skybluetony176
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So do you believe that under the current status quo we'll retain more season ticket holders than we'll lose with or without league one survival?
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So do you believe that under the current status quo we'll retain more season ticket holders than we'll lose with or without league one survival?
chiefdave
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Leicester by any chance when the ground is full of visiting supporters? Not sure I'd be boasting about away fans filling the ground.
Nick
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Great atmosphere at the kids party in fairness.
I didn't take mine last game because of the protest, she isn't going to miss out again because of it, especially not it if it is a Saturday game with the JSB stuff.
covcity4life
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cant miss those felt tip pens!
Nick
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Are you jealous she is allowed to use them and isn't still on wax crayons? If you want I can ask her to give you a few lessons on typing too?
Grendel
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No I don't see where I have suggested that to be the case.
Grendel
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Of course children should attend games - they are the future.
Sky Blue Kid
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Hang on a minute Grenduffy You said it yourself that children were crying at the Sheff Utd game, yet think these same children should be a part of this toxicity among fans (Allegedly)
Nick
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Again, you completely miss the point.
Sky Blue Kid
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Skybluebeduff asks Grenduffy... "Answer me this, should children still attend games whilst SISU remain and the atmosphere is forever toxic because of them?"
And you think I've missed the point! Read the fooking post properly Nick ffs!
Nick
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I haven't missed the point. Children should still go to football, of course they should. Unless we shouldn't take them because of other fans?
Maybe people should think about whether they are going to scare and upset others around them before they do things?
stupot07
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First couple of seasons in a new stadium (an occasion). Every club has an increase in attendance's when they move to a new ground , it then started to drop off back to the Highfield road championshiop norm.Our gate average for 2005-2006 was 21.5k
for 2006-2007 was 20.5k
for 2007-2008 was 19.5k So it's not impossible to achieve these figures and higher once Shitsu fook off Otis
My brother in law didn't even support cov and he had got a season ticket for 3 seasons when we first moved in to the Ricoh. Never been back since.
Plus most away crowds were larger than average as people 'ticked off' a new ground off their list.
I'm not being pedantic but I don't think we can use them as a yardstick of potential, I'd say they were as much off thr back of an occasion as a one off game like thr JPT and Gillingham games.
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Sky Blue Kid
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By the time SISU were going into their second season as owners, people began to see what they were about and gates dropped because of lack of investment(Decent investment) Remortgaging Ryton, and selling Dann and Fox set alarm bells ringing stupot07 or did it take a little longer for you to realise?.... Btw, did you ever ask him why after 3 seasons of ever decreasing gates he stopped going? Maybe it was he could see what was going on that perhaps you didn't.
stupot07
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Thr gates were going down well before sisu started selling dann and fox, in fact gates didn't increase despite the new optimism and investment when sisu arrived.
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covcity4life
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lol any more caveats?
stupot07
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skybluetony176
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I was asking a question not making a statement. No need to get so defensive.
italiahorse
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This is why we need to get a long term deal.
Once we commit, options like seats, shops, offices, sponsorship, flags, changing rooms etc can come into the equation.
Can't really moan if we keep saying we are going elsewhere in 3 years time.
Otis
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It's a fair point. Not on the long term deal issue, but on that of our insistence we move away.
If we are absolutely determined to move away and have absolutely no intention of staying then we shouldn't moan for a single second about Wasps changing colours of the seats or removing CCFC logos or anything else they do to remove City stuff and promote their own club best they can.
If we say we are staying and then Wasps change everything then maybe we have a right to moan, but not if we are not staying.
stupot07
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Bollocks. Wasps won't and don't need to concede on any of those points, they have thr monopoly on stadiums and we have no bargaining chips, wasps also have a £4m black hole to fill, we never got any of the Ricoh sponsorship its is very unlikely we'll get any of thr new deal even if we committed for 10+ years.
We all know and accept we're stuck at the Ricoh for at least another 10 years but let at least be honest that wasps won't be thinking of us when they decide to change the seats, getting new stadium sponsors etc.
