courage to collectively go through with it. However, I do think that idea has a chance of working.
The problem with the latter is that I don't believe enough of our fans have the courage to collectively go through with it. However, I do think that idea has a chance of working.
skybluebeduff
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Well.... that went to shit for her didn't it...
Nick
Administrator
Is it really about "courage"? Are we going to start awarding Boycotters war medals for it?
dongonzalos
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skybluebeduff
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Instead should we encourage people and children to watch a slow and painful death, whilst paying for it?
dongonzalos
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Pressley was another bad manager we employed apparently. Not sure how we keep getting it wrong on the manager front?
Nick
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Do what you want, just don't moan about players being sold or budgets being cut or claiming "courage".
skybluebeduff
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If Joy can't even get the board members right considering how many we've had, then it's no surprise with the managers they've chose too
skybluebeduff
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I have a right to vent what I like whether you like it or not
Grendel
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It's going to a football match not paying to view animal torture
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I should have worded it differently, apologies.
What I meant was that as fans, whatever we do needs to be done together. However whatever is done is greatly criticised every single time, and it means that no plan of action to get rid of the owners can ever materialise. That's fine if there are better suggestions we can improve, but there never are.
Personally my idea would have been to fill the stadium (Leeds could have been a perfect opportunity), and then follow it up with literally no one going to the next game.
Arguing and bickering isn't getting us anywhere and the chances of us losing our club is a reality if as fans we collectively don't act. I'm going to start a new thread on ideas to get the owners out, and people can pitch their suggestions and positively improve others if they want. We have a fan base which can have a voice heard if it's used properly, I suggest we try and do that before it's too late.
Grendel
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Have done for years it's why we turnover managers quickly.
Sisu have been too loyal compared to past owners.
skybluebeduff
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You class the football this year as 'football'? Are you sure you even attend games? Torture is the key word for fans who are attending games this season.