shmmeee
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So because one poster once overrated a player we should sell everyone for any price?
What? Do you even logic?
Ben Stevenson - Brentford (2 Viewers)
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So because one poster once overrated a player we should sell everyone for any price?
What? Do you even logic?
shmmeee
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Not all gambles pay off. That's why they're gambles.
robbiekeane
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Bahaha pleaassseee give us another Lameiras
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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I'm still stunned only Brentford have shown interest!
torchomatic
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Really? I'm surprised anyone has. I know he's a good player but he has years in his development to go yet.
Chinny_Hill
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Just popped in to say "undisclosed"
keep lapping it up.
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clint van damme
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I agree, I'm not surprised there hasn't been a massive amount of interest but that's also why I think selling him at the moment is madness.
I real feel his value is going to increase over the next season or two.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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In this day and age where clubs stockpile players I am.
I almost expected another case of the Maddison transfer.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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This is what I don't get is the end for sisu approaching or am I being too hopeful!?
clint van damme
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if it is then I wonder what the timescale will be because I think his value will have gone up by the end of the season.
Of course he hasn't gone yet so it could all be speculation but I don't think anyone will be surprised if he does go.
Grendel
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No the point is we made a killing on a player worth nothing, so great business.
skybluebeduff
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Christie has done well.
Covstu
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Agree we need some bigger stronger centre halves but some decent wingers would be great
Great_Expectations
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It definitely seems too early in this career, both from a personal perspective and, from a club angle, a selling value.
Saying that, if he is going to go at this stage, he could do a lot worse than Dean Smith who has a great reputation for developing youngsters and is well liked for it.
I hope SISU don't cave and at least try to get the best deal they can. I appreciate we are a selling club, but it would make it an easier pill to swallow if we at least get good value for the player we are losing.
Equally the whole sarcasm around "mighty Brentford" is annoying, they are in a higher division than us with a larger budget. In a players (or agents) mind it is a progressive step.
Saying that, if he is going to go at this stage, he could do a lot worse than Dean Smith who has a great reputation for developing youngsters and is well liked for it.
I hope SISU don't cave and at least try to get the best deal they can. I appreciate we are a selling club, but it would make it an easier pill to swallow if we at least get good value for the player we are losing.
Equally the whole sarcasm around "mighty Brentford" is annoying, they are in a higher division than us with a larger budget. In a players (or agents) mind it is a progressive step.
dongonzalos
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Depends what you define as made it?
Cyrus isn't doing too bad for himself.
Ben Turner and Davenport didn't do too bad originally.
Maddison was signed by Norwich for the future so I wouldn't judge him just yet.
Who else moved on to bigger things who came out if our academy?
Mcsheffry did alright for himself as well?
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chiefdave
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So Wilson who made 55 appearances before leaving and Christie who made 119. Just adds to the argument that they are better off staying and getting games under their belt.
Edit: same again isn't it. The players who have gone n and made a career at Championship / PL level playing a decent amount of games (50+) before leaving.
Happy_Martian
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Didn't Chris Kirkland come from the academy ? He's still playing in and around the Championship
SlowerThanPlatt
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Norwich and Spurs also been watching Stevenson according to Simon Jones of the Mail:
Soon as the player hears from his agent that interest is being shown they are off, these are younger players that want the bright lights and money before thinking of developing a career. Agents are master manipulates and will fill the players heads with all sorts of promises of what is to come. They will talk to each other and get deals done that helps everyone get paid. Stevenson, Maddison and Harries will all tell you they want to stay and develop at the club but in reality the pull and money is too strong. The agent then does not care about a career path, he is worried about the next transfer or deal he can create and his clients next contract.
Agents take 20% of most players earnings so its a decent living and will have worked on these kids for a long time never mind the kids parents. Its sad most kids don't spend the time to develop at a club they have been at, but business dictates a different path for a lot of them. Just look at us we have seen more than a few go and earn great money and play at a higher level and for this reason alone, making it has already been accomplished.
Agents take 20% of most players earnings so its a decent living and will have worked on these kids for a long time never mind the kids parents. Its sad most kids don't spend the time to develop at a club they have been at, but business dictates a different path for a lot of them. Just look at us we have seen more than a few go and earn great money and play at a higher level and for this reason alone, making it has already been accomplished.
joemercersaces
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How annoying that someone who supported this club since 1969 in the top flight, saw European football once (would have been twice but for Heysel), saw us win the FA Cup, saw us signing Robbie Keane, Dion Dublin, Gary McAllister, Craig Bellamy and Mustapha Hadji, stood in crowds over 30,000 regularly, finds it annoying that we now get picked over by the mighty Brentford. I'll take note and try not to annoy you again.
fernandopartridge
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Yes but things change. Somebody who watched football in 1950 may have found Coventry City winning the cup in 1987 unbelievable.
The game doesn't stand still and while we're in decline Brentford are in the best spell of their history, aided by a wealthy backer of course.
Brylowes
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That's very true, it's still annoying though.
Gazolba
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There's really not much future for British players at all. Just look at the Premier League, hardly any British players. When the entire rest of the World can be poached for players, what chance do players from a tiny Island like ours have? I see Callum Wilson can hardly get a game now and has scored just 3 goals all season.
Brylowes
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He's been injured though hasn't he ?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Wilson has appeared in 17 out of 20 premier league matches this season. 15 of them have been starts.
He's also scored 6 goals.
So he plays on a regular basis and has twice the number of goals.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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No his post is just factually incorrect, he missed a couple of games, maybe through injury or suspension but no serious injury problems for him this season. That was last season
Paul O Donoghue
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Wilson notched his sixth of the season tonight..penalties most of them and he is struggling to be honest. Cut your teeth in lower leagues first before being sold on. Agents are destroying football to be honest. No real need for them. Players being sold like racehorses and greyhounds.
Astute
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Anyone watching us now will find it unbelievable.
Sisu don't want to get out of this league
Chippo Noel whelan huckerby etc etc
Sky Blue Kid
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And look where that has got us Martha!