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italiahorse
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It's not for sale so why would they?
They will want a price far in excess of what its worth. Why would anybody pay that?
Sisu need to release now at cost and see if someone wants to give it a go.
If we are worth £3M with assets, golden share and goodwill thats the price they should ask for.
Until that happens we can't say there is no one out there.
italiahorse
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Thats what happens in Rugby. If there is a game on people come to watch if there team is not playing.
It's strangely not tribal.
italiahorse
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We will never know with the idiots at Sisu in charge.
It looks like Tim only needs a few fans swanning around him at matches and on the train home to make him believe it is bollocks.
italiahorse
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Pity the atmosphere in several parts of the ground is not suitable for kids.
italiahorse
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Like sing "Your support is fucking shit"
Or perhaps "Wankers wankers"
Or perhaps "Fuck off Tudgay you fucking c**t"
Or calling any Sheffield United fan, family, old or young leaving the ground "Fucking Wankers"
All very normal at our games, particularly away.
Sometimes you need to leave the party and the kids zone and taste reality.
stupot07
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italiahorse
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Sky Blue Kid
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Our gate average for 2005-2006 was 21.5k
for 2006-2007 was 20.5k
for 2007-2008 was 19.5k
Less than 2 thousand over nearly 4 years..... Yes they were leaving in their droves weren't they!
chiefdave
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So the only game that sells out is Leicester who just happen to be a few miles down the road and average well over 20K, substantially more than Wasps, but its not full because of Leicester fans just people who fancy watching a game.
Do you really believe this rubbish you come out with?
stupot07
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HR
02/03 - 14.2k
03/04 - 14.8k
04/05 - 16k
Ricoh
05/06 - 21.3k
06/07 - 20.3k
07/08 - 19.1k
08/09 - 17.4k
Sell fox and dann summer of 2009.
09/10 - 17.3k
10/11 - 16.3k
11/12 - 15.1k - relegation.
We lost 4k (c20%) before sisu changed their strategy and started to sell. Its quite clear numbers were starting to drop to pre Ricoh attendance's.
Not denying the shit football and selling players hasn't had an affect, it has, but there were other factors also in play.
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chiefdave
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That's where Ranson's plan was horribly wrong. He thought new owners coming in and investing in the team would lead to a rise in attendances but all those who were shouting they wouldn't go back until there was an ownership change didn't go back when there was. Attendances continued to drop and his plan was never going to work.
Pretty obvious that the point at which Dann and Fox were sold was when he couldn't balance the budget and SISU wouldn't give him more. That's really the point at which SISU should have walked. They could have got something back at that point.
italiahorse
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Its based on talking to people not bigotry.
GaryPendrysEyes
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Oh dear not the 3 wise monkeys Grendull, Nick and 'Labour' Torch acting the super fan martyr again. LMAO
I'm not sure those old boys spent years and 10000,'s of posts like you twats defending the owners who are destroying our club (and laughing about it), or attacking anyone that try to take them on.
Your hypocrisy is sickening.
I'm not sure those old boys spent years and 10000,'s of posts like you twats defending the owners who are destroying our club (and laughing about it), or attacking anyone that try to take them on.
Your hypocrisy is sickening.
Nick
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Super fan for taking a child to football, I never thought I'd see the day.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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.....We have lost people for good as long as SISU are in charge. That's why we won't get anywhere near 20,000 for a nothing event. I wish we could .To prove the support is still there before we lose people for good.
And yes, we have had big crowds before, but for big occasions and for when the ticket price has been really low.
We have never had 20,000 plus for a meaningless game against a non mouthwatering opposition at full price.
That is what would make this different and that is what would make this stand out.
It would also be very telling because there would be massive decrease in ST take-up, but then an incredible surge in sales for one meaningless game.
Shame people are dismissing this so readily and easily.
It would work and would bring press coverage. Why out of the blue have Coventry City suddenly got a nearly full house for a non glamorous league game!
Fill the stands with banners too and tshirts and posters.