Fisher Lost The Plot (13 Viewers)

[Nick]

CONVERSATION WITH NICK.

Wheelfass: Hello Nick. How was your Christmas?

Nick: You tell me how your Christmas was and how you even knew that it was Christmas? You haven't even explained whether you even support Christmas or not have you?

Wheelfass: I was only enquiring if you had.............

Nick: Anyway, I don't like your Trilby!!

Have you got those figures and details about the academy that I have "plucked out of mid air" yet?

Somebody else completely missing the point.

 

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[bawtryneal]

I have - with respect whenever questions are posed to Tony he goes on absurd rants which have zero to do with the thread in question.
Why would I run away from Tony other than the fact he is one of the two lunatic elements on this forum - you being the other.
Here's a clue - football clubs can and do survive on turnover of less than a million if they want to.

Whilst that of course is true, it is not true of EFL clubs above the conference division.

 

[Astute]

So it means people can keep telling me my ticket money is going to SISU when they have no idea?

If my ticket money goes to SISU, who then pays the running costs of the club?

Why is it so controversial to ask somebody about statements they keep making? If I kept making them and telling others then I would expect to be asked about it, or at least how I came to that conclusion surely?

Of course the money goes to SISU. They use it and more to run our club. Although now it seems that they are more interested in our club being at least cash neutral than what happens to our club.

 

[Nick]

Of course the money goes to SISU. They use it and more to run our club. Although now it seems that they are more interested in our club being at least cash neutral than what happens to our club.

So my money goes to SISU and then back to CCFC to run it?

 

[bawtryneal]

OK, so how much does the academy cost the club then and how much does the PL put in? If I said it just to keep posts going and cause controversy.

The ads that are on here go towards paying for the server and any development costs I can't do and prediction league prizes.

So if we click on an ad does the money go to you or the development costs.
Oh, and by the way, prove it !!

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Because I was the one asking about the statements that keep getting made that nobody will explain.

I backed up the one about the academy costs.

.You didn't prove to me you didn't finger dogs either

People's logic really is baffling.

Wow! it's true... people do get personal when they're angry and can't cope logically...... And just to clear things up.. I finger the rolls that wrap around my "Dogs" on a regular basis.

 

[Captain Dart]

We won't have made a profit come the accounts, it was Fisher spin

OK, can you explain what the £2.8M administrative expenses in the 2015 accounts and £4.1M administrative expenses in the 2014 accounts paid for?
Don't you find it odd that Walsall have a similar turnover on half the crowds but much lower operating costs even though they pay to maintain their ground.
I don't know, the more I look at the numbers the less I think they reflect a true and accurate picture.
Even though I'm sure they're legal I think their lack of detail might hide 'something' that wouldn't go down well with the fans.

 

[Astute]

So my money goes to SISU and then back to CCFC to run it?

Yes. They own our club. Fisher is paid to be in charge of our club by SISU.

If CCFC made 3m would this belong to CCFC or SISU? Whichever way you put it the money would belong to SISU as they own CCFC.

OK. You spend money in a shop. The transaction makes a small profit. Who does the profit belong to? The shop or the person who owns the shop?

 

[Wheelfass]

CONVERSATION WITH NICK.

Wheelfass: Hello Nick. How was your Christmas?

Nick: You tell me how your Christmas was and how you even knew that it was Christmas? You haven't even explained whether you even support Christmas or not have you?

Wheelfass: I was only enquiring if you had.............

Nick: Have you got those figures and details about the Achademy that I "pulled out of mid air" yet?
And anyway I don't like your Trilby!!

 

[Otis]

Sorry, but this thread is embarrassing. He said, she said. 'Show us yours and I'll show our mine. No, I asked first. You show me yours, then me.'

Good grief get a grip lads!!

 

[ccfcway]

ironic this thread has "lost the plot" in the title.....

 

[bawtryneal]

Captain Dart
For admin costs read management costs/charges and interest on debt.

 

[Wheelfass]

Sorry, but this thread is embarrassing. He said, she said. 'Show us yours and I'll show our mine. No, I asked first. You show me yours, then me.'

Good grief get a grip lads!!

Back on topic.
I think Fisher has lost the plot.

 

[Nick]

So if we click on an ad does the money go to you or the development costs.
Oh, and by the way, proof it !!

It goes to me and then pays for development, prizes and server costs.

As I have said, if it was about clicks or posts I wouldn't be trying to make them higher by bickering on here myself. If anything my bickering probably puts people off sadly, but it is just my opinion and thoughts, nothing more or less.

 

[Nick]

Yes. They own our club. Fisher is paid to be in charge of our club by SISU.

If CCFC made 3m would this belong to CCFC or SISU? Whichever way you put it the money would belong to SISU as they own CCFC.

OK. You spend money in a shop. The transaction makes a small profit. Who does the profit belong to? The shop or the person who owns the shop?

Surely it depends on how it's setup whether its ltd companies or just a sole trader?

