I'm sorry if I assumed you might actually understand the basics of commercialism.
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I'm sorry if I assumed you might actually understand the basics of commercialism.
Liquid Gold
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Even though you've completely disregarded both mine and Nick's points I'll indulge you. We are currently hearing rumours from inside the club concerning either a takeover or substantial investment yet you think the best answer is to shut the club down and start afresh. Why don't you start a new club now?
The Reverend Skyblue
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Yes the shares in Otium ,a loss making company with no assets are worth exactly £0
Now tell us how season ticket money raises the value of the company ?
Covman and keresley show how season ticket money is backing Otium, look through the miserable accounts nothing goes to them. We couldn't add value to anything at the moment
Admit it you haven't a scooby do what the fuck you are on about.
Now tell us how season ticket money raises the value of the company ?
Covman and keresley show how season ticket money is backing Otium, look through the miserable accounts nothing goes to them. We couldn't add value to anything at the moment
Admit it you haven't a scooby do what the fuck you are on about.
KersleyDigs
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If we lose and people don't go it weakens SISU's position and increases the likelihood that they will leave. While a few blindly keep going, it gives them something to cling too. Don't moan about the owners then financially support their plight, that is mental....
Nick
Administrator
Surely as an expert, you wouldn't compare CCFC to Microsoft but another football team that could be doing well financially?
Are you really trying to patronise when you are failing to backup something you have said, while calling others mugs for not believing it?
Nick
Administrator
How are people "blindly" going? Covman has just confirmed that tickets are going to the running of CCFC.
What you are saying is that we should kill CCFC off to try and spite SISU if I am following correctly?
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
Errr No!!
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
Some of the people saying that are doing it for back slaps I'm sure, I bet half of them never even went anyway.
KersleyDigs
Well-Known Member
What would you rather Nick? New, transparent, ambitious owners now, but in the conference/L2 or to be a lower L1 team under SISU for another 3-4 seasons?
Nick
Administrator
I honestly think it is seen as "cool" now.
Nick
Administrator
So when you are saying people are "blind", you can completely see that if nobody goes now the worst that will happen is conference or league 2?
I'd personally prefer CCFC to be playing at the highest level, but if we went to the conference and we were still CCFC I'd still go.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
we had 28k the season before last at the Ricoh but when it comes to signing a petition, literally a few clicks on a computer, only 19k can be bothered.
Nick
Administrator
You said it goes towards paying CCFC's bills didn't you?
It makes perfect sense, are you going to explain any of your statements?
1. Why are SISU going to go the minute they need to put money in?
2. How is my ticket money going to SISU (none of the shite about share value etc).
You are saying others are mugs, but your points backing up why others are mugs and you aren't are flawed.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
I'll answer this, I'd prefer league 2 or conference with some ambitious owners, no fucker wants sisu here. What you fail to grasp is that if the club (not sisu) is starved of revenue it is likely not to be bought but go out of business, that doesn't mean build up, that means a brand new club. You can start a brand new club now if you like as thats all it will be, it will have no connection whatsoever to ccfc, none of this "it will still have us and our memories so it's basically the same" The club will have officially died and you can't supplant your feelings as fact. Go and support Cov Utd and imagine they won the cup in '87 if you like, it's the same difference.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
If we started again it would be years, if ever, before we were at conference or L2 level.
Houchens Head
Fairly well known member from Malvern
Today, I saw that my ironing board cover was wrinkled.
I laughed at the irony.
Then I laughed again because irony has the word iron in it.
Nick
Administrator
The ambition would be to one day be a lower L1 team, the one thing people are angry about us being now.
I hate to break it to you Nick but there is no 'if' about it. We ARE heading to the conference. Your way we will probably get their in 4 years. Enjoy it won't you.
Don't forget to claim your OT for tonight Nick. It's been a late one.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
If we we're promoted last season I bet you'd have been well pissed off
Nick
Administrator
Oh there's a shock, you have been asked about something you quite confidently call other people mugs for not seeing and failed to back it up so reverted down that route. I never saw that coming. It seems to be the main argument when getting asked anything about it.
"How does my ticket money go to SISU and not CCFC"
"You must be happy with SISU then, you must work for them, stop defending SISU"
I guess you aren't going to back up anything you have said, even though you have contradicted yourself?
All you have done is show that you you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. You have given a couple of points like SISU will go when they need to put money in and that sisu get the ticket money. You are telling people they are mugs because of things you can't backup and don't seem to know about.
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Oh there's a shock, you have been asked about something you quite confidently call other people mugs for not seeing and failed to back it up so reverted down that route. I never saw that coming. It seems to be the main argument when getting asked anything about it.
"How does my ticket money go to SISU and not CCFC"
"You must be happy with SISU then, you must work for them, stop defending SISU"
I guess you aren't going to back up anything you have said, even though you have contradicted yourself?
All you have done is show that you you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. You have given a couple of points like SISU will go when they need to put money in and that sisu get the ticket money. You are telling people they are mugs because of things you can't backup and don't seem to know about.
Interesting conclusion you came up with there. It's a shame it wasn't a little more accurate. Good effort though! Night night.
Nick
Administrator
What isn't accurate?
You are basic your argument in this thread about ticket money going to SISU and SISU going the minute they need to use their own cash. You have also contradicted yourself by saying that ticket money goes into running CCFC.
It is just a shame that people actually listen to shit like that and take it as fact. I'd suggest maybe sticking to places where people will hang off your every word because you say #sisuout at the end, it doesn't look as if you like being questioned on the things you are saying.
It really is worrying that people shouting for Boycotts and the whole "blind" or "mugs" for going don't seem to have a clue about a lot of the stuff that comes out of their mouthes. What is even more worrying is that you have tried to make out that others are thick for asking you a question about it.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
Go on, answer one question with fact and not supposition, I dare you
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Your way is to start in the 9th tier of the ladder. It took Wimbledon how long to get back to where we are now
Not really thinking this one through are we?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
We'd be in the 9th tier playing Sphinx. Yeah loads of ambitious owners will be looking at us there.
Nick
Administrator
None of it really has been thought through, it was probably seen in a dodgy photoshopped image on social media so taken as fact.
I think it's telling that not a single person seems to explain how ticket money is going to SISU and not CCFC. If they did prove that then they should let the Telegraph know as I am sure it would boost boycott numbers so they can get some more likes every week when the attendances are announced.
If people behind the boycott did some digging and can actually prove ticket money is going to sisu and not CCFC then it would massively help their cause. The fact the people pushing it cry about defending SISU when asked "how" sort of says how much they can backup what they are saying.
Sadly, the same people then get airtime pushing their views and making statements in local media without actually being asked anything about them, so then people read it as fact.
So we end up with people telling others they are mugs, when in fact they are the ones repeating something that PSB group said that they can't backup or expand upon. Laughable really.
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Captain Dart
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Or anything actually.
Nick
Administrator
Really? So what have I misunderstood then? The bit where he says the ticket money goes to SISU or the bit where he says it goes into paying the club's bills?
Once again, Captain Dart comes flying into the rescue without having a clue what he is on about.
Maybe you can point out how my ticket money goes to SISU and not to CCFC?
The Reverend Skyblue
Well-Known Member
Give up Nick, your wasting your time.
They come on and spout baseless shit but can't back up one sentence they say and when asked to do so resort to abuse.
We all hate SISU but they are not taking season ticket money out the club, if they did we would have died many seasons ago.
They come on and spout baseless shit but can't back up one sentence they say and when asked to do so resort to abuse.
We all hate SISU but they are not taking season ticket money out the club, if they did we would have died many seasons ago.
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Its called supporting.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Doubt he even knows what ccfc is
With every leg that SISU pull off the spider, I can start to identify with that position. Of course it doesn't sit well after all these years and it's not going to be popular on a City forum but have a chat around the catchment area and you will find many many people who feel that the hedge fund that taken the club that we loved away altogether and replaced it with some franchise type skeleton.
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Franchise type skeleton? We talking about Red Bull again? Why are we a franchise?
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
You're equating supporting your team with buying fruit and veg?!!
What did you do on Saturdays before sky got you into football?