 

[Nick]

Wow! it's true... people do get personal when they're angry and can't cope logically...... And just to clear things up.. I finger the rolls that wrap around my "Dogs" on a regular basis.

It wasn't being personal, as i clearly don't think that or suggest you do. It was an example, sorry if you found it offensive. It wasn't actually serious or trying to imply you actually did.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

So my money goes to SISU and then back to CCFC to run it?

Are you really that naive to think all of your ST money is being ploughed back into CCFC?

 

[Nick]

Are you really that naive to think all of your ST money is being ploughed back into CCFC?

So does the money go from me to SISU and then a percent back to CCFC?

 

[Gosford Green]

Some of Nicks and the rest of our ticket money ends up at SISU, without a doubt.

Be it through admin/management charges and debt servicing as SISU are a creditor of the club some of your hard earned will end up with them.
Not sure why the obvious is so hard to see for Nick.

 

[bawtryneal]

It goes to me and then pays for development, prizes and server costs.

As I have said, if it was about clicks or posts I wouldn't be trying to make them higher by bickering on here myself. If anything my bickering probably puts people off sadly, but it is just my opinion and thoughts, nothing more or less.

I was joking Nick
I did put a smiley face on the end but for some reason it didn't show
And for the record, I think you do a fantastic job with SBT, so thank you

 

[Otis]

I was joking Nick
I did put a smiley face on the end but for some reason it didn't show
And for the record, I think you do a fantastic job with SBT, so thank you

I don't. I think he is crap, it's a rubbish site and he's an obnoxious toe rag.

 

[Nick]

I was joking Nick
I did put a smiley face on the end but for some reason it didn't show
And for the record, I think you do a fantastic job with SBT, so thank you

I am more than honest to say that the stuff I put probably does put people off because they don't agree. There is no agenda behind it than it being my opinions and own thoughts though!

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Have you got those figures and details about the academy that I have "plucked out of mid air" yet?

Somebody else completely missing the point.

But I thought anything written by Simon Gilbert or the CT was invalid!.... So in fact makes your figures invalid too.... Which they actually are because as I've already stated, Premier League funding to CCFC academy Cat2 is just under £500k pa.

 

[Otis]

Oops, forgot the smiley face.

 

[BobbyDazzler]

It goes to me and then pays for development, prizes and server costs.

As I have said, if it was about clicks or posts I wouldn't be trying to make them higher by bickering on here myself. If anything my bickering probably puts people off sadly, but it is just my opinion and thoughts, nothing more or less.

Well that's true at least.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

So does the money go from me to SISU and then a percent back to CCFC?

Does all of your ST money go to CCFC... AND STAY THERE?

 

[Nick]

But I thought anything written by Simon Gilbert or the CT was invalid!.... So in fact makes your figures invalid too.... Which they actually are because as I've already stated, Premier League funding to CCFC academy Cat2 is just under £500k pa.

I have also included other links, there are probably plenty more about.

 

[Nick]

Does all of your ST money go to CCFC... AND STAY THERE?

So is my money going to SISU and then some back to CCFC or going to CCFC and then being taken to SISU?

 

[bawtryneal]

I am more than honest to say that the stuff I put probably does put people off because they don't agree. There is no agenda behind it than it being my opinions and own thoughts though!

Always important to be able to air your own thoughts and ideas but I am afraid you have it wrong on this occasion.

 

[Nick]

Always important to be able to air your own thoughts and ideas but I am afraid you have it wrong on this occasion.

I am more than happy to always be corrected, I often am.

It just takes more than "show me im wrong" as an argument to back something up, especially when I put decent points across to show why they could be.

I'm asking to be shown how it works and how my ticket money goes to them, I am not sure I am wrong for wanting that am I?

 

[skybluetony176]

Oops, forgot the smiley face.

So you forgot to put a smiley face on your original statement but end on this post with a smiley face. Does this mean that you're only joking in this post meaning that you never intended to put a smiley face on your original statement meaning that you stand by your original statement 100%

 

[Gosford Green]

So is my money going to SISU and then some back to CCFC or going to CCFC and then being taken to SISU?

I would say the ticket money is payed to CCFC who then receive an invoice of SISU or associated company for management fees.

 

[Wheelfass]

I don't. I think he is crap, it's a rubbish site and he's an obnoxious toe rag.

Nooooooo, no no no no no...........yes.

 

[Nick]

So you forgot to put a smiley face on your original statement but end on this post with a smiley face. Does this mean that you're only joking in this post meaning that you never intended to put a smiley face on your original statement meaning that you stand by your original statement 100%

Who did you quote, I can't see it so it's probably some nutter I have on ignore?

 

[Nick]

I would say the ticket money is payed to CCFC who then receive an invoice of SISU or associated company for management fees.

Surely if they are making up invoices for silly money it is pretty much fraud? Ignore the other shouty stuff, surely this is the bit that would be more damaging than shouting at the football league about not buying players etc. That would do the real damage to SISU if somebody was digging away at that?